VANDERBURGH COUNTY

DRAINAGE BOARD

JULY 21, 2009

The Vanderburgh County Drainage Board met in session this 21^st day of July, 2009 at 5:20 p.m. in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Lloyd Winnecke presiding.

President Winnecke: Okay, at this time I call to order the July 21^st meeting of the Vanderburgh County Drainage Board. Attendance roll call, please.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Tornatta?

Commissioner Tornatta: Here.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Here.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Here.

President Winnecke: At this time I would consider a motion to approve the minutes from our previous meeting.

Commissioner Melcher: So moved.

Commissioner Tornatta: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say aye.

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Winnecke: Opposed. The minutes are approved.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Good evening, Mr. Jeffers.

Bill Jeffers: Good evening, President Winnecke. I’m not sure if Fred or Melissa Emory are here this evening. It doesn’t appear that they are. I sent you a copy of the last transmission where I had told them that Chuck Murphy had come by the office and said he was going to attend to that matter sometime later this week. I got a reply back from Melissa Emory yesterday evening saying she and her husband, Fred, were satisfied with that. They would wait and see how that progressed, and if it was satisfactory you won’t hear from them. If it is not satisfactory they may come to the next meeting two weeks from now.

Bill Jeffers: I left my claims down in the office.

Commissioner Tornatta: We’re going to stamp them.

Madelyn Grayson: I can pick them up in the morning, if you like, because we will stamp them anyway.

Commissioner Tornatta: I was going to say, we’re going to stamp them anyway, so.

Bill Jeffers: I have reviewed them all, and they are, the necessary paperwork is attached, all the signatures are affixed, and the recommendation is to pay the claims for the ditch maintenance.

Commissioner Tornatta: So moved.

Bill Jeffers: I left the folder in the office, I’m sorry.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say aye.

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Winnecke: Opposed?

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Thank you, Bill.

Bill Jeffers: Okay, other than that, in the absence of the Emory’s, and , hopefully, that’s a settled situation, we’re ready for public comment. I have no further business.

President Winnecke: Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak before the Drainage Board? Good evening.

Scott Doan: Good afternoon.

President Winnecke: If you would, state your name and address for the record, that would be great.

Scott Doan: Yeah, my name is Scott Doan, D-o-a-n, and I live at 7029 Marion Court in Evansville. I apologize in advance, I thought I was going to be on the agenda. I had spoken to Mr. Jeffers and I thought I was going to be on the agenda for this evening. My home is located in Eastland Estates Subdivision. Across the back of my property runs Kolb Ditch, or a section of Kolb Ditch. When we bought my home in 1997 there was a lake that the ditch flows into, and then flows out the other side. When we bought it, at that time we had a nice lake out there. Since that time there’s been a lot of erosion, and the, excuse me, the lake level has actually fallen quite a bit, and there’s a lot of erosion on the back side of my property where it’s sheer drops of five and six feet. In places it’s almost a 90 degree drop. It’s gotten to the point now to where it’s difficult to mow back there. I can’t get my lawnmower around to the back side, because I can go around the lake and get back between the lake and Interstate 164 and mow that section. It’s difficult for me to get back there, my neighbors cannot get back there to mow their property. Because of that it’s becoming overgrown. There’s trees and weeds growing in there. The, I don’t know if it was this Board or the Surveyor’s office that commissioned a study, I think about three years ago, on Kolb Ditch. If you will allow me, I would like to read just a couple of paragraphs from that study.

President Winnecke: Sure. Go ahead.

Scott Doan: This is referring to the area of Kolb Ditch and the lake at Audubon Estates. It says:

“According to the Vanderburgh County Surveyor’s Office the permanent pool elevation of the lake has lowered significantly since I-164 was constructed. This lowered water elevation has moved the water away from the docks and the surrounding residences, and is typically four feet below the invert elevation of the box culvert outlet for the lake. Because of this elevation conditions to the southeast of the lake run off can now flow into the lake from the southeast as was observed during a rain event in Mid September 2006.”

So, water is flowing back, instead of flowing out.

“The inlet now (Inaudible) that features to the lake have experienced significant erosion due to inadequate stabilization at high flow velocities. The lowering of the normal pool elevation is a significant contributing factor to the increased flow velocities at these points. Also contributing to the erosion at the outlet is the convergence of flow out of the lake and the ditch running along the eastern boundary of Audubon Lake Subdivision. When the elevation of the lake is at its current pool elevation and a significant rain event occurs, the flow from this ditch flows northwesterly into the lake and significantly contributes to the erosion occurring at the lake outlet.”

I’ve provided Mr. Jeffers with some photos. I thought he was going to bring them. I apologize that you don’t have those. It was my understanding that there is a ditch fund for Kolb Ditch, after speaking with Mr. Jeffers, and that there may be monies available to correct these problems. The engineer in 2006 recommended several things that could be done. I would also like to point out that at one place on the lake there are several utility boxes from Vectren, Sigecom, Insight, AT&T, all have boxes there. It’s washed out underneath that now to the point where an eight foot pipe has fallen into the lake, and these utility boxes are actually suspended out over the edge of the lake, and they are basically hanging on there by the wires. There’s nothing holding them up.

Commissioner Tornatta: Can I make just one suggestion?

Scott Doan: Yes, sir.

Commissioner Tornatta: I would like to have a point of reference, if I could, and I’m–

Scott Doan: Will this help you?

Commissioner Tornatta: Yeah, that would probably help a little bit.

Scott Doan: Alright, can I bring it up?

Commissioner Tornatta: Yeah, absolutely. What I would like to do is, I hate to have you come back at some time, but I would like to get kind of an over, oversee what all you’re talking about.

Scott Doan: Sure.

Commissioner Tornatta: Get a look at it, then when you come in I’ll have a better understanding.

Scott Doan: This is I-164.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay.

Scott Doan: This is my home right here. Kolb Ditch flows in here and out here and goes underneath I-164. Angel Mounds is right here. The trailer court that got flattened by the tornado is right here. This is between Covert and Pollack out near Fuquay Road, if that helps.

President Winnecke: So, the ditch–

Scott Doan: The ditch flows in here–

President Winnecke: Okay.

Scott Doan: –and out here. This is the area that I’m talking about.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Commissioner Tornatta: Alright.

Scott Doan: He’s bringing it up on the screen now.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Scott Doan: Several years ago the county actually did come out there and do some work on the end where my property is, and they also did some repair work where the ditch flows into the lake. You can see where they placed some rip rap and some other things in that area.

Bill Jeffers: That’s Mr. Doan’s home right there.

Scott Doan: I would just ask that the Council would consider appropriating funds for the, I’m sorry, the Board would consider.

Commissioner Tornatta: That’s fine. Mr. President, I would like to recommend us review this, normally how we’ll do this is Mr. Jeffers will get us all the information that you dropped off to him, give some type of overview from what he sees, get either a statement from you, I mean, we have a statement from you today on what you see, and then try and pair those two together–

Scott Doan: Sure.

Commissioner Tornatta: –and get it down to its clearest form. Then at that point we can see what options are available. If those options are available, how they can affect you, or those around you. I would just like to take all of that under advisement and get some more information this week and next week and try and come up with some conclusion, if we could.

President Winnecke: Mr. Jeffers?

Bill Jeffers: First of all I want to apologize. I completely dropped the ball on this one. It was supposed to be on the agenda. Brenda will be bringing the pictures down to enter into your record, and they will be available to you. This is Mr. Doan’s piece of property, this is our regulated drain easement that runs along the north shore line, the previous north shore line of the lake, when the water level was at its designed elevation. Then it runs underneath I-164. It used to run due northwest through this land, and the developer, in order to get these lots large and use the lake front that’s actually an old borrow pit for I-164, he re-routed the lake, he re-routed the ditch through the lake. That kept the lake full of water for several years. When I-164 was being completed, I would have to back this all the way out and I can’t do that and talk over here at the same time, but the Indiana State Department of Transportation, INDOT, cut this subdivision in half with I-164. What is that? Audubon Drive goes down here and Chickasaw Subdivision, etcetera. When they cut that off they had to take Ridgeway and take it out to Fuquay Road. They built that new roadway going out there, the drainage system for all of that then comes down through this easement right here, there’s an easement along these, the west, the east property line of Mr. Doan and his neighbors, and they dedicated that easement to Vanderburgh County Commissioners. Without your knowledge, without your consent, they just deeded it. You know, in the recorded deed it says easement dedicated to the Vanderburgh County Commissioners. That’s standard practice, you don’t necessarily have to accept it, but there it is. All the water from that project, that State highway project, comes down here in a rush, because the time of concentration for that water is much quicker than the time of concentration for this two or three square mile watershed, running through the lake real slowly, this water rushes down, comes backwards through the lake just as Mr. Doan, through the outlet from the lake, just as Mr. Doan described, as well as I could have, and it completely washed out this area where you see the words, “Kolb Ditch Legal Drain”. That’s all completely washed out. We repaired it one time about six years ago. We repaired that, at about $10,000 expense, one time six or seven years ago, and subsequent rainstorms, the big ones have washed it out again. It’s also scoured out the lake right in this area and exposed it to the water table, which fluctuates, and apparently the water table over the last four or five years has dropped significantly, and the entire lake has dropped with it five or six feet. I don’t think Mr. Doan’s concerned about restoring the elevation of the lake in that area, maybe he is, but I think he expressed his basic desire is to repair the embankments of the outlet of the lake. I agree. The only way to protect....we did it once, as I said. We even put in a check dam, which has been washed out, washed back into the lake by the force of this water coming in the opposite way. The only thing I can think to do at this time is to install a concrete wall with an outlet pipe and a flat gate, so that when that water comes down it closes the flat gate and the water can go no other way but out through....here’s the outlet, the State outlet. There’s a box culvert here. Then we would put a concrete wall across here with a flat gate, check valve, and the water would be forced to go out through the pipe the way it was designed to go. The State apparently didn’t take into account that their easement forced the water straight back into the entrance of the lake. Mr. Doan is not able to maintain his property in accordance with our code, simply because you cannot get down in there and do it. Really, since it’s a regulated drain, I guess, we should be out there taking a little bit better care of it, and that’s what his request is.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Bill Jeffers: So, there are funds in the account, and as Commission President Tornatta indicated, it would be my job to bring you a report at your next meeting, an estimate of what it might cost to put this wall in and repair all this damage that this man is showing you. Now, these are Mr. Doan’s pictures. We can’t do anything about the utilities. Those would have to be addressed by the utility that owns those. We can do something about the outlet to the lake.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Commissioner Tornatta: Would–

Bill Jeffers: It falls under our jurisdiction is basically what I’m saying.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right, but would this be in any cooperation with INDOT since they are the ones that caused this issue?

Bill Jeffers: Since they gave you the easement and walked away? I doubt it.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay.

Bill Jeffers: You know, I don’t think, you could probably not go back on them after six or eight years with a claim. Maybe if it all had happened the first year we could have done something, but it’s like when you buy a house, you’ve got a couple of years and that’s about it.

Commissioner Tornatta: If we could address that with INDOT and maybe just ask the question, maybe that’s a place where you and John Stoll could put your heads together, but I sure would like to go back to them and say, you know, this is your design and what it produced, that’s not how it was drawn, and that’s not how it was supposed to go no matter what.

Bill Jeffers: I get your drift, and I would love to be able to do that, and I will look into that if you wish for me to. However, they’ll probably come back and say, look we brought you this rolled set of plans–

Commissioner Tornatta: Right.

Bill Jeffers: –supposedly 30 days before, you know, gave you a 30 day opportunity to review them, actually they drop on your desk about 10 or 15 days before they bring the bulldozers out there. That’s been my experience is they’ll say, well, you had the ample opportunity to review them in 1998.

Commissioner Tornatta: I guess, I’m okay with what we reviewed. I guess, my problem is maybe that’s not what’s here. What they said and what they did could be two different stories, like we deal on drainage plans when a developer is supposed to go, a drainage plan is supposed to go downhill, it goes uphill, that’s a problem and we bring them in and say how are you going to fix it. I guess, I’m just asking could we address that with INDOT and they could tell us–

Bill Jeffers: I would love to get my hands on some of their stimulus money, if that’s what you’re saying.

Commissioner Tornatta: Well, I say it’s worth a shot. If it doesn’t work out, you know, we have measures to do something we feel that we’re in need of doing. Something that, then, yeah, we address it. If they could do something, that would help us out.

Bill Jeffers: Well, yes, sir, and I’ll do that and I’ll follow thorough on that with Mr. Stoll and whomever else can help us. In closing, I would just like to apologize to Mr. Doan. He has done a lot of research on our ditch studies, and everything he said is accurate. His pictures have been very helpful in assessing the situation.

President Winnecke: Thank you, Bill. Mr. Doan, thanks for bringing that to our attention, and we’ll hear more from Mr. Jeffers, undoubtedly, at our next meeting.

Scott Doan: Could I have just one more second?

President Winnecke: Absolutely.

Scott Doan: I apologize. The, if we could go back to the pictures where the utilities are and the pipe is falling in. If, Mr. Jeffers, if you could just clarify that, if that’s part of what he’s proposing to repair? I understand that moving the utility boxes would be their problem. Yeah, just kind of click through those. Right there, or the next one. You can see where they’re, that’s an eight, probably an eight foot section of pipe there that’s fallen in. You know, nine, ten years ago that was all in the ground. I don’t know if that’s part of what he’s proposing to repair or looking at repairing. I would like to ask that. Because I think that’s symptomatic of the whole problem. It’s not separate from the rest of the erosion.

Commissioner Tornatta: Well, if I know Mr. Jeffers, he’s as thorough as it gets. So, I’m sure he will address the issue.

Bill Jeffers: Yes, I had skipped past that issue. This is Vectren’s electric box, but underneath there was a concrete pipe that drains the street that Mr. Doan lives on. It’s in an easement that goes all the way out to the cul-de-sac there, I think it’s Marion Drive, I think it is. The water comes off the street and drains through the pipe and then out into the lake. Here’s a section of the pipe that has fallen off. You can see the bell end has fallen off the stem end of the rest of the pipe that’s up underneath that box. That was a really dumb place to put that box, but there you have it. Now the water level used to be up to the invert elevation of that pipe, which was along in here where I have my laser light. At one time that was the top of the bank, or the toe of, you know, well, anyway it’s the invert elevation of that pipe. Now it’s six feet lower than that, because the lake has gone down and the pipe, water came out the end of the pipe and fell four, five, six feet down and washed out underneath the pipe, and eventually that section fell off. Under normal circumstances on subdivisions built after 1994, there would be a fund that covers, as you know, all the pipes and easements outside of the county road right-of-way. That fund is an escrow account that sits in Mr. Fluty’s office, in the Auditor’s office and gains interest. Then whenever we have a situation like this, we would go to that fund and we would draw money out of it and we would make the repair to this pipe and we restore it to a serviceable condition. I believe when we looked at that five or six years ago with John Stoll there had not been the required submittal of money by the developer into that account. So, there, I believe no account exists for this subdivision to repair the pipes. So, it would fall back on the lake owners association, those people who own property around the lake into which this pipe drains, or to the individual homeowners on either side of the lot line that this pipe runs down. I believe that’s the situation, but, again, I’m sure the Board would appreciate it if I looked into that in more detail with Mr. Stoll to verify it.

President Winnecke: Right. Thank you, Bill. Anything else, Mr. Doan?

Scott Doan: No. Thank you.

President Winnecke: Thanks for coming and bringing it to our attention.

Scott Doan: Thank you.

President Winnecke: Is there anyone else who would like to speak before this Board? Chris?

Chris Walsh: Chris Walsh, County Garage. I just made a report, I was going to e-mail it to you gentlemen about what we’ve done out on Bergdolt Road.

Commissioner Tornatta: Thank you.

Chris Walsh: As you know we’ve been out there the last couple of weeks, and I did some camera work out there, and I just wanted to touch base with you real quick and let you know where we were. We, the underground pipe that runs on the north side of Bergdolt there, we ran our flush truck through there and about 100 feet in had a total obstruction. We opened that obstruction up and got water flowing from Clover all the way down. So, that was a help right there. We found, along the line we found a couple of grates that were covered over probably years and years ago. So, we opened them up, rebuilt the boxes on them, and they are taking some water. We’ve been at a couple of rain events out there and checked it. It has significantly helped. We would like to add one more drain box in there, and it would be minimal expense to do that, and I think that that would help these people right back here.

Commissioner Tornatta: That’s on that, the road past Clover?

Chris Walsh: Right.

Commissioner Tornatta: Heading what, west?

Chris Walsh: Right.

Commissioner Tornatta: And it pools water there.

Chris Walsh: Right. In one of these pictures towards the end you will see, we took some pictures, while it was actually raining out there, and you’ll be able to see that the water stands on the north side of that road. What we would also like to do is install one more box to keep the water from sheeting across the road, I think that would slow it down. I would also like to cut those shoulders along in there all the way down from Clover all the way down to Tanglewood, and then a little bit on Tanglewood where it’s holding some water too. In general the pipe was open, there’s plenty of fall from Bergdolt to the Vectren easement to get that water over. Now these pipes are undersized, but it’s already done significant help to the problem, but my department is happy to do it, we just need right-of-way on the Vectren easement to open that ditch up. If we can get that I can have a crew there to work on that ditch.

Commissioner Tornatta: That’s probably–

Chris Walsh: While that may not solve the problem, it will certainly help.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right. I think you used a reference of the Engineer’s office to help you out with that.

Chris Walsh: Yeah.

Commissioner Tornatta: Loading down John’s group, but they’re pretty proficient over there. I went out there, and I know there’s some more, obviously, some more stuff that we’re going to do, but just some of the modifications already–

Chris Walsh: We did a little ditch on the south side of the road that should help their front yard drainage problems that they were having. So, there’s still a few more things that we can do, and I think it will help. It’s not going to solve all the problems out there, but it will help move some of the water and that.

Commissioner Tornatta: Sounds great.

President Winnecke: So, how much of an obstruction was really there? You said one–

Chris Walsh: The one pipe on the north side of the road was completely shut down. It looked like where two pipes met together there was a little bit of debris that just started building up. When we, and that’s where they had, somebody had filled in a drain box, and that’s what–

President Winnecke: A resident had filled in a drain box?

Chris Walsh: Somewhere along the line it had been filled in, and that’s how we discovered it. We opened that box up, and then we found another box down by Tanglewood that this couple over here made us aware of. So, we opened those up, and during the last rain event we could see that those are helping. So, it should relieve some pressure if I can get in there and finish the rest of these things. The main thing I need is to be able to get into Vectren’s easement and ditch that. That’s the biggest thing right now.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Commissioner Tornatta: Thank you, Chris.

Judy Mefford: I’m Judy Mefford, and I live at 2909 Bergdolt Road. Opening those grates and doing, and digging that ditch out did help some. But we, when we had the rain Thursday night, we had over two inches at our house. We have a rain gage out, we had over two inches at our house. And although we were not up during the rain we could see the next morning that it had run down the...which side?

Unidentified: The east side.

Judy Mefford: I have problems with directions sometimes. That it had run down the east side of our house. The west side we think was pretty well okay. It didn’t look like there was anything particular, but we had had it run down the west of our house, which meant it had probably come down our drive, dropped into the grate that was right in front of the carport and on back down that. You could see it. Our back ditch had water standing in it. The neighbor on the north side of us, I talked to him and he had had lots of water in his carport. Now, putting in the other grate that he’s talking about we hope will help him, and then as a result maybe help us too. But, I’m not sure that we don’t have still more water coming down Bergdolt. So, we’re kind of at a wait and see. I may be back screaming. Thank you for what is being done.

President Winnecke: You’re welcome. Thank you for coming out, and we appreciate your patience. Any other business to come before the Drainage Board?

Paulette Senning: Good evening.

President Winnecke: Good evening.

Paulette Senning: Paulette Senning, 4609 Clover Drive. Again, and we appreciate everything that’s being done in our area. There are several neighbors that due to health cannot be present, and I did bring a concern to the meeting probably about a month ago and gave it to Brenda and Bill for their documentation. It was from the Thompson’s. They live on Clover Drive next to the easement, the Sigeco easement. When you brought this up just a few moments ago talking to Chris, Troy, you were out in the neighborhood a week ago Sunday, and some of the things you said, you had talked about briefly with me, you were going to address with John Stoll. This is something they’ve always had a concern about, excuse me, since they’ve lived in the area, and they’ve been there since the 1950's. That is they thought there was an easement for drainage to the back of the properties, and they have so much water that accumulates and it has just progressively gotten worse. So, I’m just here just to represent them because they cannot. Because we’ve talked about many things in this subdivision and that’s one thing that does need to be addressed, and, I think, Troy, you kind of saw things that day that you were going to talk with John about, but I just wanted to document their concerns for that particular issue.

President Winnecke: And what was their specific address, Paulette?

Paulette Senning: I’m sorry, I didn’t bring my–

President Winnecke: On Clover, they’re on Clover?

Paulette Senning: Yes. It’s right next, it’s on the east side of Clover Drive right next to the Sigeco easement property. I didn’t bring my complete file with me because we’ve been very happy with how things have been progressing. So, I don’t have that, but it’s Gene and Wanda Thompson.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Paulette Senning: And she does have a letter submitted for a concern for that particular issue about a month ago.

President Winnecke: Okay.

Paulette Senning: So, I think they would probably like to know how things are progressing, and however we can get that info to them, I’ll be glad to work through it, just let me know.

President Winnecke: We’ll, I guess, we’ll, Mr. Jeffers, we’ll look to Mr. Jeffers for a little assistance here.

Paulette Senning: Thank you very much.

President Winnecke: Thanks, Paulette.

Bill Jeffers: Paulette, where is it? Over here?

Dave Senning: It’s, do you know where the Vectren easement is, Bill?

Bill Jeffers: Right here. Here’s Clover.

Dave Senning: Okay.

Paulette Senning: It’s south of us, Bill, on the Sigeco easement.

Bill Jeffers: Here’s your house right–

Dave Senning: They’re on the east...okay. Okay, this is the (Inaudible. Comments made away from the microphone.) These people are probably in their 80's and they’ve lived there, I think the subdivision was built, I think, in ‘57, started in ‘57.

Bill Jeffers: Going the wrong way. Okay, the Senning’s house, up here at the top, the water that comes off of Bergdolt from the project that was just completed that’s not captured by the last inlet there, and John Stoll and Chris are working on that. But, still water has traditionally run down the back line of all of these homes, from the Sennings all the way down to this couple that Dave just described to you, runs down here, and then it has to make its way across this Vectren easement, a couple of hundred feet wide, has to make its way across there to get into Sonntag Stevens Ditch, which starts right here at Oak Hill Road and runs west, due west, under Clover. So, that water that comes down here has to somehow make it across. There’s a big pile of firewood here. I don’t know who that belongs to. Whether it belongs to the people who are complaining, or whether its somehow or another found its way into this area, but that blocks the water as it comes out of this natural watercourse. I’ve written all of that up in one of my previous reports. So, the water then turns and runs out to Clover along the south line of these folks house as it can make it out. You can also see, if you look close enough at their lot, that they come in on their driveway, someone comes in on their driveway and there’s wheel tracks that comes around here to where they use this area, basically, for storage, and here’s the woodpile. So, when the water comes down here, tries to make its way between that tree and this yard barn over here, it hits that woodpile and runs through this area of the easement that they’re traditionally, not inappropriately, I’m not trying to insinuate anything whatsoever. Because if I was living next door to an easement there would be a big tomato patch out there. But it does run across an area of their lawn that belongs to them, and an area of the easement that they have begun using to some extent. That causes them a problem. Then it finds its way out here into the street. I’m not sure exactly what Chris Walsh was talking about, but I think he wanted to go down and ditch the easement a little bit farther west of here, and the same thing needs to be done across the easement here. We just need to get Sigeco’s permission to come onto their easement and just dig a shallow swale right straight across here to, well, that’s really going to mess things up. Here we go. You can see I’m technically oriented today. But, anyway, we need to ditch that across there, as well as what Chris is talking about farther down Longacre. We need to get all of the water out of this neighborhood and into Sonntag Stevens Ditch where it belongs. We need to get it there as fast, as quickly and as most orderly a fashion as we can possibly do it. So, these folks, I expect to see them again. Just coming up and politely suggesting that we get with it on some of these things. I think that we’re capable of doing that, but we need the cooperation of some other agencies and some private agencies like Vectren.

President Winnecke: So, can you, between the three, the County Engineer, the Highway Superintendent and your office coordinate trying to get the access to those through Vectren?

Bill Jeffers: I think we should work on that, and I hope that we can do that, yes, sir.

President Winnecke: Okay, great.

Commissioner Melcher: And move the woodpile, right?

Bill Jeffers: Someone will have to move the woodpile. Yes, we’ll have to get with that property owner and suggest that the woodpile be moved to some other place.

President Winnecke: Great.

Bill Jeffers: Yes, sir.

President Winnecke: Thank you, Bill.

Bill Jeffers: Yes.

President Winnecke: Any other questions or concerns to come before this Board?

President Winnecke: Bill, any other business from your office?

Bill Jeffers: No, sir.

President Winnecke: I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

Commissioner Melcher: So moved.

President Winnecke: We are adjourned.

(The meeting was adjourned at 5:59 p.m.)

Those in Attendance:

Lloyd Winnecke                        Troy Tornatta                            Stephen Melcher

Bill Fluty                                    Bill Jeffers                                 Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.

Madelyn Grayson                     Scott Doan                                Judy Mefford

Paulette Senning                      Dave Senning                           Others Unidentified

Members of Media

VANDERBURGH COUNTY

DRAINAGE BOARD

Lloyd Winnecke, President

Troy Tornatta, Vice President

Stephen Melcher, Member

(Recorded and transcribed by Madelyn Grayson.)