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Council Meeting September 4, 2002
The Vanderburgh County Council met in session this 4th day of September, 2002 in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex. The meeting was called to order at 3:32 p.m. by County Council President, Lloyd Winnecke. President Winnecke: Good afternoon,
whoa, good afternoon, I would like to welcome everyone to the September
4th meeting of the Vanderburgh County Council. We'll begin with
attendance roll call please.
*Arrived at 3:35p.m. President Winnecke: Would you please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? (The Pledge of Allegiance was given.)
President Winnecke: Okay, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes from our August 7th meeting, and the August 6th, 7th, 8th, 13th, 14th and 15th budget hearing minutes. Councilmember Hoy: So moved. Councilmember Tornatta: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Roll call vote. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. (Motion carried 6-0/Councilmember
Sutton not present.)
AREA PLAN President Winnecke: Okay, Mr. Finance Chairman, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Okay, thank you. First on the agenda is Area Plan, 1240-3610, Legal Services, in the amount of $20,000, I'll move approval. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Winnecke: There's a motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. AREA PLAN REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion carried 6-0/Councilmember Sutton not present.) COMMISSIONERS Councilmember Raben: Okay, next under County Commissioners, 1300-3040, Soil and Water, $2,097. I'll move approval. Councilmember Hoy: Second. I'll second, and I commented last week that I would check into that. Those are the funds needed for finishing the year. That will take care of the rest of the year. Councilmember Wortman: You (Inaudible) with that number? Councilmember Hoy: Yeah, but they are needed for the end of the year. President Winnecke: Okay, there's a motion and a second. Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. President Winnecke: Let the minutes reflect Mr. Sutton has arrived. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. COMMISSIONERS REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) Councilmember Raben: Okay, next 1300-3051, $50,000. I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: There's a motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. COMMISSIONERS REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) Councilmember Raben: Okay, next 1300-3760, Occu-Med, in the amount of $5,000. I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. COMMISSIONERS REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS Councilmember Raben: Okay, next under Community Corrections, 1361-1850, the request was for $25,000. The Sheriff's office has volunteered to pay that out of User Fees. I will move that that be set in at zero. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Councilmember Raben: The only discussion I would have, is I would thank them for working with us on this, and the $180,000 line item that they picked up on the budget side. So, I think that was a great gesture, and thank them. President Winnecke: I think we have a procedure....Jim, I think, we need to set this in, and then repeal it later. We need to set it in at $25,000, and then repeal it. Sandie Deig: And then they have to put the User Fees back into the General Fund. Councilmember Raben: Okay. Alright, I'll amend my motion to read 1361-1850, Union Overtime, $25,000. Councilmember Wortman: And I'll second that too. President Winnecke: Okay. Are there questions or discussion? I would echo Councilman Raben's point that, a special thank you to the Sheriff's office, all the offices, but they made a, I think, a larger sacrifice, or as large a sacrifice as anyone, and we appreciate that. Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS REQUESTED
APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) THE CENTRE Councilmember Raben: Okay, The Centre, 1440-3536, Other Operating, in the amount of $100,000. I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. THE CENTRE REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) Councilmember Raben: Okay, 1440-1910, PERF, in the amount of $6,200. I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. THE CENTRE REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) BURDETTE PARK Councilmember Raben: Okay, Burdette Park, 1450-1180, and 1450-1900, for a total request of $37,680. I'll move approval. Councilmember Hoy: Second. Councilmember Bassemier: Jim? Jim, can we...Steve Craig's got a question on that. President Winnecke: Yeah, there's a motion and a second. Steve, do you want to just come up? Steve Craig: Steve Craig, Manager of Burdette. Councilmember Bassemier: Can that appropriation be taken out of the Float Stand Account? On the other employees? They just made a motion for $37,680. Steve Craig: I would have to see if we have enough money to have an operating balance for next year. We haven't got all of the receipts into that. Councilmember Bassemier: So, that's a maybe? Steve Craig: A maybe. Councilmember Raben: Do you know what that account balance is right now? Steve Craig: I couldn't tell you (Inaudible). Suzanne Crouch: I believe they can go ahead and appropriate, and then they can check and blue claim into the General Fund from that Float Stand Account, if there is sufficient revenue. You've done that before for- Steve Craig: Different things, yes. Suzanne Crouch: Yes, uh-huh. Steve Craig: I don't know if we would have the full amount, but I could check to see what we could put in. Councilmember Bassemier: Do you want to set that in at zero, Jim, until we can- Councilmember Tornatta: Set it in at the full amount. Councilmember Raben: Well, I think we'll have to treat this- Councilmember Bassemier: Okay. Councilmember Raben: -like we did the other budget. Councilmember Bassemier: Okay. Councilmember Raben: Set it in for the full amount, and then- Councilmember Bassemier: Okay. Councilmember Raben: -let him come back with it. President Winnecke: Other questions or discussion? Councilmember Bassemier: Thank you, Steve. Steve Craig: Thank you. President Winnecke: Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. BURDETTE PARK REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) COUNTY HIGHWAY Councilmember Raben: Okay, next, County Highway, 2010-3010 in the amount of $27,256, I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. COUNTY HIGHWAY REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) CUMULATIVE BRIDGE Councilmember Raben: Okay, Cum Bridge, account 2030-4404, University Parkway Bridge in the amount of $1,610,000. I'll move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. CUMULATIVE BRIDGE REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) LOCAL ROADS & STREETS Councilmember Raben: Okay, Local Roads and Streets, 2160-4825, in the amount of $5,000. I will move approval. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. LOCAL ROADS & STREETS REQUESTED
APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0) JAIL PROJECT Councilmember Raben: Okay, 3660-4110, Land, in the amount of $37,500. I will move that that be set in at zero. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I don't really want to get into a great deal of debate on this subject, because I know we spoke to it, at length, last week, but, there has been a million dollars put in place for the purchase of land, and if they opt to spend nearly $38,000 before we even begin negotiations, or see any appraisals on the property, you know, that's their business. If they want to spend it out of the million, you know, they can certainly do that, but, at this point, I would not encourage this body to invest an additional $37,500. Councilmember Sutton: Got a question. President Winnecke: Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Sutton: Last week when we were talking about this, one of the things that we talked about was the information that CSX may fax over, or get to us, or get us a better idea on their results from the phase one. On the environmental impact of on the use of this particular land. I don't know if one of the Commissioners, or, David, if you want to, if you got any information, or anything different from what we had last week. Last week there wasn't, you were anticipating that. Just wanted to know if you've heard anything? If you have, what did they send you? David Mosby: I haven't got the information yet, but, yes, I did have conversation with Mark Freeland on Friday, and CSX, at their expense, is doing a phase one. That's all they're doing. They said they normally don't do that, but, in this case, they will do a phase one environmental, and that's as far as they'll go. They will send us the information as soon as they have it in hand. It will be conducted by their people. Councilmember Tornatta: And is that phase one, or phase two? I thought they already did the phase one. David Mosby: This is a phase one. They are going to have it done by their people, and they will send us the results after. They had ran a historical on the property. Councilmember Sutton: So, I guess, maybe I was under the impression last week they had already completed that. Is this something they are going to do again? David Mosby: They completed a historical. So, now they are going to go ahead and contract for a phase one and pay for it, so that we can have the paperwork on it. Councilmember Sutton: And based upon what they find out from the phase one- David Mosby: They will not go no further, regardless of what it shows. Councilmember Sutton: And what's their time table on actually initiating the phase one? David Mosby: He said he was ordering it on Friday. They've done ordered the amended appraisal. He's waiting for the results of the appraisal, and he said as soon as he gets the environmental, he'll get us the information on that. Councilmember Sutton: Did they, they didn't give any indication about how long they think that will be before they get back those results on the appraisal, and the phase one? David Mosby: No. He just said at their mercy, you know, as soon as he gets it, he will get it to us. Councilmember Sutton: Okay. David Mosby: I mean, we're curious to see it too. Councilmember Sutton: I guess, the other thing that we talked about too last week was, you know, from the method that we're intending to use to finance this project being bond financing, if we were able to get any information that talks about the criteria required from the bond side. David Mosby: I did contact Mr. Pittman at Baker and Daniels, and he also put Mary Lisher on the phone, who is the head of all the real estate for Baker and Daniels, and it is in no way ever the responsibility of the seller to provide you with any of that. He said there is an IRPTL law, that if you're referring to IRPTL, they have to make you aware of any problems with the property. If there was ever underground tanks or anything like that. I had Mr. Pittman e-mail me that, so that you can have a copy of it. We also asked him about the environmental for the project, and it's not required, but, I'll let you read this, and you'll see some things that will definitely- Councilmember Sutton: Hold on, before you move away- David Mosby: Okay. Councilmember Sutton: You say it's not required. It as being phase one, phase two? When you say it, what are you referring to? David Mosby: The environmental is not...it just says, you know, the environmental reports relating to the property, it's purpose is to purchase for jail site could do a bond financing related to the jail, while we are not aware of any specific legal requirements for such reports, we would strongly recommend that the county obtain such reports; (1) without knowing the environmental conditions of the property, the county is not in good position to know how much the property is worth, and how much the county should pay for the property. (2) Although we have not specifically researched the issue, they may well be liability for the county, if the county acquires the land without environmental...with environmental problems. (3) If the financing is done on a lease financing with a mortgage running in favor of the bondholder, and it is currently contemplated not having environmental reports might negatively impact the marketability of the bonds. So, them are the reasons, you know, that he has stated. Like I say, the other one is a requirement of the seller, and it's not. You know, he said it's not required, so. Councilmember Raben: I believe I had stated that last week. I put it both, in both respective to private industry and government, that it would make it tougher to sell bonds. You know, in the private sector, it's next to impossible to get any type of loan without, you know, clean title, as far as the environmental study. So, I had made that point last week. President Winnecke: Anyone else? I'm sorry. Councilmember Tornatta: What is the breakdown? I think you had a breakdown on the three things that you are going to do with the $37,500. David Mosby: 15,000 of it would be for the geo-tech. 7,500 would be for the survey, and the other 15,000 would be for the environmental. Councilmember Sutton: One more time. David Mosby: 15 on the environmental, 15 on the geo-tech, and 750, 7,500 on the survey to break the land. Because there's 82.2 acres out there, so we'll have it surveyed off to select the amount of land that we decide we could buy with whatever the price is. We'll have to do a survey. Councilmember Tornatta: Now we would have to do a geo-tech and a survey regardless, is that correct? David Mosby: Yeah, I mean, to set the boundaries of whatever we decide to buy, I mean, we'll have to survey the land, and show what we would like to have, which we know is going to be the southern end of the property. But, to come out with the lines, I mean, yeah, we would have to survey. Geo-tech, I mean, we would have to do it, to see if the ground is going to be capable of holding what we're trying to build. Councilmember Tornatta: Well, I mean, the way I look at it, I see, you know, if the environmental is not what this Council is looking to see you do, at this time, I sure do think that we would like to see what the geo-tech study would say, and the survey would say, and then, I don't know what that has to do with purchasing the land out of the land price. We gave you a million dollars and a penny to spend on land, yet this is not buying land. This is everything you have to do to buy land. So, I mean, that's where I differ from some of the other Councilman on this. I think that's quite adequate, even if we don't give you the extra 15,000. Councilmember Raben: You know, I guess, again, it comes back to the original topic, who's responsible for what? The initial surveying, if parcels need to be broke up, or the property needs to be split up, the land...the buyer takes care of title searches and things of that nature, but surveying work, again, falls back on the back of the property owner, the person that's selling the property. Again, I would question that any real estate transaction that's taken place in the last ten years in this county, where the person that has not even made a commitment to buying the property, the real estate has paid for the site survey, and for the environmental studies. David Mosby: I beg to differ with you, because I just bought a piece of land earlier this year, and the property owners all had to pitch in for the survey and the attorney. Councilmember Sutton: Well, we're dealing with- David Mosby: So, I mean, I'll differ with you- Councilmember Sutton: -an unusual seller. We're dealing with an unusual seller here, you know. Councilmember Hoy: We're dealing with a railroad. Councilmember Sutton: Right. Councilmember Hoy: Why do you think the inventors of the Monopoly game put four railroads on that board? If you own all four of them, you're going to win the game. Councilmember Raben: I'm going to put this rest. Again, you know, we've given a million dollars. Go out, make the best deal you can do. I would spend, I would recommend you spend as little as possible on doing things that are their responsibility, so you get as much acreage for that million as you can get. You know, I can say, go to work. I'm tired of hearing it. David Mosby: Oh, we're not waiting on you. I mean, we're working. There's no doubt. I mean, we've got this moving. President Winnecke: Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Sutton: I think, across the board, I think we all are in agreement that we're fine with this particular site. I mean, I think from all of what we've talked about, and discussed, up to this point, I think there's pretty much a consensus across the board that the Wansford Yard location is where we want this to be. Maybe as we, as I'm hearing what you're saying, David, well except for Ed here, I think he's got some other idea. Councilmember Bassemier: (Inaudible. Mike not on.) Councilmember Sutton: Perhaps maybe we need to hear a little bit more from CSX on this phase one. Get their results back, and that will tell us what the next step is. Maybe rather than zeroing this out, maybe we defer this until we get the information that we feel like we might need, and the appraisal too. Obviously, that's going to drive it. If they come back with an appraisal, and the price is, you know, way above what we kind of had in mind, then, obviously, it's a new ball game that we're dealing with here. So, perhaps, maybe this is maybe more of an issue that we get some more information before we can even really move forward, in particular on those environmental issues, and the appraisals, since those are driving what we ultimately can do anyway. President Winnecke: Mr. Hoy. Councilmember Hoy: Question for President Winnecke or Councilman Sutton. You both, both of you guys are bankers. You said something last week about how a bank would handle a loan on such a piece of property. Would you, would you loan this kind of money, take on a project like this unless the owner came up with an environmental study, or not? As bankers. Councilmember Sutton: Well, this is not my area of expertise. Councilmember Hoy: Okay. Councilmember Sutton: So, I want to make sure I make that clear on the record. But, you know, and I'm not making this as an official position of Fifth Third Bank, but in my area that I deal with probably we would look at something of this nature and this size, it would give you a greater degree of comfort, from a bankers standpoint, if you had at least that phase two environmental in there. Whether the seller pays for it, the buyer is paying for it, we're not necessarily, I don't think that's a position that a banker would make one way or the other, just as long as that information was available is the most important thing. President Winnecke: I would have to offer the same caveat, that's not my...thank you. That's not my area of expertise, but based on the conversations I've had with our commercial lending folks, I think Councilman Sutton is right, the issue is not whether one is done, I think that would be a generally acceptable practice. The issue is who pays for it, and based on the information I've received, from our folks, it is traditionally the responsibility of the seller, and not the buyer to incur the expense. Councilmember Hoy: Well, my other two points are we have allocated a million dollars, which would allow this to be done anyhow. I just want to go on record, as a Councilman, saying that Councilman do not, we do not choose the site for the jail. If I were to choose a site for the jail, I would not choose Wansford Yards, but that is not my choice to make. I just want to make it clear that that's not my position at all on where the jail should be located, but I don't make that decision. President Winnecke: Okay, we have a....Mr. Tornatta? I'm sorry. We have a motion on the floor, and a second to set in line item 3660-4110 at zero. Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: No. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Once again, my position...again, my position, I think this is probably more of a deferral issue rather than zeroing out because of the information that we still are anticipating, so my vote is no. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. JAIL PROJECT REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion carried 5-2/Councilmembers
Tornatta and Sutton opposed)
PROSECUTOR
REASSESSMENT: CENTER, GERMAN, KNIGHT, PERRY & PIGEON TWP. ASSESSOR Councilmember Raben: Okay, does anyone object to taking all the transfers together? Councilmember Wortman: I do. Councilmember Raben: You do? Would you like for me to single out one? Councilmember Wortman: In reference to the Highway, it's not normal procedure to take it out of the salary account. Councilmember Raben: The only one that would actually fall into that would be the Drainage- Councilmember Wortman: Right. Councilmember Raben: -so, I'll tell you what we could do, we could set the figure in at $618, and omit the $350. President Winnecke: Repeat that again. Councilmember Raben: What Councilman Wortman is referring to is, there is a request under County Highway to transfer out of a salary line into a Miscellaneous line of sorts. It's non-salary related. So, we would really need to omit that $350 figure, and simply approve a $618 transfer. You know, we would be transferring from salary line to salary line. President Winnecke: Okay. Councilmember Raben: So, okay, I'm going to make a motion that we approve all transfers as listed, with the exception of County Highway, and that should read account 2010-1042, Laborer, $618 to account 2010-1053, Secretary, for the amount of $618. All other transfers as they are listed, and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. PROSECUTOR REQUESTED APPROVED
VOTER REGISTRATION REQUESTED APPROVED
WEIGHTS & MEASURES REQUESTED APPROVED
PUBLIC DEFENDER AGENCY REQUESTED APPROVED
SUPERINTENDENT OF COUNTY BUILDINGS REQUESTED APPROVED
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
DRUG & ALCOHOL DEFERRAL SERVICE REQUESTED APPROVED
THE CENTRE REQUESTED APPROVED
BURDETTE PARK REQUESTED APPROVED
LEGAL AID REQUESTED APPROVED
COUNTY HIGHWAY REQUESTED APPROVED
CUMULATIVE BRIDGE REQUESTED APPROVED
CUMULATIVE BRIDGE REQUESTED APPROVED
COUNTY COUNCIL REQUESTED APPROVED
REASSESSMENT/CENTER TWP. ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
REASSESSMENT/GERMAN TWP. ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
REASSESSMENT/KNIGHT TWP. ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
REASSESSMENT/PERRY TWP. ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
REASSESSMENT/PIGEON TWP. ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
Councilmember Raben: Okay, next I'm going to take amendments to the salary ordinance. First is Community Corrections, I move that we amend salary line 136.1-1850, Union Overtime, as previously approved. This is User Fees will be deposited in the General Fund for this appropriation. Burdette Park salary line 1450-1180, Other Employees, as previously approved. Salary line 1450-1970, Temporary Replacement, and it's a transfer as previously approved. The Temporary Replacement for Secretary/Receptionist to be paid at a rate of $10 per hour, which is less than the initiation salary. County Highway, I'll move to amend salary line 2010-1053, Secretary, as previously approved. Cum Bridge, line 2030-1990, Extra Help, as transfer previously approved. Center Assessor salary line 249.2-1110-1300, Reassessment Overtime, as previously adopted. German Assessor salary line 249.2-1120-1300, Reassessment Overtime, as previously adopted. Knight Assessor Reassessment salary line 249.2-1130-1300, Reassessment Overtime, as previously adopted. Perry Assessor line 2492.2-1140-1300, Reassessment Overtime, as previously adopted. Pigeon Assessor salary line 2492.-1150-1300, Reassessment Overtime, as previously adopted. With this the transfers approved for Reassessment Overtime does not include part time or any payment for overtime for Chief Deputies. So, I just wanted that on the record. I'll make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Wortman: Second. President Winnecke: Motion and second. Questions or discussion? Councilmember Raben: Just real quick, it is a concern of most assessors that their Chief Deputies be paid overtime along with the other employees. The one's that I have spoke to, I have told them that we will work on finding a way to do that. You know, those Chief Deputies are exempt from being paid overtime. So, that will require us to take action, probably next month, to allow that to happen, but it would be my intent to see that they were paid in overtime. Councilmember Hoy: Mr. President? President Winnecke: Yes, sir. Councilmember Hoy: I don't even know whether this suggestion is legal, that's why we have an attorney. Hi, Mr. Ahlers, how are you today? I don't know whether this suggestion is legal, and we can't act on it today, but we need to move the assessment ahead, and if we can't do the overtime, perhaps we could do an incentive or something of that nature to encourage people. All the while I say that, I go back to something I said earlier about our county employees. I'll embarrass Mrs. Deig and Sarah, Sarah's not here to embarrass, but I have watched our Executive Assistant for a long time do enormous amounts of overtime, you know, with no extra pay. If that's what it takes to get it done, I know they are going to have to work hard. They are going to put a lot of hours in, and that might be a way to go. Just something to think about. Thank you. President Winnecke: Any other comments or discussion? Roll call vote, please. I'm sorry. No? Roll call vote. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta? Councilmember Tornatta: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman? Councilmember Wortman: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke? President Winnecke: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
President Winnecke: Any Old Business? Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Sutton: It's old and new, I guess. When we, there were some projections that were shared with us earlier this year, and even last year. In looking at how we would pay for the jail project based upon setting aside certain sums of money, $2.7 million each year for a period of 10 years. In that we've already used some of those dollars, even this year, from that fund, and the dire prospects of even next year even having that unappropriated cash balance available to us to be able to set aside that much money. Two things I want to request is, if at all possible, if we could get our information back from the State Board of Accounts, when they go back and figure, you know, where we are, if we can get that information as early as possible to find out where we stand, and if we can keep that up? If we can't keep that formula up, putting aside 2.7 each year, where that ultimately will place us? What position it's going to put us in, in trying to put together some type of package on this bond? Because, as I say, the assumptions that we had back then are really not the reality that we have right now. I kind of was making note of that even when we were kind of talking about that, but, I guess, just, as I say, just a little bit concerned that we're not going to be able to keep up that pace. Being that we're already spending that, spending at that money already, what position it's going to place us in. So, if you guys are following what I'm trying to say there. President Winnecke: I follow that. Councilmember Sutton: I don't know, everybody kind of had this I'm not quite sure look. President Winnecke: Pondering. Councilmember Sutton: So, yeah. President Winnecke: I guess that would come from, actually, through the Auditor's office. Councilmember Sutton: From the Auditor's office. If you can as quickly, as quickly as possible when they are able to come in and do all of what they do down here, get that information back to us, because, obviously, it's going to change the whole picture. President Winnecke: One last bit of business. I made one appointment to the Minority and Women Business Enterprise Committee. I'm waiting on a call back from another individual. My appointment is John Norris, and Mrs. Deig will- Councilmember Sutton: He said yeah? President Winnecke: Yes, he said yes. Councilmember Sutton: Okay. President Winnecke: Mrs. Deig will notify Mr. Lawrence for that. Any other business? The filing date, October 2nd for our next meeting. Councilmember Tornatta: Motion to adjourn. President Winnecke: Wait, wait- Sandie Deig: (Inaudible. Mike not on.) September 13th (Inaudible). President Winnecke: September 13th for October 2nd. I got ya. Thank you. We're adjourned. (Meeting adjourned at 4:06 p.m.)
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Recorded by Teri Lukeman. Transcribed by Madelyn Grayson. |
