VANDERBURGH COUNTY COUNCIL
DECEMBER 7, 2011
The Vanderburgh County Council met in session this 7th day of December in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex. The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m. by County Council President Joe Kiefer.
President Kiefer: I’d like to open the meeting for the Vanderburgh County Council, December 7, 2011. If we could, let’s see if Councilman Shetler could lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
(Pledge of Allegiance was given)
President Kiefer: Thank you, Tom. Do we have a motion to approve the minutes from November 2nd, 2011? Oh, attendance roll call, thank you.
COUNCILMEMBER |
PRESENT |
ABSENT |
Councilmember Terry |
X |
|
Councilmember Bassemier |
X |
|
Councilmember Shetler |
X |
|
Councilmember Goebel |
X |
|
Councilmember Raben |
X |
|
Councilmember Lloyd |
|
X* |
President Kiefer |
X |
|
*Councilmember Lloyd arrived shortly after roll call.
President Kiefer: We have six members here, so we’re good to go.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 2011 |
President Kiefer: Now if we could have a motion to approve the minutes.
Councilmember Shetler: So moved.
President Kiefer: We have a first and a --
Councilmember Terry: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, all in favor, say aye.
(All Councilmembers voted aye)
(Motion unanimously approved 6-0)
APPROPRIATION REQUESTS |
President Kiefer: We’ll jump right into the appropriation ordinance. Chairman Raben, if you could lead the way on that, please.
RECORDER
Councilmember Raben: Okay, thank you. Good morning, first on the agenda is 1040-1910 PERF under County Recorder in the amount of $237, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Roll call please, and please note that Councilman Lloyd is here.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
RECORDER REQUESTED APPROVED
1040-1910 |
PERF |
237.00 |
237.00 |
Total |
|
237.00 |
237.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
SHERIFF
Councilmember Raben: Okay, next under Sheriff, 1050-1130-0199, I guess there’s some confusion that has been brought to our attention on that one, that we can’t increase this line item by the $450 requested here, so we’re going to set that in at zero, and hopefully Sheriff Williams will be able to do something from another account to offset the extra monies.
Councilmember Lloyd: I was going to say, he needs to do a transfer on that, right, but we can’t do that as an appropriation.
Councilmember Raben: The problem is, this is the last meeting of the year.
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
SHERIFF REQUESTED APPROVED
1050-1130-0199 |
Part-time Clerk |
450.00 |
0.00 |
Total |
|
450.00 |
0.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
Councilmember Raben: In fact, we might, if we can get the correct account number, we might be able to do a late transfer at the end of the transfers. Next, under Fuel, 1050-2210 in the amount of $48,000, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Any further discussion? Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
SHERIFF REQUESTED APPROVED
1050-2210 |
Fuel |
48,000.00 |
48,000.00 |
Total |
|
48,000.00 |
48,000.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
President Kiefer: We’ll just wait one second, please.
CORONER
Councilmember Raben: Okay, next under Coroner, Autopsies in the amount of $15,000, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Lloyd: Mr. Chair, what about putting that in at $10,000?
Councilmember Raben: Okay, I’ll entertain that in the amount of $10,000, I’ll amend my motion.
President Kiefer: Okay, is there a second?
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: First by Councilman Raben, second by Councilman Lloyd. Discussion?
Councilmember Terry: If memory serves me correctly, this is what we’re being billed for, correct, from the other counties? I thought that’s what was –
Councilmember Raben: Well, that and probably paying the –
President Kiefer: Perhaps we can take a minute and have an explanation.
Steve Lockyear: Good morning. My name is Steve Lockyear, I’m the Chief Deputy in the Coroner’s office.
President Kiefer: Steve, you know, it was amended to do $10,000. Is that something that is sufficient to get you through December and do the rest, the balance in January?
Steve Lockyear: We are down about, we owe the doctor, right now, about $26,000 through the end of the year. Those are bills that are in right now from him. That’s per the contract with him.
President Kiefer: Okay, so is there monies that we can transfer then?
Councilmember Lloyd: I mean, when this was presented, I guess you had a balance of about $4,500, so that’s been all expended, is that what you’re saying?
Steve Lockyear: I think we’re down to about $2,200 now. I don’t have the sheet in front of me.
President Kiefer: So basically, the $15,000 is not going to cover you, is that what you’re saying?
Steve Lockyear: That is correct. It will get us through the end of the year and then it’s an ongoing bill as they come through.
President Kiefer: Okay.
Councilmember Lloyd: I mean, my thought was just save some money from the general fund, and push that bill off until January.
Steve Lockyear: We can certainly work with that. I mean,...
President Kiefer: Okay, if you can work with that, then, --
Steve Lockyear: Yeah, I think we can work with that.
President Kiefer: Okay, we’ll go with the motion as it stands then.
Councilmember Bassemier: I’ll second the $10,000.
President Kiefer: And a second from Councilman Bassemier.
Councilmember Lloyd: I had already seconded it.
President Kiefer: Okay, well, we’ve got a third from Councilman Bassemier.
Councilmember Shetler: It’s insurance.
President Kiefer: Okay, then if there’s no further discussion, thank you. Then we’ll have a roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved.
CORONER REQUESTED APPROVED
1070-3650 |
Autopsies/Diagnostic |
15,000.00 |
10,000.00 |
Total |
|
15,000.00 |
10,000.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
PROSECUTOR CHECK RECOVERY
VOTER REGISTRATION
DRAINAGE BOARD
COMMISSIONERS
PUBLIC DEFENDER
THE CENTRE
Councilmember Raben: Okay, next Prosecutor, 1082-1910 PERF in the amount of $9, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: This is going to be a tough one, guys. Okay, we’ve got a first and a second. Discussion on this $9?
Councilmember Lloyd: Unless you want to kind of lump all these PERF requests together.
Councilmember Raben: We can. I’ll amend my motion, let’s do that.
Councilmember Shetler: I’ll amend my second.
Councilmember Raben: Let’s also include Voter Registration 1220-1910, Drainage Board 1260-1910, Commissioners 1300-1910, Public Defender 1303-1910, and The Centre 1440-1910 as listed.
President Kiefer: Okay, is the motion amended by the seconder?
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay. Discussion? Okay, roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved
PROSECUTOR CHECK RECOVERY REQUESTED APPROVED
1082-1910 |
PERF |
9.00 |
9.00 |
Total |
|
9.00 |
9.00 |
VOTER REGISTRATION REQUESTED APPROVED
1220-1910 |
PERF |
214.00 |
214.00 |
Total |
|
214.00 |
214.00 |
DRAINAGE BOARD REQUESTED APPROVED
1260-1910 |
PERF |
14.00 |
14.00 |
Total |
|
14.00 |
14.00 |
COMMISSIONERS REQUESTED APPROVED
1300-1910 |
PERF |
842.00 |
842.00 |
Total |
|
842.00 |
842.00 |
PUBLIC DEFENDER REQUESTED APPROVED
1303-1910 |
PERF |
860.00 |
860.00 |
Total |
|
860.00 |
860.00 |
THE CENTRE REQUESTED APPROVED
1440-1910 |
PERF |
400.00 |
400.00 |
Total |
|
400.00 |
400.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
CIRCUIT COURT
Councilmember Raben: Circuit Court, Accrued Payments 1360-1971 in the amount of $4,609, I’ll move approval.
President Kiefer: Is there a second?
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Second, Councilman Lloyd. Discussion? Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Aye.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved.
CIRCUIT COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
1360-1971 |
Accrued Payments |
4,609.00 |
4,609.00 |
Total |
|
4,609.00 |
4,609.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
SUPERIOR COURT
Councilmember Raben: Okay, Superior Court, 1370-3460 Consultant, in the amount of $650, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Second by Councilman Lloyd. Discussion? Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, that’s seven-zero, approved.
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
1370-3460 |
Consultant |
650.00 |
650.00 |
Total |
|
650.00 |
650.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
THE CENTRE
Councilmember Raben: The Centre, we have Overtime, FICA and PERF for a total of $4,215, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Discussion, please? Seeing none, roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Aye.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, approved seven-zero.
THE CENTRE REQUESTED APPROVED
1440-1850 |
Union Overtime |
3,500.00 |
3,500.00 |
1440-1900 |
FICA |
315.00 |
315.00 |
1440-1910 |
PERF |
400.00 |
400.00 |
Total |
|
4,215.00 |
4,215.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
COUNTY COUNCIL
Councilmember Raben: Next, County Council 1480-1920 Insurance in the amount of $400,000. I’m going to move that we approve this and with this motion, also move that this body authorizes the County Auditor to transfer money from our set aside into the general fund to cover this, we need that in the motion.
Councilmember Shetler: Second.
President Kiefer: I have a first by Councilman Raben, second by Councilman Shetler. Discussion from Council?
Councilmember Shetler: Is this going to be enough to complete our insurance bills and take care of –
Sandie Deig: It’s taking every penny.
Councilmember Shetler: This will take it all, though.
President Kiefer: And I think this is indicative of the concerns that we have as a county government with ever increasing costs of insurance and, you know, next year it doesn’t look like it’s any easier than this year, so just, this is a special note to the public, I guess, to say these are tough times and insurance costs for us have increased dramatically. Councilman Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: I was just going to point out, the money is coming from the Jail set aside that this Council had moved when the new jail was constructed, and that was money moved from the general fund, so it’s general fund monies coming back to cover the insurance bills at the end of the year. But, I mean, it’s one of the places where the Council has saved money over the years and we’re going to have to use some of it today.
President Kiefer: Councilman Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Perhaps we could get some of the $288 million they just found at the State House to help us.
President Kiefer: Joe, do we have any computer glitches that will uncover some money for us?
Joe Gries: We try to avoid that, but we’ll double check.
President Kiefer: Okay, Councilman Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: There are some measures that have been taken, though, for next year on the insurance. The health insurance for most of the county employees has been tweaked slightly, a slight deductible that wasn’t included in the past, a few other things. It’s still a very good policy, I think, for the employees. The Commissioners, a couple of Councilmembers, have worked on that and next year, in fact, one of the things that would have no effect on existing employees is extending the probation period for a new hiree until they get on the health insurance program
will be extended a little bit. That’s going to be a savings of $50,000, for example, so there’s several things that we’ve looked at and implemented for next year that will hold the line on the insurance cost. Had we left it alone, we were talking about increases somewhere between 12 and 16 percent. So a significant savings that we’ve been able to get. And I still, and I think it’s probably one of the best insurance policies you’ll find out there. So we’re still providing well for the employees.
President Kiefer: I agree with you, Councilman Shetler, I just merely wanted to point out that despite the hard work of the elected officials on this, it’s still tremendous pressure that we’re put under every year by these increasing costs in health insurance. Anything else? Okay, roll call.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, it’s approved seven-zero.
COUNTY COUNCIL REQUESTED APPROVED
1480-1920 |
Insurance |
400,000.00 |
400,000.00 |
Total |
|
400,000.00 |
400,000.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
Councilmember Bassemier: Joe?
President Kiefer: Yes, Councilman Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: I’d like to go back. I know we already voted on it, but The Centre, on that PERF, it was listed twice. I didn’t know if that was, if you look at it, by itself, it’s $400, and then you go down to Union Overtime, PERF again, $400. Did we vote on that twice or is that two different –
Sandie Deig: It’s two different requests.
Councilmember Shetler: It’s PERF on the Union Overtime.
Councilmember Bassemier: Okay, thank you.
President Kiefer: Thank you. Okay, I think we’re ready for CCD fund appropriations.
CCD/SUPERIOR COURT
Councilmember Raben: Okay, Superior Court, Motor Vehicles. Everybody was given a great deal of information, and appreciate their efforts and trying to make the necessary changes that they did, in the amount of $58,050, I’ll move approval.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Any further discussion? This was, as Councilman Raben said, discussed in great detail. Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved.
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
2031-1370-4230 |
Motor Vehicles |
58,050.00 |
58,050.00 |
Total |
|
58,050.00 |
58,050.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
TRANSFER REQUESTS |
CLERK SHERIFF JAIL
SURVEYOR CORONER PROSECUTOR IV-D
ASSESSOR AREA PLAN CIRCUIT COURT(2)
SUPERIOR COURT (2) LEGAL AID CUM BRIDGE (2)
LOCAL RDS & STREETS(2) REASSESS/AUDITOR (2) CLERK (LATE)
TREASURER (LATE) SUPERIOR COURT(2 LATE) HEALTH DEPT. (LATE)
Councilmember Raben: Okay, that concludes our appropriation requests. We’ll move into transfers. Mr. President, there is quite a number of transfers, I’m going to move that we approve all transfers as listed.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Is there anything any Councilmember would like to discuss about the transfer requests? Okay, seeing none, I ask for a roll call.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved.
CLERK REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1010-1260-1010 |
Appeals & Venue Clerk |
362.00 |
362.00 |
To: 1010-1990 |
Extra Help |
362.00 |
362.00 |
SHERIFF REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1050-1130-0062 |
Deputy Sheriff |
6.00 |
6.00 |
To: 1050-1130-0063 |
Deputy Sheriff |
6.00 |
6.00 |
JAIL REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1051-1130-0312 |
Confinement Officer |
6,500.00 |
6,500.00 |
To: 1051-1971 |
Accrued Payments |
6,500.00 |
6,500.00 |
SURVEYOR REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1060-3520 |
Maintenance & Repair |
425.00 |
425.00 |
To: 1060-1910 |
PERF |
425.00 |
425.00 |
CORONER REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1070-3540 |
Maintenance Contract |
2,972.00 |
2,972.00 |
To: 1070-2600 |
Supplies |
1,400.00 |
1,400.00 |
1070-2710 |
Color Film |
1,350.00 |
1,350.00 |
1070-1910 |
PERF |
222.00 |
222.00 |
PROSECUTOR IV-D REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1081-3720 |
Lab Tests |
419.00 |
419.00 |
To: 1081-1910 |
PERF |
419.00 |
419.00 |
ASSESSOR REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1090-1720-1090 |
Real Estate Transfer Clerk |
51.00 |
51.00 |
To: 1090-1120-1090 |
Chief Deputy |
51.00 |
51.00 |
AREA PLAN REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1240-3410 |
Printing |
413.00 |
413.00 |
To: 1240-1910 |
PERF |
413.00 |
413.00 |
CIRCUIT COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1360-3130 |
Travel/Mileage |
400.00 |
400.00 |
To: 1360-3903 |
Petit Jurors |
400.00 |
400.00 |
CIRCUIT COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1360-1150-1360 |
Court Reporter |
3,352.00 |
3,352.00 |
1360-3130 |
Travel/Mileage |
1,000.00 |
1,000.00 |
1360-3730 |
Continuing Education |
900.00 |
900.00 |
To: 1360-1971 |
Accrued Payments |
3,352.00 |
3,352.00 |
1360-2270 |
Juror Meals/Lodging |
900.00 |
900.00 |
1360-3944 |
Special Reporter |
1,000.00 |
1,000.00 |
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1370-3949 |
Home Study/Adoption |
5,250.00 |
5,250.00 |
To: 1370-3941 |
Guardian Ad-Litem |
1,500.00 |
1,500.00 |
1370-3931 |
Youth Services |
3,750.00 |
3,750.00 |
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1370-3050 |
Patient/Inmate Care |
22,073.00 |
22,073.00 |
To: 1370-3941 |
Guardian Ad-Litem |
22,073.00 |
22,073.00 |
LEGAL AID REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1460-3010 |
Other Insurance |
10.00 |
10.00 |
1460-3600 |
Rent |
12.00 |
12.00 |
1460-3680 |
Malpractice Insurance |
110.00 |
110.00 |
1460-3730 |
Continuing Education |
200.00 |
200.00 |
To: 1460-2600 |
Supplies |
332.00 |
332.00 |
CUMULATIVE BRIDGE REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2030-2530 |
Bituminous Materials |
6,500.00 |
6,500.00 |
To: 2030-3610 |
Legal Services |
1,500.00 |
1,500.00 |
2030-2230 |
Garage & Motor |
5,000.00 |
5,000.00 |
CUMULATIVE BRIDGE REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2030-3930 |
Other Contractual |
110,000.00 |
110,000.00 |
2030-4425 |
Fickas Road Culvert |
70,000.00 |
70,000.00 |
2030-4746 |
Mann Road Culvert |
10,000.00 |
10,000.00 |
To: 2030-4381 |
Broadway Ave. Bridge |
190,000.00 |
190,000.00 |
LOCAL ROADS & STREETS REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2160-3930 |
Other Contractual |
2,000.00 |
2,000.00 |
To: 2160-3610 |
Legal Services |
2,000.00 |
2,000.00 |
LOCAL ROADS & STREETS REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2160-2530 |
Bituminous Materials |
140,000.00 |
140,000.00 |
To: 2160-2580 |
Calcium & Chloride |
140,000.00 |
140,000.00 |
REASSESSMENT/AUDITOR REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2490-1020-3530 |
Contractual Services |
2,500.00 |
2,500.00 |
To: 2490-1020-3370 |
Data Management |
2,500.00 |
2,500.00 |
REASSESSMENT/AUDITOR REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2490-1020-3530 |
Contractual Services |
750.00 |
750.00 |
To: 2490-1020-2700 |
Other Supplies |
750.00 |
750.00 |
LATE TRANSFERS |
CLERK REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1010-1260-1010 |
Appeals & Venue Clerk |
1,400.00 |
1,400.00 |
To: 1010-1990 |
Extra Help |
1,400.00 |
1,400.00 |
TREASURER REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1030-2841 |
Copy Fees |
22.00 |
22.00 |
1030-2600 |
Supplies |
29.00 |
29.00 |
1030-3700 |
Dues & Subscriptions |
32.00 |
32.00 |
1030-3410 |
Printing |
31.00 |
31.00 |
1030-3610 |
Legal Fees |
3,500.00 |
3,500.00 |
To: 1030-3530 |
Contractual Services |
114.00 |
114.00 |
1030-3999 |
Bank Service Charge |
3,500.00 |
3,500.00 |
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1370-1690-1370 |
Court Administrator |
6,566.00 |
6,566.00 |
1370-1570-1370 |
Riding Bailiff |
3,465.00 |
3,465.00 |
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1370-1804-1370 |
Court Reporter |
4,251.00 |
4,251.00 |
1370-1820-1370 |
Day Reporting Officer |
1,479.00 |
1,479.00 |
To: 1370-1971 |
Accrued Payments |
15,761.00 |
15,761.00 |
SUPERIOR COURT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 1370-1470-1370 |
Probation Officer |
8,772.00 |
8,772.00 |
To: 1370-1971 |
Accrued Payments |
8,103.00 |
8,103.00 |
1370-1910 |
PERF |
669.00 |
669.00 |
HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUESTED APPROVED
From: 2130-3000 |
Bond & Insurance |
3,920.00 |
3,920.00 |
To: 2130-1990 |
Extra Help |
3,640.00 |
3,640.00 |
2130-1900 |
FICA |
280.00 |
280.00 |
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
CIRCUIT COURT REQUEST TO FILL VACANCIES |
President Kiefer: Okay, that takes care of the transfers. There’s nothing on the repeals or nothing on old business, so we’ll move right into new business. First on the agenda under new business is the Circuit Court request to fill one full-time and one part-time vacancy. Judge?
Carl Heldt: Carl Heldt, Circuit Court. Mr. Chairman and members of the Council, I have two requests, one for a part-time intern in probation. This intern assists in on-site drug screening and filing and such, necessary to the operation. It’s a part-time job, twenty hours a week, no fringe benefits and it comes out of the user fee fund, so there’s no impact on the county budget. The second one is for a Court Reporter that is retiring at the end of this week, forty years service to the courts and we need to replace her. We have three court reporters in Circuit Court and she is one of them, and so obviously, it’s necessary to the operation of the court to have a replacement. Those are the two requests.
President Kiefer: Thank you, Judge Heldt.
Councilmember Bassemier: Make a motion to approve.
President Kiefer: Got a motion from Councilman Bassemier.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Second from Councilman Lloyd. Any discussion? Okay, you’re going to get off easy today, it looks like. Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Aye.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, seven-zero, approved.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
SUPERIOR COURT REQUEST TO FILL EIGHT VACANCIES |
President Kiefer: Next on the agenda, Superior Court, request to fill eight vacancies. Judge Niemeier, I see you’re out in the audience, I know we’ve talked about this a little bit last week on the Superior Court vacancies.
Brett Niemeier: Judge Niemeier, Juvenile Court with the Superior Court, if anybody has any questions.
President Kiefer: I’d look for a motion to approve from somebody.
Councilmember Bassemier: I’ll make a motion to approve.
President Kiefer: Motion from Councilman Bassemier. Is there a second?
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Second from Councilman Lloyd. Discussion please?
Councilmember Lloyd: Well, the only thing I would add is, some of these were unplanned vacancies. Is that a good way to say it?
Brett Niemeier: Yes.
Councilmember Lloyd: But there’s eight in total and they’re all in the budget and some of them will be filled with new people, correct?
Brett Niemeier: Yes, we anticipate.
Councilmember Lloyd: Okay, so from the Council’s point of view, some of those would come in at lower salaries than what’s leaving, so in that way, the county will save money, but you have some inexperienced people, so that’s the tradeoff. That’s all my comments.
President Kiefer: Okay, well, we have a first and a second and if we could do a roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. Judge Niemeier, thank you very much.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
PROSECUTOR REQUEST TO FILL VACANCIES |
President Kiefer: Okay, Prosecutor, I think I see Prosecutor Hermann here. This is a request to fill one full-time vacancy and one part-time position from the incentive funds and continue paying overtime to Enforcement Officers and –
Nick Hermann: I believe the overtime issue is supposed to be in January, I think that’s to continue to next week.
President Kiefer: Okay.
Nick Hermann: I mean, we can talk about it today if the Council has any questions, but that’s ongoing now and it’s my understanding that it has to be renewed in January.
President Kiefer: Okay, any questions from Councilmembers?
Councilmember Goebel: You’ll stop then, as of January 1, any overtime, until you come back to us? Is that correct?
Nick Hermann: I’d prefer not to, but it was my understanding that that was the procedure. If I’m wrong, if that just continues as is, then that would be fine, but it was my understanding we had to come back in January to ask to have that renewed in to next year.
Councilmember Goebel: This is still the filing process and things like that?
Nick Hermann: Yes.
Councilmember Goebel: I still have a bit of an issue just from the outside. Perhaps there are some people who could do this part-time, intern or something like that, who have some law background that might be able to help instead of paying overtime. It might help your cost as far as getting the work done and also help individual’s cause without paying overtime. I think there probably are some people out there that would be very grateful for the opportunity.
Nick Hermann: We’ve looked at a couple of different ways to do that. We’ve looked at the document imaging places, we’ve gotten some quotes from that. They were all in the, well into six figures, and we’ve looked both at the part-time and at paying overtime. Due to the training cost at this point, we made the decision to get the people trained. It’s very expensive to bring somebody in to train them and we’re trying to get our staff up and going, making sure that they’re proficient in that. Once they’re at a proficiency level that they may be able to train someone else, and we’re not having to pay multiple thousands of dollars a day to have somebody come in and train them, then that’s something that we’d certainly entertain and look at.
Councilmember Goebel: And when you get caught up with this procedure, this will become part of the job without overtime after that?
Nick Hermann: That’s correct. We’re starting from here forward, we’re putting everything in. Our issue is we have about 17,500 old cases that we also have to get in, and that’s what’s taking the time, is getting the back on top of maintaining the current caseload.
Councilmember Goebel: Nick, I was wondering if maybe you could give a little bit of a summation as to how far along you are with this or how long the overtime will continue.
Nick Hermann: We expect, if we closed our office and sent our files away, it was going to take a document imaging company four months full-time, to get all of that done. We estimate that we can get it done in about a year and a half.
Councilmember Goebel: I suppose we can discuss it in January again. Alright, thank you.
President Kiefer: Okay, so basically we’re looking for a motion to approve the full-time Investigator’s position that’s vacant as of December 23, and then hiring the part-time employee at $10 per hour.
Nick Hermann: That’s correct. And it’s my understanding that if we hired somebody December 21 or 23, whatever it is, that that would hit in the last payroll, so our expectation would be to hire at the beginning of the year, but we want permission to hire for that so we can go ahead and interview and offer people the job.
President Kiefer: Right.
Councilmember Lloyd: I make a motion to approve both as submitted.
Councilmember Bassemier: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. Councilman Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Can you kind of explain the difference between what the job responsibilities would be for this investigator versus what you would use the sworn police officers and sheriff deputies to do?
Nick Hermann: That may be something more directed toward the Sheriff or the Police, but I can give it a shot. Our investigators perform a couple of different roles, one is they prepare case files on cases that come down just as reports. Sometimes when there is a police report made, there’s not a full case file done, and the police department sends people down with their reports and we do a little bit of investigation into that, contact the victims, get a case file together. We’ve been working with the police department, they’ve started trying to take some of the domestic violence cases, in particular, over. I can’t say numerically that that’s been real successful to this point, but it is something that we’re pushing for. They are also available to help our attorneys as they prepare for cases to go out and find witnesses, talk to them, help in case preparation. All of our attorneys carry about 200 cases at a time and have multiple cases set for trial in given weeks, and so they can help aid in that and get information for those trials.
Councilmember Shetler: Approximately, what’s that salary level?
Nick Hermann: The Investigators are PAT IV, the person that is leaving, I think, has worked for the county on two different occasions for a total of about, I want to say twenty plus years. But I think she was at a salary level of twelve years this time because she had left and come back. So we don’t anticipate hiring someone with a lot of – they’re likely to be a new hire.
Councilmember Shetler: So about 33 - $35,000, roughly?
Nick Hermann: I think that’s accurate, yes.
Councilmember Shetler: It sounds like you’re describing that the job is a lot of clerical, kind of a little bit the person is kind of a, call it a conduit between the sworn officers and their work and putting that into some kind of written form to hand to your people.
Nick Hermann: Our Investigators are sworn law enforcement officers.
Councilmember Shetler: Okay, but I’m trying to figure out a way here, if we don’t have some duplication here, if there’s ways to utilize I guess other services here somewhat. Perhaps that’s for a different time here but –
Nick Hermann: I’d be happy, if you want to sit down and talk about it, I’d be happy to meet with you any time.
Councilmember Shetler: Alright, thanks, Nick.
President Kiefer: We have a motion and a –
Councilmember Bassemier: Second.
President Kiefer: Any further discussion? Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Aye.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE REQUEST TO FILL VACANCY |
President Kiefer: Okay, next on the agenda is the Cooperative Extension, request to fill a full-time vacancy. I thought someone was here to, yeah, they were here.
Randy Brown: I know you talked about it at the last meeting, I just came in case you had any more questions.
Councilmember Shetler: I thought the request was to see how urgent it was and to see if it could be put off.
President Kiefer: I think that’s what we’re going to do is just defer this until the next month.
Randy Brown: Okay, no problem.
President Kiefer: Okay, thank you.
Councilmember Lloyd: I don’t know if you want a motion to defer?
Councilmember Shetler: So moved.
President Kiefer: Okay, we’ve got a first.
Councilmember Raben: Second.
President Kiefer: And a second by Councilman Raben. Okay, we’ve got a first and a second. All in favor, say aye.
(All Councilmembers voted aye)
President Kiefer: Opposed?
(No opposing votes were cast)
President Kiefer: Okay, it’s deferred.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
SCOTT SCHOENIKE VENUWORKS UPDATE ON FORD CENTER |
President Kiefer: Next on the list we have Scott Schoenike from VenuWorks. I asked Scott to come today just to give us a brief update and pass on to you a letter that we received here to the Council, somebody had sent us, about their experience and so we’ll just, after you’re done, if you don’t mind, come up and I’ll give you a copy of this letter. But, Scott, why don’t you just tell us a little bit about what you guys are doing, how it’s going. As you know, we’ve got quite a bit of money invested in this project and would just like to have a brief update.
Scott Schoenike: Well, the good thing is I’ve gone through a number of openings before in my past. I think overall, we’ve had a really good opening. I think overall, the comments have been positive, I think some of the fears haven’t came up that was greatly feared, including parking, I think, has been about as well as can be expected. You know, the building got opened on time, on budget. A couple of stats, we’ve been open just a little over a month of true opening here. We’ve done, in the first twenty-five days, we did twenty performances, 103,000 people came through the door. Concession sales were over $600,000 in the first month and that equates to Roberts that was, I believe, under $800,000 for the entire year of last year, so I think you can see where we’ve been making some pretty good strides. You know, overall, I think we’ve trained our staff pretty well, you know, obviously, that’s an ongoing issue. You know, I think you can always train, but I think the ushers have gotten a lot of positive response from them, you know, from the patrons coming in and saying we’re doing a good job. The upcoming year, you know, it continues to be strong. Obviously, we run on a calendar year like you guys so we’re kind of ending a stub year here of November/December and then we’ll start a new fresh year, but the businesses and the sponsorship sales have been great, we’re over $1.6 million per year which is going to go a long ways to keep those operating costs and keep it on the positive side, so like I say, you know, VenuWorks, the home office is based out of Ames, Iowa. We’re in fourteen different states, mostly markets the size of this, so I like to say we kind of specialize in this size market and it’s different when you’re in a smaller market and you have to market and get the shows. I think this facility gets Evansville back on the map. You know, we’re getting quite a bit of interest as far as routing tours. They’re starting to build up again, you know, I think the recession kind of had a little lull in where they are but it sounds like next year a lot of them are coming back on tour, so we’ll try to break that trend of being a country only area. You know, tonight we have Trans Siberian Orchestra, the Christmas show, which is sought after in the entire U.S. It’s one of the top Christmas shows that are out there, so I think it shows the interest nationally, I think it shows the promoters are interested in the building, so it’s something that Evansville can be really proud of and the whole county can, and I really look at this as being the catalyst for the downtown area. And not only that, but it is interesting to talk to some of the stores in the outlying – we’ve had comments from restaurants that when people are coming in town, it’s not only a downtown issue, people are driving in from southern Illinois, southern Indiana, coming to businesses, going to restaurants, and they’ve even seen an increase on our event day, so it’s kind of one of those things where you kind of pat yourself on the back, going, you know, it is working as it’s supposed to, it is bringing dollars to the area even though I think it definitely helps the downtown, it’s more than just the downtown that it’s bringing in to. And so when you hear some of those, it’s kind of, you know, I was kind of happy to say it’s doing as planned and doing everything that it was projected to do. And so far, it looks like it’s going to continue on for some time.
President Kiefer: Scott, do you guys track where your patrons come from? I mean, is there any tracking mechanism to determine if they’re coming from outside of Evansville/Vanderburgh County, like western Kentucky, southern Illinois? I would just be curious to know how we’re doing pulling in people from outside the area.
Scott Schoenike: Yes, we will track, as much as we can, I mean, obviously, we can’t track everybody, but we probably will get eighty percent of the people, know what zip code they are actually purchasing from, so when we get some track record and a little longer time frame, we’ll definitely report that. I’ve always shown it in my other cities that I’ve been at, kind of showing how many tickets have been sold in which zip codes, and that’s how we track it is by zip code. So you’ll see some, probably wait until probably after the summer, after our first full season here and kind of put a report out, but so far, from what the beginning couple of events, you know, I think it’s going to show exactly what you want it to, is that it’s much larger than just this county or just the couple of counties around here. I think you’re going to find that it stretches all the way into southern Illinois and northern Kentucky. So we’ve seen some good numbers so far and I don’t see why that would change.
President Kiefer: But the center is meeting financial projections or exceeding, basically, is what you’re saying?
Scott Schoenike: We’re exceeding financial projections. So we’re in good shape there.
President Kiefer: Councilmembers? Councilman Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Not much, Scott, but I think the media has covered pretty well the response here locally, the Courier and different articles, and it’s been, I think, very favorable, but what has been the response of groups that have come in to the center as far as the facility itself, these groups that maybe travel to other venues?
Scott Schoenike: I think the nice thing about having, you know, you hired HOK, they’re a national company that builds arenas, so it definitely is designed as a multi-use facility and the first two shows coming in, you know, another compliment we got from the Bob Seger group was, for our first show, first load in, we were on schedule with shows they do in established buildings. So they were very complimentary of that because, generally, you’ve got to work the bugs out and the first couple of shows we’ve done, we’ve actually just been on a normal schedule, so it’s been very stress free for them and we’ve gotten a lot of positive comments from the national touring acts and have been real happy.
Councilmember Goebel: Thank you.
President Kiefer: Councilman Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Good morning, and I appreciate you coming in. I guess one note of history, I don’t know if you knew, but this Council approved moving some food and beverage tax money to help the bonds that were issued to pay for the Ford Center, so anyway, we did have a role in that. You’ve been open a month, so what’s the largest crowd you’ve had so far?
Scott Schoenike: Bob Seger was, which was just slightly under 9,000, that was our largest crowd. As an opening event, that’s where, you know, we’ve kind of continually opened up seats kind of further back because the first time we actually got a stage in there and we kind of opened some seats in the back, but for all essential purposes, that was our first sell-out was Bob Seger.
Councilmember Lloyd: You’re not counting the basketball?
Scott Schoenike: Yeah, basketball would have been, I think, Indiana was 11,000. I’m trying to think of the numbers of, I think tickets were over 11,000, so we pretty much sold out for Indiana, you know, just do the configuration, you see some closed seats behind the bleachers that I’m sure some have seen if you’ve been at the games. That’s just due to side line issues with the bleachers that you put on the floor, so it’s essentially a trade in seats, you’re just moving seats closer and closing ones further back. So that’s been one question that some people have asked, why were those seats closed. It’s really just moving seats closer to the court and then closing the seats behind them.
Councilmember Lloyd: Yeah, that generated a lot of excitement and I know there was quite a demand for those tickets, so –
Scott Schoenike: That was nice to have Butler and IU; you probably couldn’t ask for a better schedule of anything and hockey has done fairly well. Their first game there, they had over 8,000, so the Ice Men have done a good job in getting it out in the community, so I think the two sports tenants have came out strong and we should be able to continue that on. But it’s hard to beat Butler and then IU.
Councilmember Lloyd: Right, that would be hard. So anyway, the record now is roughly 11,000, the U of E/IU game.
Scott Schoenike: For attendance, yes.
Councilmember Lloyd: Do you see any effect not having a hotel next door at this point or –
Scott Schoenike: Like I said, you know, I mean, it would be nice but its not critical for an arena. There’s a lot of arenas that don’t have it, so it’s not an expected – most of the tour buses, they’re coming in, you know, like Trans Siberian will come in today, they’ve actually had a couple of days, so they’ve kind of slowly came into the city, but most shows arrive here in the morning and leave in the middle of the night. Some shows like it, but it definitely is not as critical as The Centre, I’m sure it is much more critical for them. But I’m coming from an arena that had an attached hotel and it’s definitely nice, it’s nice for the patrons, it’s nice for the acts. It would be a nice amenity, but for me, personally, I don’t lose much business. The current business I’m going after is much more the sports tenants, the one day in and outs, and there’s a few things that we’ll work with. But overall, it would be a nice amenity to have, but not critical.
Councilmember Lloyd: And I don’t know, the last question I would have, much discussed issue, parking. And I think all of the evening events, I don’t think there’s going to be a problem, the problem would be a daytime event where you have, if you’ve been out there, you’ll see all the employees for the government building park out there, so I don’t know if you anticipate some daytime events coming up, and if so, do you have any kind of plan on the parking or is that part of your domain?
Scott Schoenike: You know, obviously, I work a lot with it. I mean, technically, it’s not my domain, but it is my domain, obviously. Well actually, our perfect storm actually almost started off right with Butler, actually with an afternoon crowd, large, and The Centre also had a very large Jehovah Witness conference going on at the same time. And surprisingly, parking wasn’t an issue. One of our, kind of we talked about, our biggest concern was always if The Centre is doing a large event and we’re doing a large event, what happens. And that actually happened on Butler and it still seemed to work pretty well. You know, the Jehovah Witness will actually be in the arena in June and we’re working with the city/county employees on how to ease that, with what they call the back 40 a little differently and have the employees, I believe, park in the ramps. So I know they’re working with that and we’re working to come up with a solution. It’s only that Friday as Saturday won’t be an issue. But I think my biggest concern was actually the Butler game when we went to the afternoon and there was a Jehovah Witness, a fairly large one at The Centre, and it seemed to work, so I think that was another positive look that parking can work in these areas. And I come from, once again, Cedar Rapids had much less, I had a 10,000 seat arena in an arena with less parking. And the learning curve, I expected a little longer learning curve, actually, and here it seems like people are figuring out and I’ve seen a lot of good comments about how they’re actually home quicker than they ever were at Roberts. I believe I projected that even before the building was opened, that I think you’ve got to look at it that way, that there’s so many different ways to get out of downtown, you can park a little bit more spread out because you know exactly how you want to get out of downtown to get to your house the best way. And it seems like people have figured that out pretty quick and you make sure you park in the direction you want to go and the right street you want to get out of downtown. So I think the public really, you know, as much a concern as it was, I think they thought it through and also kind of figured out how they wanted to get out of downtown and it’s actually worked out pretty well.
Councilmember Lloyd: Great, that’s all I have. Thank you.
President Kiefer: Scott, thank you very much. I can only say from my own experience, I’ve been to a concert plus three of the Aces games including the IU and the Butler game, and from my own personal experience, I never had any parking issue. I was able to get in and get out really, honestly, quicker than I did at Roberts Stadium because there’s so many exit points. But that was just my experience. I can’t speak for other people. But thank you very much for coming. We may ask you once a year to come back and just give us an update, if you don’t mind, and do appreciate you coming by today.
Scott Schoenike: And if there’s something else that comes into your head later, feel free to call. We are in the office now at the Ford Center, so we’ve moved in there and concerns, issues or just questions, always feel free.
President Kiefer: Here’s a letter, you can come up and I’ll give you a copy. You may have already got a copy of this, but this came across my desk and I thought I would share it with you. Thank you, Scott.
Councilmember Terry: I also wanted to say that he has a great team of individuals in the Evansville office, too, to work with. I had the privilege of working behind the scenes and planning an event down at the Ford Center, and so he has an awesome team and they’re very good to work with, and so I think that’s important to note, too.
Scott Schoenike: Definitely makes my job a lot easier having a good support staff underneath me and so I appreciate hearing that, I’ll make sure and I’ll tell them that.
President Kiefer: Thank you, Scott, I appreciate it.
PETITION TO APPEAL FOR A PROPERTY TAX SHORTFALL LEVY INCREASE DUE TO ERRONEOUS ASSESSED VALUATION |
President Kiefer: Okay, next on the agenda, there’s a petition to appeal for a property tax shortfall levy increase due to erroneous assessed valuation. I thought maybe, Joe, you might just give a brief explanation of this.
Joe Gries: Sure, this is something that has happened every year for the last several years, probably six or seven years. It allows the county to recover property taxes that were lost. As it says kind of in the explanation, due to property tax appeals, assessed values that were dropped, taxes that we’re unable to collect for the current year. The petition shows a dollar amount there for property tax shortfall. That’s an estimated amount; the reason that’s estimated is because the Auditor’s office has to finalize everything here in December to distribute property taxes. Once we know the final numbers, we’ll put that number in and we’ll send that to the state. But this is something that we’ve done, like I said, the last several years.
President Kiefer: The same thing happens in the city as well?
Joe Gries: That’s correct.
President Kiefer: What I’d like to do is, basically, read this and then ask for a motion to approve this. This is something that has to be signed by Councilmembers: “Petition to Appeal for an Increase to the Maximum Levy. The County Council of Vanderburgh County, State of Indiana, has determined to file for an excess levy appeal”, and then as Joe stated, it’s checkmarked “Property Tax Shortfall (IC 6-1.1-18.5-16) $2,800,000 (Estimated)”. And then “The fiscal body of Vanderburgh County hereby resolves to proceed with a petition for an excess levy to the Department of Local Government Finance to increase the taxing unit’s maximum levy. Adopted this 7th day of December, 2011." If I could ask for a motion to approve.
Councilmember Lloyd: Motion to approve petition to appeal for an increase to the maximum levy.
Councilmember Raben: I’ll second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first by Councilman Lloyd, second by Councilman Raben. Is there any discussion? Questions? Councilman Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Well, I think this is something we’ve done over a number of years and Councilman Raben would know more than me, but part of having the property tax caps where your property tax dollars are frozen to a very small increase, this is one way to try to recoup some of that. It’s not any kind of increase on taxpayers, it’s collecting monies that you wouldn’t normally collect.
Councilmember Raben: Good point. Thank you.
President Kiefer: Okay, roll call, please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes, and I think that’s a document that has to be signed today, so please sign before you leave today.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE VANDERBURGH COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS AND CERTAIN METHODS OF PAYMENT |
President Kiefer: Next is a resolution authorizing the Vanderburgh County Health Department to accept credit cards and certain methods of payment. I appreciate Jeff Ahlers having worked on this. You might, Jeff, give a brief explanation of what we have here.
Jeff Ahlers: Yes, and I know that Mr. Heck with the Health Department is here today if you have any questions. I think the way this came up was, I guess, in order to help them serve the public, they feel like it would streamline that they would be able to collect payments from people better and it would be more efficient to be able to accept credit cards. And by Indiana statutes, the County Council has to authorize county agencies and departments to be able to accept credit cards or certain forms of payment. Now there is a separate statute that governs the Treasurer’s office, so this doesn’t affect that. There was some thought about expanding this to other departments, but given the close of the year and there being so many different circumstances in the various offices, the thought here was to go ahead and just pass a resolution to respond to the requests of the Health Department. If other departments in the future or if the Council wants to consider allowing them to accept credit card payments and such you can do so. And I don’t know, Mr. Heck may be able to explain -- kind of in this resolution, of course, you know, if there’s something that anybody wants to revise, we can certainly do that. But what this ordinance provides is it gives the Health Department and their discretion to determine what forms of payment that are listed there: cash, check, bank draft, money order, credit card, debit card, electronic funds transfer to accept, however the caveat that we’ve put in here is that it is being authorized for the Health Department to accept credit cards and such provided that they collect whatever fees that would be charged by the credit company from the person who chooses to transact with the credit card. So in other words, it’s set up to where it doesn’t cost the county any money, but if someone wants to use that convenience or the Health Department does, they would just add the transaction fee on to the credit card. So I don’t know if you want Mr. Heck to explain or if there’s anything else we want to discuss or if you have questions about.
President Kiefer: I don’t need any further explanation. I do think this is a good thing, allow people to pay with credit cards, for example, and we’re not going to get charged a fee for that. That’s going to get charged back to the person using the credit card. But I’ll open it up to Councilmembers for questions.
Councilmember Raben: I’m just curious how you do that, how do you charge that fee back on the credit card and what percentage or what rate have you gotten?
Gary Heck: Well, the convenience fee can vary depending upon which vendor you choose. There’s several that are out there. We’re still exploring all of the options. The County Treasurer uses a group called Official Payments to accept theirs. There’s one called Pay Gov, there’s Municipal-Pay, there’s Government Net Pay. Under the Government Net Pay, for any transaction from a dollar to fifty dollars, it’s $1.75 convenience fee would be charged. And that convenience fee is paid by the individual who chooses to want to use that method of payment.
President Kiefer: Similar, probably, to the Treasurer, when you pay your taxes it has a convenience fee and it gets added on to the credit card bill.
Gary Heck: And all of the various vendors have it set up where it segregates those dollar amounts and fees so there’s nothing that, the government pays nothing for the service, it’s just if an individual chooses that method of payment, it’s just that’s the cost of doing business to accept it. That’s what it’s all about.
Councilmember Lloyd: Quick point, by law, you cannot make a profit on this, so any fee you would charge the client, you can’t take an extra dollar and stick in the Health department checkbook. I mean, it has to be a pass through, and you’re saying that these providers will set that up for you.
Gary Heck: That’s correct.
Councilmember Lloyd: I think that’s a good thing. I’m sure you have people wanting to pay with a credit card, so it just makes it easier to use the Health Department.
President Kiefer: Motion please?
Councilmember Lloyd: Motion to approve resolution authorizing the Vanderburgh County Health Department to accept credit cards and certain methods of payment.
Councilmember Terry: Second.
President Kiefer: Okay, we have a first and a second. And that resolution number is CO.R-12-11-015. Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: I vote yes because I really do think this is a good way to do business to make it more convenient for our citizens of Vanderburgh County. Thank you, Gary.
Okay, so that’s approved.
Gary Heck: Thank you.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
TRAVEL REQUESTS |
COUNTY ASSESSOR
HIGHWAY
President Kiefer: Next we have travel requests, and it looks like there was two things on here: the Assessor and County Highway, but then I see on the form that we only have the County Assessor’s request. Is there one also from the County Highway?
Councilmember Raben: It was more for informational purposes, I guess.
President Kiefer: Oh, okay. Well, hey, that’s good. No charge. Okay, so what we do have to approve, though, is the County Assessor travel request for $670, and it’s a state called meeting, Indiana County Assessor’s Association Winter Conference. Is there a motion to approve that?
Councilmember Lloyd: Motion to approve as submitted.
Councilmember Bassemier: Second.
President Kiefer: We have a first and a second. Further discussion? Roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
AMENDMENTS TO SALARY ORDINANCE |
President Kiefer: We’re done with new business, amendments to salary ordinance.
Councilmember Raben: Everyone has been given a copy, it’s six pages today. I want to call attention to the Prosecutor, the first paragraph should be X’d out and should not be included in this motion. So my motion is, Mr. President, that the amendments to the salary ordinance that are in front of us be made part of the minutes.
President Kiefer: Okay, first by Councilman Raben.
Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
President Kiefer: Second by Councilman Lloyd. Any further discussion? Seeing none, roll call please.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Terry?
Councilmember Terry: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier?
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Shetler?
Councilmember Shetler: Aye.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?
Councilmember Goebel: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes.
Teri Lukeman: President Kiefer?
President Kiefer: Yes. So approved.
(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
PUBLIC COMMENT |
President Kiefer: Finally, this is something I remember Councilman Lloyd started, I think it’s a good idea, public comment. Is there anybody in the public that would like to make a comment? Seeing none, I ask for a motion to adjourn.
Councilmember Lloyd: So moved.
President Kiefer: Okay. We are adjourned.
(There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned at 9:24 a.m.)
VANDERBURGH COUNTY COUNCIL
Councilmember Russell Lloyd, Jr. Councilmember Mike Goebel
Councilmember Stephanie Terry
Recorded and transcribed by Teri Lukeman.