VANDERBURGH COUNTY

REZONING BOARD

APRIL 19, 2005

The Vanderburgh County Rezoning Board met in session this 19^th day of April, 2005 at 5:00 p.m. in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Suzanne Crouch presiding.

President Crouch: Call to order Vanderburgh County Commissioners rezoning meeting April 19, 2005.

President Crouch: First we need a motion to approve rezoning minutes from last month.

Commissioner Musgrave: So moved.

Commissioner Nix: Second.

President Crouch: All in favor?

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Crouch: So ordered.

President Crouch: First reading, docket number 2005-20-PC, VC-6-2005, petitioner Haas Development, Inc. Do we have a motion to approve first reading?

Commissioner Musgrave: So moved.

Commissioner Nix: Second.

President Crouch: Is there anyone here to comment on this particular rezoning?

Commissioner Musgrave: That’s Haas Development, Inc.

President Crouch: All in favor?

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Crouch: So ordered. It has been approved for first reading.

President Crouch: Final reading, docket number 2005-7-PC, VC-3-2005, petitioner Pedcor Investments LLC.

Krista Lockyear: Good evening members of the Commission. My name is Krista Lockyear. I’m here on behalf of Pedcor Investments LLC. My clients are in various dispositions of transit. They were supposed to be here, and I don’t see them. So, I apologize. Hopefully, they will be here shortly, but I do believe that I can carry on without them. Pedcor is a developer of apartment facilities. They have 61 similar projects throughout six states. They are involved in th Evansville community through Fidelity Federal Bankcorp. They currently own and manage Vann Park Apartments, as well as Springview Apartments in Newburgh. Pedcor is interested in developing this parcel of property as an affordable housing apartment complex. The exact method of funding will utilize section 42 federal tax credits, which is a program under which the applicant receives credits that they can then enter into a partnership with a bank, a lending institution, or an investor that can utilize those credits. Under that program, approximately 89% of the units will be targeted to 60% of the median income, and the remainder will be market value. Pedcor has extensive experience in providing this type of facilities. Their apartments typically include amenities that are above and beyond what is commonly found in the affordable housing market. Some of those include large closet space, private storage areas, and a club house that has a pool, a meeting room, and playground facilities for the children of the complex. I want to stress that it is not low income. This will not be a section eight facility. It will simply take advantage of that federal housing program. We do know that there is a need for this type of housing in the area. While the east side of Evansville has experienced some growth in the executive level apartment complexes, there really has not been any targeted for the 60%, really the average worker income. The market studies that my client has obtained has indicated that the apartment complexes in this price range, that are well managed, have been running approximately 90% occupancy. So, they’re certainly convinced that there is a need in this area. That need clearly can be explained by the growth of the area. If you drive out to this intersection of Lynch Road and Green River, you will see Lynch Road, obviously, has opened up that connection, east-west, between 41 and I-164, Burkhardt Road has been expanding for the past several years,164 has brought growth of industry into this area. Green River Road, currently we’ve experienced expansion of the Schnuck’s plaza, as well as the current Black Buggy market, which is under construction at this time, that will include corporate headquarters, a furniture store, and additional retail space. It’s also my understanding that Cinergy Communications is building just east of the Black Buggy. That pretty much encompasses the intersection to the south of, on the southeast corner of Lynch and Green River, and is really kind of an example of what’s happening out here. As well as you can look at Oak Hill Road and Lynch. The commercial is kind of locating right at the intersection, and the need for residential facilities close to that is becoming increasingly obvious. This property is an ideal site for this development. If you will look at it, it is located about a quarter mile from the Lynch Road intersection, and in this area Green River Road will be expanded to a five lane thoroughfare, with a center turn lane. There is a Huck’s station that is located right there where the pointer is at this point. The comprehensive plan does show that that hub at the intersection will be commercial, and the outer lying areas residential and agricultural growth. With regard to site plan details, while it’s somewhat putting the cart before the horse to do definitive drainage plans before we get the zoning in place for the project, Morley and Associates, specifically Matt Wallace with Morley and Associates, has done preliminary investigations for all the plans. Hi, thank you. These are site plans. I’ll kind of walk you through here in a second. The drainage, Mr. Wallace with Morley has spoken with the County Surveyor, the property will have sufficient retention ponds to hold any additional run off rate, and will probably drain to the east. The method of drainage, I believe they will still work out, hopefully, won’t even need a direct drainage pipe. It can drain at a natural rate over a swale. There is so much retention on the property, we don’t expect much run off. With regard to water and sewer, they will need to be brought to the side, and, again, Mr. Wallace has been in contact with the Water and Sewer Utility to come up with options for both of those, and they are both quite feasible. Traffic, of course, can be easily addressed with the widening of Green River Road. We have planned the, both of these site plans that you see here in front of me have the entrance as far north as possible. It’s my understanding that has been done. In working with the County Engineer, in order to allow for the widening and a deceleration lane, which my clients will donate to the county for right-of-way, we have also put the property back off the road with sufficient distance to allow additional right-of-way acquisition and grants, if the county should need it. We don’t think in discussions with the County Engineer that there will be any more right-of-way necessary, but the land is there and available if it should be. I think the County Engineer has even discussed the timing of the project and the possibility that if it goes out for bid at the same time that the county widening project, we’ve indicated that we would work with the county, if it’s desirable for our County Engineer that the county would actually do the deceleration lane, and we would reimburse the county for it. We’re agreeable to that opportunity. Again, depending on timing and how the projects proceed. Every zoning, I believe, has some neighbors that may have some issues and concerns about a new business going in to a property. Fortunately, this site impacts very few neighbors. Reverend Engler of Word of His Grace Fellowship Church lives at the southeast corner, I’m sorry doesn’t live, the church is located at the southeast corner of the property. We have had discussions with him about tapping in to the utilities, and networking with the use of a daycare that the church is interested in creating for their parishioners. I think far and away the most affected by the property are the two residences that are in the middle on the south end of the site, that’s Mr. John Irwin and the Titzer family. I’ve spoken with Mr. Irwin several times, and he’s indicated the Titzer’s have the same concerns, I think primarily was drainage. Running through the center of this property is a 100 foot Sigeco easement, and it has gotten into somewhat of a ditch, and water appears to drain into that ditch and to the south on to Mr. Irwin’s, and across Mr. Irwin’s property. Our drainage plan will stop the drainage from proceeding in that direction. So, we can certainly help with that situation. We’ve also talked about, discussing with him the ability for him to tap in to the sewer and water that we would bring to the property. We’re not sure that that will be feasible, especially with the water. It’s probably more likely with sewer, but we were continuing discussions with him about that. Then finally Mr. Irwin was concerned about noise, about trash blowing from the apartment complex on to his property, and my client has agreed that they will construct a privacy fence to block the potential there. As it crosses his and his neighbors property. The one consideration that’s still out on that privacy fence, Vectren, of course, has rights to that 100 foot strip where their easement is, and I’ve been in contact with them, we will have to place a formal request with them to locate a fence across their easement. At first glance, hopefully, it won’t be a problem, from my discussions, but, again, that will have to go through their formal engineering process. This is kind of a new little twist, you wouldn’t have read about this in your packet. Commissioner Musgrave asked me to address the criminal activity that she was fearful about that had been going on at Vann Park Apartments, as my client does own and operate Vann Park as well. What we did, I looked up in the county records incident reports, and we’ve got, I got an education today, we’ve got two different things, we’ve got calls to 911 and we’ve got incident reports. The incident reports show back as far as three years, and over the past three year period, we had approximately 105 incident reports. That is very comparable with other apartment complexes in the area of similar size. We did research, Bradford Pointe, Greenbriar, Sugar Mill Creek, the Timbers, a variety of, I guess, markets, if you will, and incident reports are fairly consistent. There are a lot of runs at the area for things that don’t generate an incident. So, your 911 calls would be more than the incident reports themselves. In addition, I made a phone call to Jeff Vantlin, who is the enforcement liaison for this district, and Jeff Vantlin, of course he’s with EPD, wrote an e-mail to Tom Crowe, who is the president of Pedcor that I would like to pass out to you for the record. For the record, I will read that, at the bottom of the message addressed to Mr. Crowe:

“I am the Beat 3 Crime Prevention Officer for your area and have a good working relationship with the employees of Vann Park Apartments. I have found the employees to be cooperative and responsive to any needs our department may have, including evictions of residents, if needed. Management has also agreed to allow police officers to ban from the property any non-resident deemed as being a problem.”

In addition, Pedcor Management Corp. has adopted into their lease, and I will also pass out a copy of this for the record, the right to evict, if any police report or investigation of any one occupant or an apartment or guest, any illegal drug, controlled substance activity, illegal gambling, or prostitution. Any police report will be considered a default, and the lease agreement may be terminated immediately.

Commissioner Musgrave: Are you saying that this is the lease agreement that will be in effect for the apartments in question?

Krista Lockyear: I’ll address that in just a second. Commissioner Musgrave asked if this is the exact lease that will be in place for the apartments in question. I can’t say that that’s definitely true. It will probably be a work in process, and there may be changes made. This is the current lease for the Vann Park Apartments, and adopts that ordinance. Now, I did ask if that language will be included in the new lease, and the answer to that is yes. My clients are in the business of running a business here. Of course, they want to do anything they can to facilitate a nice community, a safe community in dealing with the law enforcement officers that happen to work at the project.

President Crouch: Question, how many evictions have they had at Vann Park in the course of that three year period where you had indicated they had 110 incident reports?

Krista Lockyear: Incident reports.

President Crouch: How many were actually evicted in that three year period?

Krista Lockyear: Let me ask the management officer to come up for the property.

Gary Wright: Good afternoon, my name is Gary Wright. I’m the area manager for Vann. I can’t give you an exact number of evictions in the last three years. I can give you a rough estimate of the last two years that I’ve been there, and for criminal activity, such as we’re talking about in the lease, my best guess would be somewhere around five or six. Most of the calls are domestic type issues, children, things of that nature, and not a lot of criminal activity have we had to evict for. So, I would say my best guess in the last two years would be five, six.

Commissioner Musgrave: I’m looking at the records of incidents reports, and you’ve had everything from animal complaints, to battery reports, to family disputes, fight in progress, quite a few of those, harassment reports, hit and run with property damage, quite a few, investigations by the law, motor vehicle property damage, narcotics use and sales, a great number of noise complaints, parking violations, prowlers, shots fired, a couple of those, stolen vehicle in progress, several stolen vehicle reports, a lot of subjects refusing to leave, a suicide there, suspicious circumstances, thefts, and you’ve only had five evictions?

Krista Lockyear: Let me, let me address some of, I think there are a lot of answers that can be presented to that question. First of all, Jeff Vantlin when I talked to him about this, he said, quite honestly, your clients may not know about a great majority of these incidents. They are not notified automatically, and I think there are privacy reasons, etcetera, and Jeff indicated that he would try and, I guess, on our behalf, notify us more often. There has been a request of greater cooperation between them. Of course, he’s also pretty busy, and has a lot of other apartment complexes he’s dealing with, but he has indicated that he will try and do that. He has, prior to this request coming up today, met with management and given his, I don’t know if it’s his cell phone number, but a number where he can be reached for the community newsletter that will be distributed to the tenants. So, his number will be going out to the tenants in the newsletter here in the next month or so that will give them his name and information and direct them that they can report crime directly to him. So, I think we’ve got some of we’re not sure every time that something happens on this property. I also had a discussion as to how crimes are reported, and with the new GIS system, if a call is put in to dispatch, and it is on Vann close to Vann Park Apartments, they actually use a common term, or common address, rather than an exact location. So, some of those incidents could be merely location, and we are next to Vann Park itself, so, if someone would be in the area, it comes in to dispatch on that location. They may show it as Vann Park Apartments when it is not in fact a tenant, but someone in the area or general vicinity. In fact, my clients have indicated they have a request pending to close Vann Avenue at the end of their property to stop some trafficking coming from the park on to the apartment complex. That, my understanding is that there is a fire hydrant that has to be moved out of that right-of-way in order to close Vann Avenue, and that the city has indicated and the Fire Department has indicated that they will work towards that. I think it’s a financing issue to move that and find additional right-of-way, but it’s something that we are aware of with that proximity to the park. I’m not throwing any of these up as an absolute answer, but I think a lot of things work in conjunction. In addition, I go back to the incident reports, with 105 in the past three years, and I don’t, of course, have eviction numbers from the other apartments, but you look at these apartment complexes and it’s just not out of line in the numbers. Runs happen, crime happens, in some areas of town more than others. I think the important thing is what is our management doing to deal with it? As I’ve indicated, they have previously talked to Jeff, got his number, got it into their newsletter, they have in the past worked with EPD. Jeff indicated that there was an incident a year or two ago that they had actually discussed with the EPD problems they were having with a tenant, EPD had requested that they do not evict because of some information they were obtaining, and he was very complimentary as to the management working closely with EPD to wait until that information was utilized, I suppose, before evicting. So, I think the overall concern is what are we doing, and the management is definitely committed to addressing these problems, to the extent that the number of incidents brings to light a problem that we weren’t aware of, we’ll certainly be on top of it in the future. This is a further commitment regarding the crime at the property. Tom Crowe, president of Pedcor did tell me today that I was at liberty to indicate if there is a problem at the apartment complex that they are managing, be it Vann Park, be it the apartment complexes in the future they may develop, they will commit to having an on guard security officer at all times at the apartment complex. Again, their overriding goal is to have a safe and secure environment for their tenants.

Commissioner Musgrave: Are they committing to day to have one at Vann Park now?

Krista Lockyear: They have not been advised that that’s really a necessary problem, but I will tell you that we can get with Jeff Vantlin and see if that is something that he feels would help EPD and certainly do that.

Commissioner Musgrave: Is Jeff Vantlin the community police officer for that area?

Krista Lockyear: Yes.

Commissioner Musgrave: Is he the new community police officer for that area?

Krista Lockyear: I don’t know how long he has been there.

Commissioner Musgrave: I think he is.

Krista Lockyear: He did indicate....he would be happy for you to give him a call and pose any questions you may have.

Commissioner Musgrave: Was he aware that this e-mail would be entered into public record today?

Krista Lockyear: Yes he was. He actually sent that specifically for that purpose. He was, I think he felt very positive towards the management at Vann Park, and indicated that I could so express to you in public meeting and on the record.

Commissioner Musgrave: I also sent to you the copies of the minutes of a hearing that took place in this room last year of a neighbor requesting tax relief for her two rental properties that are near Vann Park Apartments. Her suggestion throughout this was the crime associated with the apartment complex was devaluing her property, and interfering with her ability to attract renters to these two units that she owns. Is there any response to that?

Krista Lockyear: I’m sorry, I didn’t receive that information.

Commissioner Musgrave: Oh? It was with the other two that I sent to you.

Krista Lockyear: Did you send anything directly to me?

Commissioner Musgrave: Yes, I did. I sent you an e-mail around noon, I called you and you were in a meeting, and I let your staff know that I was sending you this e-mail.

Krista Lockyear: Okay, the e-mail did not come through, and I apologize for that.

Commissioner Musgrave: Let me just read a little bit from, this is Arlene Wolf’s testimony last year, and I can get that exact date for you;

“In the past few years there has been a public housing development catty corner to where my house is at Vann and Pollack Avenues. There has been higher crime in that area. I lost the renter at 3020 Pollack because one morning, this was last summer, he put his, or, the mother put the little girl outside in the backyard to play or something, and there was a man lying drunk in the yard. This is not a single incident. If you check the paper on Saturday, they have that map of the crimes in Evansville, and that complex is high crime. There’s no other way I can put that. There are a lot of robberies, prostitution, drugs being sold, meth labs. It’s not unusual to see the fire trucks down there a lot. This is, but the, when the man appraised my property he put average neighborhood, it’s not, it’s starting to deteriorate badly.”

Then there’s some other information. Then she says:

“The renter of my other place, which is just three houses down from this, one morning she went out to get in her car and somebody was asleep in the back seat of her car, even though her car was locked. I don’t know how he got it in. I don’t want to dwell on this, I’m saying I can’t get, I can’t keep raising property, I mean raising my rent to attract quality people down there when we have drunks lying in the street and a steady stream of people walking up and down the street at night, and you know burglaries are an issue.”

This is the sort of activity that’s taking place around the other apartment complex that your clients own. It is an issue. You say that they’re not aware of the continuing incident reports or the actual arrests that have been made out of there. How can you assure me that my vote to rezone this will not bring this similar activity to North Green River Road?

Krista Lockyear: Again, I can add the commitment that my client indicated that they will, if they have problems, and we will have to go back and investigate. I mean, I understand that one person may have concerns, and that we do have a large number of incidents. Any apartment complex seems to have a large number of incidents, and I did not have time today to pull subdivision reports, but we have, unfortunately, meth labs every where in the community, not just in apartment complexes. I think we have to take a step back, and with the information you’ve given us do some further investigation to find out if Vann Park is above and beyond what is happening anywhere else. Irregardless of whether it is, we do have a commitment to obtain a private security guard at the property, as well as continued work with the EPD, and it would be the Sheriff’s Department I believe in this case, to do what we can to prevent it. Without that cooperation between law enforcement and our management, there’s probably not much we can do. But, now that you have brought this to our attention, I think we will have much greater involvement in Jeff Vantlin’s life, I’m not sure that he’s excited about that or not. He was very helpful, as I’d indicated, I know he’s busy and has a lot of apartment complexes, but this has brought to light that perhaps there’s more of a problem than what our clients are aware of. We do have the eviction provision in the lease for criminal activity, and will continue to enforce that. That provision will be in the lease for the county, and my clients have committed that, again, their overriding goal is to have a productive, safe environment. They want to rent this property to other tenants. This is not low income, it’s median income. They have market rate properties as well. They can’t just skate by on allowing this criminal activity to continue.

Commissioner Musgrave: Why do we need to rezone this? Is there not other land available where this project could take place that’s already that zoning?

Krista Lockyear: Not, to my knowledge, not this close to the major arteries that make this project adaptable and appropriate for this land use. If I can, there are five statutory criteria for a zoning consideration. One of them is the comprehensive plan, and this comprehensive plan does call for this area to be residential and agricultural in development. The R-4 zoning that we’ve requested is considered in the zoning code to be a residential use. The current conditions and structures in the area, as I’d indicated the commercial growth is happening here, and this is an ideal site that will not impede on a heavily developed residential neighborhood. There are few residences that it will impact, and we have worked with them, and I believe satisfied their concerns. County Engineer has indicated that it’s not going to be a problem for traffic concerns. Obviously, unfortunately, that’s a big issue anywhere we turn, how do we get tenants into and out of this apartment complex? Most desirable use for the land, again, Vanderburgh County is putting this infrastructure in place to be utilized, and the apartment facility is a good use for this property. Conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction, again, we’re not locating apartment complexes in an area that is not intended for residential use. It certainly is. Responsible growth and development, which, again, I kind of, all of these fall back upon each other, but the fact that the county is investing infrastructure out here in the area to be used, my client will dedicate the right-of-way and the deceleration lanes needed for traffic, and servicing the needs of this area for housing.

Commissioner Musgrave: My last question is, what sort of need analysis have you done that supports your assertion that this land should be rezoned for this type of apartment complex?

Krista Lockyear: My clients have done a private market analysis, which does indicate that the need is in this area. Again, it’s a–

Commissioner Musgrave: Do they have this document for my review?

Cyndi Gianneschi: It’s an internal document that we have. We had an....I’m sorry, my name is Cyndi Gianneschi, Vice President of Development for Pedcor. We had an independent market study done as well for our, back up of our opinion about the market, and it was indicated that on average the market for apartments market or tax credit, which includes Arbors of Eastland, property like that, and Vann Park is 92% occupied, which is a good occupancy. For the demographics that we would be drawing, which is 60% of the median income, it indicated that we would only need six to eleven percent of the population that fell within that income bracket for a five mile radius. That’s not a very big radius. So, our independent study indicated that there was a demand and a need for this housing, especially with all the service oriented development that is going to need somewhere to live.

President Crouch: Question. What is the rent going to be at this apartment complex?

Cyndi Gianneschi: One bedrooms start around $300, on up to four bedrooms which will be close to $850 a month.

President Crouch: How does that compare to Vann Park?

Cyndi Gianneschi: It’s a totally different product.

President Crouch: I mean cost wise. The cost per month for one bedroom versus for–

Cyndi Gianneschi: For rent?

President Crouch: Yes, uh-huh.

Cyndi Gianneschi: Gary, what are your rents today?

Gary Wright: $415 to, $415 starting to $455.

Cyndi Gianneschi: $415 to $455.

President Crouch: Is that for one bedroom or two bedroom?

Gary Wright: That’s one bedroom.

Unidentified: (Inaudible) starts at $475 up to $555.

Cyndi Gianneschi: $475 to $555 for two bedroom

Commissioner Nix: How long have you owned Vann Park?

Cyndi Gianneschi: We developed it with an affiliated group back in ‘93.

Commissioner Nix: Okay.

Cyndi Gianneschi: We built it, we’ve had it the whole time.

Commissioner Nix: So, you’ve had it since it’s been built then?

Cyndi Gianneschi: Yes.

Commissioner Nix: Okay.

Cyndi Gianneschi: Vann Park’s units are, they’ve only got one and two bedroom units. They’re smaller units, the two bedroom I don’t believe has two baths.

Unidentified: One bath (Inaudible).

Cyndi Gianneschi: They have one three bedroom which is a house they converted, I believe. So, the new development is going to have larger units to accommodate larger space requirements of residents, and to compete with the other market rate developments on Virginia Avenue at a more affordable price.

President Crouch: Did I hear you correctly, this apartment complex, a one bedroom would rent for about $300,and at Vann a one bedroom rents for $415?

Cyndi Gianneschi: We, this was another question that Commissioner Musgrave had was what kind of financing would be applying for? It would be tax credit section 42, and the rents would be set at 30, 40, 60% of median income, with 60% median earners able to rent those units. So, that’s why our rents are lower than Vann Park.

Commissioner Nix: And you don’t have that arrangement at Vann Park, is that correct?

Commissioner Musgrave: They have section 42 financing at Vann Park.

Cyndi Gianneschi: Correct, but they went through a different application program back in the ‘90's.

Commissioner Nix: Right.

President Crouch: Do you know what the Timbers and some comparable complexes on Green River Road run for?

Cyndi Gianneschi: Both the Timbers and Sugar–

Commissioner Musgrave: Mill Creek.

Cyndi Gianneschi: Mill, I keep trying to call it Sugar Creek, their one bedrooms are about $525, I believe to $575, on up to three bedrooms in the $800 range. So, we’re very comparable with them in our top end, and then we provide an option for the lower end.

President Crouch: Any other questions?

Commissioner Nix: I guess, I’m just curious, did something alarm you to look into this? As far as, or is this something you just knew about?

Commissioner Musgrave: This is something I knew about. I attend a great many neighborhood association meetings, particularly the one that is around Vann Park, and I heard personally their complaints. I also was a member of the board that had to listen to thousands of tax appeals, and this was one of them. Her testimony was compelling, and there was nothing that we could do for her. We still have to tax her, even if her values are declining, and so are everyone else’s. So, I just remembered this, and it alarms me that first of all in all the years that this has been going on, the management of your property professes not to know that this has been going on, and that you are proposing to buy and develop another identically financed and populated project in another part of our community.

Krista Lockyear: If I might, again, bring your attention to the fact that Vann Park Apartments is nowhere near out of line with any other apartment complex in this area.

Commissioner Musgrave: We haven’t established that by any study.

Krista Lockyear: The incident reports list that I pulled today, and this is public record, shows Sugar Mill Creek, the Timbers, all being within very comparable numbers. If you would like to postpone this–

Commissioner Musgrave: I would.

Krista Lockyear: –for a month.

Commissioner Musgrave: I would like to study the records that you have, because I have not seen those, and you say that you have not seen all of the one’s that I have seen. Can we postpone this for a week, or is a longer period of time necessary for noticing?

Brad Mills: Notice can be at the meeting here. Brad Mills, Area Plan. This meeting can be the notice, so, you won’t have to renotify. You could do a week if you wanted to.

Commissioner Musgrave: We have drainage board next week, it might be best to wait two weeks. Would that be an inconvenience for you?

Krista Lockyear: I don’t think it would. My concern I think with postponing, and we can certainly do that, I don’t want to raise a red flag in the media to a problem–

Commissioner Musgrave: They aren’t here.

Krista Lockyear: –that isn’t a problem.

Commissioner Musgrave: No member of the media is here today.

Krista Lockyear: And bring undo concern to neighbors. I don’t think two weeks is a problem for us.

Commissioner Musgrave: Then I would like to make an appointment with you after this meeting is over so that we can share information, and I would like to explore this commitment by the owner to have on site security.

Krista Lockyear: Sure.

Commissioner Musgrave: Move to table for two weeks.

President Crouch: And do you want to make the rezoning at 5:00? Or do you want to make it a part of our Commission meeting? Therefore, we could–

Commissioner Musgrave: I would like to make it immediately following our regular Commission business in two weeks.

President Crouch: And is that something that we can do, I presume? Okay.

Krista Lockyear: So, then for confirmation, it would be in two weeks on a Tuesday night, again, at 5:00 or shortly after your regular meeting?

Commissioner Nix: Hopefully, closer to 4:30.

Krista Lockyear: Okay.

Commissioner Nix: Or 4:15.

Commissioner Musgrave: Immediately following that meeting.

President Crouch: Right, our regular meeting starts at 3:30, so, whenever that meeting would end, we would go right into the rezoning.

Krista Lockyear: Okay, that would be fine.

President Crouch: It might be 5:00.

Commissioner Musgrave: I add that to my motion.

Commissioner Nix: Second.

President Crouch: All in favor?

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Crouch: So ordered.

Krista Lockyear: Thank you.

President Crouch: Thank you. There being no further, is there any other business to come before this board?

Commissioner Musgrave: Motion to adjourn.

Commissioner Nix: Second.

President Crouch: All in favor?

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Crouch: So ordered.

(The meeting was adjourned at 5:50 p.m.)

         Those in Attendance:

         Suzanne Crouch             Cheryl Musgrave            Bill Nix

         Brad Mills                        Kathryn Daniels              Madelyn Grayson

         Krista Lockyear               Gary Wright                    Cyndi Gianneschi

         Others Unidentified         Members of Media

VANDERBURGH COUNTY

REZONING BOARD

Suzanne Crouch, President

Cheryl Musgrave, Vice President

Bill Nix, Member

Recorded and transcribed by Madelyn Grayson.