VANDERBURGH COUNTY

DRAINAGE BOARD

SEPTEMBER 27, 2005


The Vanderburgh County Drainage Board met in session this 27th day of September, 2005 at 4:19 p.m. in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Cheryl Musgrave presiding.


Call to Order


President Musgrave: Call to order the September 27th meeting of the Drainage Board. This one will be in 2005, as opposed to our last meeting.


Approval of August 23, 2005 Drainage Board Meeting Minutes


President Musgrave: Do I have a motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting?


Commissioner Nix: So moved.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


All Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: The motion carries.


Creekside Meadows: Amended Final Drainage Plan


President Musgrave: We move now to the drainage plans. Mr. Jeffers, do you have Creekside Meadows amended drainage plan?


Bill Jeffers: Creekside Meadows is north of Earle, Indiana, on Petersburg Road. This is the same final drainage plan that you approved a couple of months ago, but it has some modifications to allow a more practical grading of the lots around the northern and west, northern and eastern periphery of the project, for more effective use of some fill dirt. Everything is fine. Everything is in accordance with the drainage code. The County Surveyor recommends approval. Glen Meritt from Morley and Associates is the engineer representing the plan, if you have any questions.


President Musgrave: But there have been no substantial changes about the use of the property?


Bill Jeffers: No, Ma’am.


President Musgrave: Okay. Do I hear a motion?


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries.


William S. Hirsch Subdivision: Section Two: Final Plan


President Musgrave: We move to the William S. Hirsch Subdivision, Section Two.


Bill Jeffers: William Hirsch Subdivision, Section Two is located on the east side of Burkhardt, north of Columbia Street, south of Oak Grove Road. James E. Morley is the engineer representing the plan. Don Fuchs is representing the developer, Mr. Hirsch, or the Hirsch Trust. This is a final drainage plan. It contains details for the commercial site development. It meets with the drainage code regulations. There are a few little minor items that we’d talked about in conference, and will be shown on the final street plans that Mr. Stoll brings to you. Nothing significant, just some little dots and jittles. The County Surveyor recommends approval of the plan in front of you.


Commissioner Nix: This area south and west is the area we carved out here some time back? Is that correct?


Bill Jeffers: That is William S. Hirsch, Section One. It’s about four acres that is rumored to be possibly a lending institution.


Commissioner Nix: And that was what–


Bill Jeffers: It’s all integral with...the drainage plan is fairly integral with this plan that’s been approved.


Commissioner Nix: Okay.


President Musgrave: We don’t have any changes from any rezoning that might have taken place in the past?


Bill Jeffers: Not that I’m aware of.


President Musgrave: Okay.


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries.


Carpentier Creek Pavilion: Modified Final Plan


President Musgrave: We move now to the Carpentier Creek Pavilion.


Bill Jeffers: As you are aware, the work on Carpentier Creek Pavilion is moving ahead. This plan simply represents some modifications that have to be made because they discovered a sewer line, or a water line that interfered with the previously approved plan. This set of plans shows corrections for those items that they discovered in the field in the last several days. The County Surveyor recommends approval of this modified plan.


Commissioner Nix: This water line was done in conjunction with the bridge work that’s being put in?


Bill Jeffers: That’s correct.


Commissioner Nix: Or was going to be done at the same time.


Bill Jeffers: That’s correct.


Commissioner Nix: Okay. This compensates or makes up for that, I guess?


Bill Jeffers: I think they had to lower the flow line–


Commissioner Nix: The elevation, right.


Bill Jeffers: –or raise the flow line or something. But, they’ve also beefed up the rip rap cover over that water line.


Commissioner Nix: Okay.


Bill Jeffers: And they’ve beefed up the erosion control.


President Musgrave: Any questions?


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries.


Caymen Ridge Subdivision: Section One: Modified Final Plan


President Musgrave: Caymen Ridge Subdivision, Section One, a final plan.


Bill Jeffers: Caymen Ridge is located north of Kansas Road, west of Highway 57 in the lower McCutchanville area. Mr. Bob Hatfield is the developer. He’s here if you have any questions of him. Glen Meritt designed this modified plan. Basically, it was an open ditch between two rows of homes, and they would like to place concrete pipe in that ditch at this time, so that the homeowners have more use of their backyard and the storm water is controlled in a more orderly fashion. On my notes I had plastic pipe, but in the last week they’ve changed the detail to concrete pipe.


Commissioner Nix: Very good.


President Musgrave: Are there any questions?


Bill Jeffers: The County Surveyor recommends approval.


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries.


Q-Comm Parcel “Lot 7": Heritage Park: Phase Two: Alternate Final Plan


President Musgrave: We now move to, is that Q-Comm? Parcel, lot seven, Heritage Park, Phase Two, the alternate, final plan.


Bill Jeffers: Q-Comm is what’s, I guess, a nickname for Cinergy Communication. It’s got a satellite farm and operations building out there in Heritage Park, Phase Two. This alternate plan allows, or will allow Q-Comm to drain into the detention basin that was recently approved for Heritage Park, Section Two. So, now they have two options. They have the previous option that you approved several months ago where they can drain out to Lynch Road. Or, they can use this option, which will save them some dirt moving and there’s a more efficient use of the dirt fill at the site if we go, if they go with this one. Either plan will work. Justin Shofstall designed this plan. He’s with Andy Easley Engineering. He’s in the audience here representing the plan. The County Surveyor has reviewed the plan and found that it comports with the drainage code and recommends approval.


Commissioner Nix: So, Mr. Jeffers, is this a change? You had mentioned that–


Bill Jeffers: We would like to present it as option two.


Commissioner Nix: Okay, and then will we give the developer the option to use one or two? Or are we saying he will use two?


Bill Jeffers: Yes. Then the drainage code requires that they give us an as-built showing us which one they used.


Commissioner Nix: So, they have the option to use either one then?


Bill Jeffers: They can use one or the other.


Commissioner Nix: Okay. Okay.


Bill Jeffers: The reason for this is if the developer for Heritage Park, Section Two completes the detention basin in a way that coordinates with their ability to use this alternate two, they would choose to use alternate two.


Commissioner Nix: It gives them some options.


Bill Jeffers: Right, it gives them some options–


Commissioner Nix: Some development options.


Bill Jeffers: – to save dirt fill.


Commissioner Nix: Can you point out in both of these, because it’s been awhile since we looked at these?


Bill Jeffers: Point out?


Commissioner Nix: The detention basins.


Bill Jeffers: The detention basin–


Commissioner Nix: I see one on the south there right along–


Bill Jeffers: Right, it’s all along the–


Commissioner Nix: Is that (Inaudible)?


Bill Jeffers: Right.


Commissioner Crouch: Where’s your red thing?


Bill Jeffers: My red thing? I don’t have my red thing.


Commissioner Nix: This is one here.


President Musgrave: Do you want to come up and point it out on these maps?


Commissioner Nix: Just show us on here. That would be fine.


Bill Jeffers: This is the detention basin.


Commissioner Nix: This is option two?


Bill Jeffers: This is option two–


Commissioner Nix: Okay.


Bill Jeffers: –before the entire subdivision–


Commissioner Nix: Gotcha.


Bill Jeffers: –you’ve already approved that.


Commissioner Nix: Uh-huh.


Bill Jeffers: And it’s pretty much in place. Then they have to complete this channel that comes out here.


Commissioner Nix: Okay, that goes to–


President Musgrave: The ditch.


Bill Jeffers: So, option two that I’m asking you to approve for Q-Comm tonight would allow them to drain this southern half of the area into this basin–


Commissioner Nix: Okay.


Bill Jeffers: –when the basin’s ready to accept it. Option one drains everything down here to this corner.


President Musgrave: So, it would drain here and then there?


Bill Jeffers: Yes, Ma’am.


President Musgrave: Okay.


Bill Jeffers: And that would save them having to build this up and tilt it towards the front.


Commissioner Nix: I just wanted to make sure I was clear on that.


President Musgrave: Are there any other questions? Do I hear a motion?


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries.


QTR: Lot 4 and part of Lot 5: St. Joe Industrial Park:

Preliminary Plan


President Musgrave: We now move, does that say quarter lot four and part of lot five, St. Joe Industrial Park? Preliminary drainage plan.


Bill Jeffers: Yes, Ma’am. Okay, what we have here is QTR. That’s the name of the–


President Musgrave: Oh, QTR, not quarter?


Bill Jeffers: Well, it does, I don’t know what QTR stands for–


President Musgrave: Alright.


Bill Jeffers: –but, it’s not, I don’t think it’s quarter. Anyway, it takes up lot four and part of lot five in St. Joe Industrial Park. It’s a preliminary plan. It’s just an industrial site out there behind the plumbers union on North St. Joe Avenue along Locust Creek. The plan was prepared by Justin Shofstall who’s here from Andy Easley and Associates, or Andy Easley Engineering, to answer any questions you may have. Typical preliminary plan for an industrial site on the north side. The County Surveyor has reviewed it, and finds it comports with the drainage code and recommends approval.


President Musgrave: Are there any questions? Go ahead.


Commissioner Nix: Move approval.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries. So, QTR, lot four and part of lot five is approved.


Encroachment Agreements

  

President Musgrave: The next item on our agenda is encroachment agreements. There are none submitted as of noon. Were there any submitted afterwards?


Bill Jeffers: No, Ma’am.


Other Persons Wishing to Address the Board


President Musgrave: Other persons wishing to address the board today. I see one. No? I see one. Yes, sir, please come forward.


Bill Jeffers: Okay, I’m going to bring a plan to you–


President Musgrave: He just left.


Bill Jeffers: It has to be. It’s in the flood plain, so, it has to be two feet above grade. Probably about 385 (Inaudible), something like that.


President Musgrave: You are bringing us a plan for?


Bill Jeffers: Okay, AC Warehousing at 2200 East Lynch Road. The designer is Reggie Heck, an engineer here in the audience to answer any questions. Basically, he, AC Warehousing is asking the board’s permission to connect a new, private drain to Sonntag Stevens, which is a regulated drain in Vanderburgh County. The code requires that new, private drains connecting to an existing regulated drain must have your permission. The plan shows, this is in the city is why we’re not approving a drainage plan. We’re simply approving the connection of the drainage plan to your regulated drain, Sonntag Stevens. However, the City Engineer has approved the plan, or will after this. It goes to the Board of Works after this. I’ve looked at the connecting pipe. It conforms with our specifications for bearing a pipe inside the regulated drain. I recommend that you grant written permission, in the form of the minutes, a copy of the minutes, to Mr. Heck, showing that the Drainage Board has granted permission for the connection of this drain to Sonntag Stevens.


President Musgrave: Any questions? Do I hear a motion?


Commissioner Nix: So moved.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: That motion carries. Are there persons that wish to address the board? Or does that take care of that matter?


Other Business


President Musgrave: I have other business, and it says to move the proposed amendment regarding mandril testing plastic pipe to public hearing. I believe we just did that in the Commission meeting.


Bill Jeffers: You did that in the Commission meeting.


Ditch Maintenance Claims


President Musgrave: So, do you have any claims?


Bill Jeffers: Yes, Ma’am.


President Musgrave: Alright. Do you need to say anything about the claims?


Bill Jeffers: Those are two maintenance claims for the normal annual maintenance of Eastside Urban South half drain, and Eastside Urban North half drain. They have been completed, inspected, everything is in accordance with the contracts that were signed by you earlier in the year. The County Surveyor recommends payment of those claims.


President Musgrave: Any questions? Is there a motion?


Commissioner Nix: So moved.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: Do I have a motion to adjourn?


Commissioner Nix: I make that motion.


Commissioner Crouch: Second.


President Musgrave: All those in favor?


Commissioners: Aye.


President Musgrave: We are adjourned.


(The meeting was adjourned at 4:35 p.m.)


         Those in Attendance:

         Cheryl Musgrave            Suzanne Crouch             Bill Nix

         Bill Jeffers                       Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.          Madelyn Grayson

         Others Unidentified         Members of Media



VANDERBURGH COUNTY

DRAINAGE BOARD




                                                                  

Cheryl Musgrave, President




                                                                   

Bill Nix, Vice President




                                                                  

Suzanne Crouch, Member



Recorded and transcribed by Madelyn Grayson.