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Budget Hearings August 17, 18, 19, 1999 President Wortman: The Vanderburgh County Council will reconvene from the recess of last week, that would be August 12, I believe. We will convene and so we will open the meeting by calling the roll call to see who is present and who is not. Madame Secretary. (Teri Lukeman called roll)
President Wortman: Would you all please stand and Pledge Allegiance? Pledge of Allegiance was given. President Wortman: Okay, we will start off and the first on the agenda will be the County Clerk and we will proceed with the Finance Chairman reading them off. If there is any clarification I think the Finance Chairman should or might ask for it. Or if anybody asks, we will ask the Finance Chairman. Otherwise, if everything is pretty well, I hope, was hashed out last week. With no further things to do, I think finally, Mr. Raben, will you proceed with the County Clerk, page 1? COUNTY CLERK Councilmember Raben: I sure will, Mr. President. Turn to page 4 line 1680-1010, line 1690-1010, line 1700-1010 set in at zero. All other salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance adjustments will be made at our September 1st final hearing and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Okay, that’s the first on the salaries. Do I have a second to that motion? Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Sutton seconded. Any discussion? No discussion, have a roll call vote. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now, we will proceed to the next account, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Okay, 2600 Office Supplies $50,000. Page 5, 3120 Postage and Freight $250; 3540 Maintenance Contract $20,000; 3700 $500. All others as submitted and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Okay, can I have a second to that effect? Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Sutton seconded. Any discussion on this, on the Clerk? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes.
Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman? President Wortman: Yes? Councilmember Smith: I just wanted to remind you all that this is a $554,064.89 increase over four years. President Wortman: Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Smith. Okay, now we will go to the next office. It will be page 68, the Election Office. ELECTION OFFICE Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, 1140-1210 Canvassing Board $1,800; 1210 $1,500. All other salaries, FICA, PERF adjusted at our September 1st meeting. Skip down to 2290 $600. Page 69 line 3410 $52,600. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Okay, do I have a second on that? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Lloyd seconded. Any other discussion on this for the Election Board? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes.
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay. Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman? President Wortman: Yes, ma’am. Councilmember Smith: That’s a $122,750.66 increase over four years. President Wortman: Okay, alright. Excuse me, do we have somebody keeping track of these figures? We ought to keep, so that we know what our cuts are. Councilmember Raben: Yes, we’ll-- President Wortman: We ought to be adding them up so that we know where we are at here. Councilmember Raben: Okay, we will do that at break. President Wortman: You want to do that later? Okay, I didn’t want to over cut. THE CENTRE President Wortman: Okay, next on that is The Centre, page 109. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance to be set in at our September 1st meeting. All 2000, 3000 and 4000 accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second to that effect? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Any discussion? Marsha Abell: Did you say page 109? Councilmember Raben: Yeah, we are finished with you. President Wortman: Yeah, you can be excused, Mrs. Abell. Marsha Abell: Well, do I get to make a comment on the cuts that you made or is that not allowed? President Wortman: Well, you can comment if you want to. Yeah, go ahead. I just didn’t think that you had any, but go ahead. Councilmember Raben: Uh, wait just a second, let’s finish this motion. President Wortman: Okay, let’s finish this and then we will come back to you. Councilmember Raben: Let’s stay in order here. President Wortman: Okay, go ahead. We’ve got a motion and a second. Any more discussion on that? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
COUNTY CLERK (Continued) Marsha Abell: I wanted to make some comments about my supply budget. I see that you have drastically cut that down to $50,000. I don’t think there is a person in this room that truly believes that the Vanderburgh County Courts can operate on $50,000 a year. I passed out one purchase order that will show you that our fee books cost $310 a piece. That is an invoice, that is not a quote. Last year those very same books from the very same vendor cost $220 to $230 a piece. Our child support checks have gone up $3,000 for every time that we order them. We order them four times a year, that is a $12,000 increase over that. We made up 44,359 new files in `98. We are going to hit 50,000 easily in the year 2000. If I only spent $1 a piece to make a new file that is the entire $50,000 budget. Files alone costs more than a $1 to make up. We have to do all of the notice, all of the files, all the copies. I know that you know I am not going to be able to operate on this kind of money. I think it is ridiculous to expect that I have to return again this year and ask for more money just because you don’t want to agree to fund it here when statutorily you have to fund the supplies in the Clerk’s Office. It seems like it has become a game to just -- I wasn’t surprised that you cut out the employees, but you can be assured that if you keep adding staff, Judges and Magistrates, you will have to increase my staff. There is no way that we can keep up with it. But there is absolutely no reason for cutting my supply budget down to $50,000. There is no possibility that I can get by on that. President Wortman: Do you have any comment, Mr. Raben, on that? Councilmember Raben: The only comment that I have, Marsha, is that there is, along with this cut, there will be several others today and the rest of this week. I am sure that will be argued at some point. Our mission this week is to submit a budget that falls within our freeze limitations. We understand that several of the cuts that we will make in the next two days, or three days, we’ll probably see these folks again, but we have always understood that and that’s the way this Council has always operated. In making the cuts that I am going to attempt to make over the next three days should leave us a healthy operating balance for next year. If we see you, you know, we all understand that. You know, we are quite aware that we may see you and several other departments over the course of the next year or so. That’s really all that I have to say. Marsha Abell: It just doesn’t seem like an annual budget, because it is not an annual budget. President Wortman: Thank you, Mrs. Abell. Next, we will keep moving here, the Convention Center Operating Fund, 181, please. CONVENTION CENTER OPERATING FUND Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I’ll move that this entire budget be approved as listed. President Wortman: Do I have a second to that effect? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second, okay. Any discussion? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: We’re on 109, right? Teri Lukeman. 101. Councilmember Sutton: Oh, 101, excuse me. 181? Teri Lukeman: 181. Councilmember Hoy: Yeah, 181. President Wortman: Hold on just a minute for Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Sutton: Okay, yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) LEVEE AUTHORITY President Wortman: Okay, now we will turn to page 182, the next page. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I will approve of this budget as listed. Again, I have to emphasize that the salary, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at our final September 1st meeting. Councilmember Hoy: I second the motion. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Hoy. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman, were you going to make note of the change to Insurance and Workers Compensation as changed in the-- President Wortman: Adjusted accordingly,
I think he mentioned that.
President Wortman: This is part of the joint budget, but I forget what percentage it is, but Mr. Lawrence-- Kelly Lawrence: It’s not a percentage. We are a separate entity and separate tax base. I didn’t hear your question. Teri Lukeman: Do you want to change the amount for Workman’s Compensation from what was submitted into the budget? I have $13,871. Councilmember Raben: Teri, what I intended to do was make those adjustments, all salary, PERF, insurance, FICA, Workman’s Comp-- Teri Lukeman: During the September 1-- Councilmember Raben: --all that in the final September 1st meeting. Teri Lukeman: Okay. President Wortman: That will be the same on all the budget -- departments, Kelly Lawrence: But the city is self-insured on their side of the Workman’s Comp-- Teri Lukeman: Okay, but then there was also a change in the Telephone account, in the 3000 accounts, is that not correct? Councilmember Raben: I have not been brought aware of that. Councilmember Smith: Where would those changes come from because they are not changed here? Teri Lukeman: In the joint budget meetings there was a handout. I have some different figures that were in there because these were preliminary figures that were submitted. Councilmember Lloyd: Would we like someone to read those off? Councilmember Bassemier: Kelly, have you made any changes? Kelly Lawrence: No. You have $13,871 for Workman’s Comp? Teri Lukeman: Right, Mr. Raben said that he would adjust them on September 1. Kelly Lawrence: The Telephone account? Teri Lukeman: That was account 3140 and I had -- they had submitted $9,000 originally but then there was supposed to be a $6,000 change, I believe. Kelly Lawrence: Right. Teri Lukeman: Is the $6,000 the amount that you agreed on in the joint budget hearings? Kelly Lawrence: I believe so. Teri Lukeman: Okay. Councilmember Raben: From 9 to $6,000?
Or $6,000 in addition?
Councilmember Raben: Okay, just a minute. Mr. President, I will amend my motion to read, once again, all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance, workman’s comp will be set in at our September 1 meeting. All other line items, with the exception of 3140 Telephone should read $6,000 be approved as submitted. President Wortman: Okay. Mr. Hoy, do you accept this amendment? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. President Wortman: Okay, we have the amendment to the motion. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Thank you, Kelly, I appreciate it. Kelly Lawrence: Thank you. AIRPORT AUTHORITY President Wortman: Next, will be the Vanderburgh County Airport, page 144. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I move that all salaries, wages, FICA, PERF, unemployment insurance will be set in September 1st. All 2000, 3000 and 4000 accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Second? Councilmember Bassemier: Second. President Wortman: Okay, second by Mr. Ed. Okay, any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Okay, thank you, Mr. Working. HEALTH DEPARTMENT President Wortman: Next, on the agenda is the Health Department, 138. Mr. Finance Chairman. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I will move that all salaries, FICA, PERF, insurance and workman’s comp be set in at the September 1st meeting. The rest of the budget as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, Mrs. Smith. Any discussion on this? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) SURVEYOR President Wortman: Okay, we will move right on to the Surveyor, page 29. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I move that all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance be set in at our September 1st meeting. Line 2210 Gas and Oil be set in at $800; 2220 $300; 2230 $500. Turn to page 30, those accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second by Mrs. Smith. Any discussion on the Surveyor? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
SURVEYOR CORNER PERPETUATION FUND President Wortman: Let’s turn to page 171, Surveyor Corner Perpetuation Fund. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, salary and FICA adjustments for the September 1st meeting, all other accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) MAP FUND President Wortman: Now we will turn to page 148, the Map Fund. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I move approval of this budget as listed. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, Mr. Hoy. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) AREA PLAN COMMISSION President Wortman: Okay, that completes that now and we will go to the Area Plan Commission, page 74. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at our September 1st meeting. Page 75, line item 3130 $1,500; line item 3610 $60,000. Turn to page 76, line item 4230 zero; and 4250 $5,000. I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Second. Okay, any discussion? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
SUPERIOR COURT President Wortman: Superior Court, page 168. No, I’m sorry, page 199. Councilmember Raben: Mr, President, turn to page 100. Line 1302-1370 zero; line 1350-1370 zero. Page 102, line 1610-1370 zero. All other salaries-- Councilmember Hoy: Are you leaving that Public Defender in? Councilmember Raben: Excuse me.
Councilmember Raben: 1661 is already in place. All other salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance -- excuse me, before I go on, skip down to 1990 Extra Help $2,000. Now all other salaries, FICA, PERF, insurance will be adjusted at our September 1st meeting and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Councilmember Smith: Jim, did you say 1990, what’s the bottom line figure there? Councilmember Raben: The 1990 Extra Help, $2,000. Councilmember Smith: $2,000, okay. Thank you. President Wortman: Okay, any other discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, continue, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: On page 168, Supplemental Adult Probation. President Wortman: Did you finish? Councilmember Raben: Oh, no I did not. I am sorry. I broke that one up, I’m sorry, excuse me. Let’s stay on page 104, line 2230 Garage and Motor $2,000; 2270 $7,500; 2600 $18,000; 2700 $4,000. Page 105, line 3520 $10,000; line 3932 $29,700; line 3943 $40,000; line 4210 zero. All other accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: I have a second. Okay. Any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
SUPPLEMENTAL ADULT PROBATION President Wortman: Okay, that completes Superior Court and let’s go to page 168. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salary line items and benefits will be set in at the September 1st meeting. All other lines as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, Mrs. Smith. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Now, we will turn to page-- Councilmember Smith: Pardon me. President Wortman: Excuse me, Mrs. Smith. Councilmember Smith: On the -- I have a notation here this was a copy machine at 3930 Other Contractual. Councilmember Raben: What page is that? Councilmember Smith: It is on 169. It was in there, the copy machine, we had cut that down to -- I don’t know where I got it, $8,000.00, and it is $15,000 here. Councilmember Raben: I don’t remember any discussion on that, but if you are asking-- Councilmember Smith: I am asking is it left at $15,000 or $8,000? I didn’t know. Suzanne Crouch: Right now it is at $15,000 Councilmember Raben: Right now it is at $15,000. Councilmember Smith: You are going to leave it at $15,000? Because I think they told us that was for a copy machine. Councilmember Sutton: The copy machine was seven on that and some other items, I didn’t list them on there, photos were in there as well. Councilmember Raben: I don’t have my rationale with me. Councilmember Smith: So, it is $15,000? Councilmember Hoy: Yeah, I have copier at seven and other things-- President Wortman: It was a combination of things, if I recall, like Mr. Sutton said. Okay, any other discussion? Councilmember Smith: Okay. President Wortman: Call the roll, please. Suzanne Crouch: You already did that. Councilmember Smith: We’ve already done that. President Wortman: Oh, it already passed, I’m sorry. DRUG AND ALCOHOL DEFERRAL President Wortman: Let’s go to 107. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at our September 1st meeting. Skip down to line 3370 $500. Page 108, 3930 $1,000. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Hoy seconded. Any discussion? Councilmember Sutton: One more time on that last one. Councilmember Raben: Okay, 3930 $1,000. I will slow down, Betty, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize I was going too fast. Councilmember Sutton: I just didn’t get the page flipped. President Wortman: Any more discussion? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman. That $1,000 was for the contract for cleaning his office. So he may have to come back if he has a contract with those people that cleans -- that is cleaning his office over there in the Courts Building. Councilmember Raben: I have a note that I thought he had adjusted it. Councilmember Smith: I think he has got somebody that comes in and cleans your office. Bill, isn’t that $2,000 for-- Bill Campbell: Yes, it is. One part of it-- Councilmember Lloyd: We need him to come up front. President Wortman: Mr., would you come forward, please? Bill Campbell: You didn’t name off
who you were doing. I was sitting there trying to keep up.
Bill Campbell: I am Bill Campbell-- Councilmember Smith: Line item 3930 and it was $2,000 and I think that was the contract that he had to clean those offices. Bill Campbell: There were two of them. One to clean the office and the increase was to cover the cleaning of the carpets, that they no longer provided that service. The ones that we have the contract, and still do for weekly cleaning, Mrs. Smith, they don’t clean carpets. We have never had them cleaned and we were hoping to do that on a reasonably regular-- Councilmember Smith: We can come back after the first of the year, but we will have to put more money back in that one. Councilmember Raben: That’s fine. I had a note, I thought that you had told us to decrease it. Bill Campbell: I’m sorry. Councilmember Smith: Okay. Councilmember Hoy: That $1,000 will cover your normal cleaning and you need the other $1,000 for the carpets, is that correct? Bill Campbell: Yeah, but we will come back. I don’t have any problem coming back. I am here every day anyway. But now can we back up to the other cuts, I’m sorry, I didn’t get them. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, we really need to finish our vote. Councilmember Lloyd: Mr. President, we need to vote. President Wortman: I knew that we stopped somewhere over the line. Councilmember Raben: We stopped over there. Councilmember Sutton: You didn’t get to vote. President Wortman: You three voted, didn’t you? Councilmember Sutton: Everybody voted but you, it stopped with Russ. Councilmember Lloyd: I voted yes. President Wortman: I have to vote
yes then.
Councilmember Raben: Okay, now-- President Wortman: I wasn’t sure where
we stopped off at. Now repeat that for Mr. Campbell so that he understands
that, Jim.
Bill Campbell: Okay. What about 3700? Councilmember Raben: I’m sorry? Bill Campbell: 3700? Councilmember Hoy: Didn’t cut it. Councilmember Raben: No change, just those two cuts. President Wortman: Okay, Mr. Campbell, you accept like Betty Knight Smith said for next year possibly. Bill Campbell: Pardon? President Wortman: You accept the idea from Mrs. Smith on coming back possibly? Bill Campbell: Oh, yeah, no problem. Councilmember Smith: Well, I didn’t think that it was enough because when he came and explained it to us when we gave him some money, he said that they were having to have somebody come in and clean it and he needed the money and I remembered that is what it was for. Bill Campbell: It is and I don’t know how many times we will have to have the carpet cleaned. We just had it for the first time ever about a month ago. President Wortman: Just tell them to keep their feet clean before they come in. Thank you. Okay, next on the agenda will be the Sheriff and we are going to change tapes. Tape Change SHERIFF President Wortman: Okay, Sheriff, page 14. Proceed, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President. Turn to page 20. Line 1130-0115 Patrolman zero. Councilmember Smith: Jim, the school is not going to fund part of that? President Wortman: They’re still working on it, so right now we’ll have to set it in at zero and we’ve got until September 1st. Councilmember Smith: Oh, okay. President Wortman: Yeah, thank you, Mrs. Smith. Councilmember Raben: Okay, line 1210-1050 $45,000. Councilmember Lloyd: You weren’t supposed to do that were you? Councilmember Sutton: Where at?
President Wortman: What page are you on, Jim? Councilmember Raben: We’re going to page 22, I’m sorry. Let’s skip down to line 1550-1050. This is the Community Corrections Salary Adjustment. Set that in at $20,000. Now there are other -- there are commitments made to the Sheriff and two Chief Deputies, which we will make those adjustments in their salary lines in September. We’ll shift that to their salary accounts in September. All other FICA, PERF, insurance, benefits will be adjusted in the September 1st meeting and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Everybody understands that now? Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman? President Wortman: Yes. Councilmember Smith: At the time when they set up the contract and everything I think Joe Harrison wanted that amount of money put in and if you’re taking it all out you’re taking out $240,000. Councilmember Raben: Okay. Councilmember Smith: Or $230,000. Councilmember Raben: No, we’re not actually taking that. We’re shifting the eight percent onto the salary lines for two Chief Deputies and the $35,000 onto the Sheriff’s salary line. Councilmember Smith: Okay, okay. Councilmember Raben: We’re going to put those amounts where they should be with their salary. Councilmember Smith: Okay. Councilmember Hoy: Why don’t you go ahead and mention what those are, Jim. Councilmember Raben: I don’t have those figures. Councilmember Hoy: I have the Sheriff’s line, if this is correct, at $103,579. Councilmember Raben: Right. Councilmember Hoy: Instead of $68,579 and the Chief Deputy is at $59,994, I believe. Councilmember Raben: Right. Councilmember Hoy: If I have these correct. Councilmember Raben: And then you
would have to go to page 20 and on 1130-0114 that corrected figure would
be $57,391. Again, we’ll make those adjustments in September.
Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Jim, why do we want to wait until September on that? I mean, it’s the same affect. Councilmember Raben: That’s when we set in all salaries and FICA, PERF and insurance. Councilmember Sutton: Okay. Councilmember Raben: We actually, for instance like insurance, the insurance companies don’t even have any finalized numbers to us, so they’re under the gun to have it by September the 1st. That’s how this Board has always done it. We’ve always set salaries and benefits on September the 1st. Councilmember Hoy: Mr. Raben, as I understand it your motion is for setting these in at a four percent increase generally speaking with some exceptions, so that is really the intention of the motion, is it not? Councilmember Raben: Well-- Councilmember Lloyd: Until September 1. Councilmember Raben: Yeah, September 1-- Councilmember Sutton: I guess what my thought process is, I know I need to take a vote, but my thought process here is we’re cutting it out of the one line item and didn’t add it to the other, you know. At some point in time we’re coming back and we’re going to put money back in there. Councilmember Raben: The actual cut as it is, okay, the actual cut from that $250,000 line item is $192,070. Councilmember Sutton: Just contractually I want to make sure we-- Councilmember Raben: That’s really not the appropriate line number for their salaries, so we’ll just-- Councilmember Smith: You said you had moved the $35,000 into his line item. That’s taking that out of the $250,000. Brad Ellsworth: Brad Ellsworth, Sheriff’s Department. I think what happened was in preparation of this takeover, this transfer, Mr. Wortman and Mr. Harrison thought that I might need an amount of money thinking that I might have a lot of staff going over there, Lieutenants, Captains or whatever, so that was kind of a preparatory move to put money over there in case I did. The agreement that we came to was let me and the Chiefs get in there first, dissect the place and then at a more appropriate time probably come back and say here are my staffing needs and this was that money there and we’re not opposed at all to reducing that because it may take us a year to come back and say, you know, we need some different staff. Is that the way you understand it, Mr. Wortman? President Wortman: That’s exactly right, thank you. Councilmember Raben: It still leaves $20,000 for unforeseen emergencies that they may run into. Brad, you and everyone is clear on the other? Brad Ellsworth: Absolutely. Councilmember Hoy: And you’re okay with this? Brad Ellsworth: Yes. It was more than generous and hopefully we won’t need any of it. President Wortman: Okay, everybody -- Mr. Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes, okay. President Wortman: Everybody understand that then? Yeah, see like I say you took the three salaries out of that and put them in their perspective line items and then left $20,000 in there for operating, so okay, call the roll please. Councilmember Sutton: It falls with me, so I am voting yes. President Wortman: Okay, I’m sorry. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, proceed, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Line 2220 $12,000; 2230 $65,000. All other line items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mrs. Smith.
Any discussion? Call the roll please.
Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
JAIL President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 25, the Jail. Proceed, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Okay, page 27 line 1130-0406 Paramedic zero. All other salaries, FICA, PERF, insurance will be adjusted and set in at the September 1st meeting and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion on this? Councilmember Smith: Question. We’re cutting out the paramedic, but he needs that and before this budget is finished I want to make sure that he gets that paramedic. Councilmember Sutton: And the costs
too that are related to what we are already spending in other line items
because we don’t have this position, I guess that is my concern that we
are not just really essentially shifting what will be a burden on the county
to another line item in expenses we are incurring by having the service
occurring other places. We can easily show some cost savings here by putting
in that position.
Councilmember Smith: Maybe they don’t understand what a paramedic is. A paramedic can get on that telephone and talk to that doctor and give a shot or do whatever is necessary to be done and I feel like Brad needs that in the jail. I talked to him. I went down and talked to him to see if the EMT -- maybe he could eliminate the EMT and he said the EMT was very busy along with the nurse because at the time -- but the paramedic would be on the third shift when there wouldn’t be anybody else around, so I just want you to know we’re going to keep after that one. Brad Ellsworth: If I could make a quick comment about our medical staff. Things are changing a little bit in what is acceptable practice and what is not any more. When I came on 17 years ago it was not uncommon for me to take the medicine tray that was set up by the nurse or doctor coming in and pass that around and administer medicine myself as well as everybody else in here and that basically is illegal for a corrections officer, a jailer, sergeant, no matter what cannot administer medicine, so that has to be by a medical person now. This doesn’t have a whole lot to do with it, but times are changing and we have to keep up with that. The paramedic, we asked for that because we think an inordinate amount of our hospital runs are culminating or generating from third shift and we don’t have medical people onboard trying to look at it as a person who can assess that patient, do they have to go to the hospital or is there something I can do on the phone and hopefully save some of those ambulance runs. It’s about $400 a pop or more. Councilmember Raben: Betty, I had brought up last week and again I had mentioned it, Sam Elder was not, and I think he had already left the room last week when I brought it up, and I mentioned it to him this morning about the possibility at some point moving all these four, and at that time if you want to add a fifth one, but moving those nurses and paramedics to the Health Department budget. Councilmember Smith: Who are they going to answer to, the Sheriff or the Health Department? Councilmember Raben: Well, they would answer to the Sheriff. Councilmember Smith: Not really if they come under the other budget. Councilmember Raben: Well, it’s just like the Ozone Officer answers to the County Commissioners, but he said he would be willing to look into that and he thought there was a strong possibility that shift could happen and that would alleviate, you know, $100,000 plus off of our General Fund budget and put it on a separate levy. He said that he would look into that. Brad Ellsworth: I mean, as long as I have the people doing the job you can pay them anywhere you want to. That doesn’t matter to me. That’s for you fiscal people. President Wortman: Yeah, okay. Thanks, Brad, I appreciate it. Okay, any other discussion? That was a good thought about the paramedic. Okay, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Just as long as we can get some word back from Sam on that. The final word on that. Councilmember Raben: Again, he and I just discussed it a little bit ago. Councilmember Sutton: Okay. Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Brad, we’re going to try to work that paramedic in sometime down the road. We feel like you need it. I’m going to vote yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: I’ll echo the sentiments of Mr. Sutton and Mr. Bassemier. If we can’t work it in through the Health Department we will work it in because he has got to have it. But I’ll vote yes at this time. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. Yes, and I
think the same thing. I echo the same remarks. I think that’s a very needed
position.
President Wortman: Okay, Mr. Raben proceed. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I did state that all other -- in that motion that all other salaries, insurance, benefits and whatnots will be addressed September the 1st. Page 28 line 2300 Uniforms should read $10,000. That’s an increase of $7,500. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: I’ve got a second. Discussion? Just a minute, Mr. Ahlers. He is going to state that we have to have five votes on this. Jeff Ahlers: Six, because it takes three quarters to increase a line item, so I just want everybody to know ahead of time. Councilmember Raben: No, to increase a budget. Jeff Ahlers: No, to increase a line item above that which was placed in their preliminary estimate to the Auditor’s Office. I just wanted you to know in case you wanted to take it separate or to make sure everybody knows it takes three quarters which is six because that is 5.75 or something like that. President Wortman: I don’t think we’ll have any problem with this. Councilmember Smith: I think we’ve got the six. President Wortman: Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: There could be some jokes about who is the .75, but yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Definitely yes.
JAIL MISDEMEANOR HOUSING President Wortman: Okay, now we’ll go to Jail Misdemeanor Housing. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salaries, benefits, FICA, PERF will be set in September 1st and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Sutton. Any suggestions or discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?
Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) CONVENTION & VISITORS BUREAU President Wortman: Okay, now we’ll go to the Convention & Visitors Bureau, page 177. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, all salaries, benefits will be set in at our September 1st meeting. All other lines as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Got a motion and a second. Discussion? The only thing is they’re not set under the salary direction of the Council. Councilmember Lloyd: Yeah, the fiscal body has to approve their budget. Jeff Ahlers: Including salaries, but what I didn’t know is we had this discussion a year ago whether they get an automatic four percent increase. I didn’t know if you dealt with that separate or do it the same as what they put it in at. Councilmember Raben: We’ll deal with it in September. President Wortman: Okay, got a motion-- Councilmember Smith: Don’t they come under the same four percent increase that ours does? Councilmember Sutton: It’s a different levy. Councilmember Raben: No, last year we voted to let them go on their own. They introduced a points or incentive program. Councilmember Smith: But I thought
Joy came back and said that they were going to try to go back with us.
Maybe I misunderstood it.
Councilmember Hoy: Some of these listed here are less than four actually and some are more than four. It’s a merit system that they have, but as I recall when we cut this loose it virtually gave us carte blanche on doing whatever we want. I don’t think we’re going to slice them. Councilman Bassemier: Mr. President. President Wortman: Yes, sir. Councilman Bassemier: Jim, you say you let them go on their own. That part is true, but the other part still takes final approval by the County Council. Councilmember Raben: Oh, exactly, right. Jeff Ahlers: Right, I just wanted to point out that it may or may not be an automatic four. It could be four, it could be less or more. I just wanted to make sure that in your motion it wasn’t assumed. Councilmember Raben: Ed, I didn’t let them go on their own, this body did. I will say this on their behalf and I had actually showed this to Councilman Hoy that I was fearful when we did that that we were basically giving them a blank check that everyone in that office would receive a seven percent increase and that wasn’t the case at all. Some of them received two, some of them received less, some of them received four, so I guess whatever they’re doing they are doing it right. Councilmember Smith: Well, now some of them is lower than it was last year. Are they new people? President Wortman: Yeah, if you would come up to the podium, please. Your name and everything. Dolli Kight: Dolli Kight, Convention & Visitors Bureau. Yes, we do have some new staff members. Average, it was about -- our salaries were about two percent, I think, under what we had budgeted for overall because we had new people come onboard. That reflected the salaries, too. Councilmember Smith: Like the Director of Sales, her salary this year or whoever it is, is $31,394 and for 2000 it’s $31,030. That’s less money. Dolli Kight: Right, we had budgeted at the seven percent increase for `99 and we had that staff person leave and the new staff person’s current salary is $29,000. Councilmember Smith: Oh, that’s a new person. Okay. Dolli Kight: Yes. President Wortman: Any other questions? Thank you, appreciate it. Okay, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) TOURISM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT President Wortman: Now we’ll go to page 180, Tourism Capital Improvement. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I’ll move that this budget be approved as listed. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) BOND ISSUE President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 187, the Bond Debt Repayment. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 5596-- Suzanne Crouch: Ninety-seven. Councilmember Raben: --as listed and 5597 zero and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Sutton. Okay, any discussion on that? No smelly discussion? Okay, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
AUDITOR President Wortman: Okay, page 6 for the County Auditor. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, all salaries, FICA, PERF, insurance will be adjusted at our September 1st meeting. Page 8, line 3401 Microfilming zero and if the General Fund can bear it maybe towards the end of this year if we’ve got half of that she might ask that we look at giving her an appropriation for maybe half of that, you know, the latter part of this year. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second. Any discussion? No discussion on the Auditor. Call the roll please. Councilmember Smith: I’m sorry. You took out that $50,000 in 3401? Okay. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
AUDITOR REASSESSMENT President Wortman: Now, turn to page 149, Auditor Reassessment. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, move down to line 1020-3401 to be set in at zero. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Any discussion on that? Councilmember Lloyd: I think it’s fair. President Wortman: Fair, okay. Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, that completes today’s budget and we’re going to recess until tomorrow which is the 18th of August and we’ll have it from 12:00 to 3:00. Councilmember Hoy: I would like to know who sent me the gift. I would like to send a thank you note, Mr. President. It’s such a lovely package. Councilmember Sutton: Oh, you can just put it on the record. Councilmember Hoy: I do have a duct tape repair at home that I’m going to take care of. President Wortman: Thanks everybody. Go home safely so you can get back tomorrow. Meeting recessed at 1:05. BUDGET HEARINGS AUGUST 18, 1999 The Vanderburgh County Council met in session this 18th day of August, 1999 in Room 301 of the Civic Center Complex. The meeting was officially reconvened by President Curt Wortman at 12:08 p.m. President Wortman: The Vanderburgh County Council is going to be in session from the recess from yesterday, which was the 17th of August. We’ll proceed now with the budget process for the 18th and we’ll take attendance here for the Council. Madam Secretary, if you would please, take your time calling them. (Teri Lukeman called roll)
President Wortman: Okay, that completes all but one, Mr. Hoy, and he is on his way. I guess while we’re waiting and, of course, first on the agenda will be the Division of Family and Children Services. Councilmember Smith: Are we going to do the Pledge of Allegiance? President Wortman: Yeah, just a minute. Yeah, let’s do that now. Let’s do that now. Let’s all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you. The Pledge of Allegiance was given. President Wortman: Thank you, Betty. Yesterday, the 17th, we had a total of $701,015 cuts, 701,015. Of course, the PERF was $26,183 and reduction was $674,832. With that in mind, I’ll guess we’ll ask the gentleman -- he was in the front row -- from Family Services, I thought to come forward and he disappeared. DIVISION OF FAMILY & CHILDREN Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I don’t think any of us probably have any more questions, do we? President Wortman: On the Welfare if nobody else does. Councilmember Raben: I’m going to make a motion, Mr. President, that this budget be adopted as listed. Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Got a motion and
a second. Any discussion? Now that’s page 136 everybody. Okay, no discussion.
Call the roll please for approval.
Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 6-0) COUNTY WELFARE President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to account number 2041 which is page 135. Mr. Raben, if you might-- Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I’ll move approval of page 135 as listed. Councilmember Smith: Second. Councilmember Raben: Okay, any discussion on this? I think today I’m going to insert this, when you read that, Mr. Raben, kind of go slow so the ladies can keep track. We got a little speedy yesterday and they had a little time keeping up, so if we could just kind of slow down a little bit, but I like speed, you know. But that’s alright, so if you can until we get them and then we’ll ask for clarification. Councilman Bassemier: You’re blaming it on him. President Wortman: Yeah, I’m blaming it on him, see, and the girls are blaming it on me, see, which I’m alright. Okay, no other discussion then? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes.
Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. Mr. Hoy is present now, so you can ask for his vote and explain it to him. Mr. Hoy, what we just approved is page 135, the County Welfare. Did you have any questions on that? And the first one, the Division of Family and Childrens Services. Councilmember Hoy: No, I’ll vote yes on both. President Wortman: Okay, thank you, I appreciate it. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) Councilmember Sutton: That bag doesn’t look big enough, Mr. Hoy. That bag doesn’t look big enough that you brought in. No, the other bag. The brown one. COUNTY RECORDER President Wortman: Okay, now we’ll proceed to page 12 the County Recorder. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I will make a motion that all salaries, FICA, PERF, insurance be set in at our September 1st meeting. All other budget items as listed and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, Mr. Lloyd. Okay, any discussion on that? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd?
Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) VOTERS REGISTRATION President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 70, Voters Registration. Councilmember Raben: Okay, I’ll move approval -- well, excuse me. I move that all salary items, benefits, FICA, PERF will be set in at our September 1st meeting. All other items as they appear and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: We’ve got a second, Mr. Sutton. Any discussion on Voters Registration? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) COOPERATIVE EXTENSION President Wortman: Okay, now if you’ll turn your book to Cooperative Extension Service, page 72. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, move down to 1220-1230. I move that it be set in at zero. Extra help $6,000. All other salaries and benefit packages will be set in at our September 1st meeting. Skip down to line 2600 $5,000; 3130 be set in at $6,000; 3200 $4,000; 3370 $3,300 and that would be for four computer packages; 3530 $55,718, that would be at a four percent increase; and line 4220 $8,000 and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second from Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? Mrs. Smith. Councilmember Smith: (Inaudible) on 4220 they had asked for $41,000. President Wortman: Turn your microphones on everybody, thank you. Councilmember Smith: I’m sorry. Councilmember Raben: My book shows $11,000 request. Councilmember Smith: Okay, so you cut that to what? Councilmember Raben: $8,000. Councilmember Smith: $8,000? Councilmember Raben: You are talking about Office Machines, correct? Councilmember Smith: Okay, thank you. President Wortman: Okay, any more discussion from any Councilmembers? If not, you secretaries have your written down figures, so let’s call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
BURDETTE PARK President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 112, Burdette Park. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, move down to 1180-1450 Other Employees $360,000; 1190-1450 $45,000. All other salary lines along with FICA, PERF and insurance would be set in at our September 1st meeting. Let’s skip down to the bottom of page 113, line 2550 $4,000. Page 114, the middle of the page, 3140 $2,000. I’ll repeat that 3140 $2,000. Skip down to page 115, 4080 zero; 4110 zero, 4120 zero; 4130 $2,000; and 4230 zero with an explanation as I think everyone is aware that there are appropriations filed for the Pool Improvements, Land Improvements and Buildings next month, so we will be funding those this year if it receives the support of this body next month. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second. Okay, Mr. Raben, let’s see, line item 4120 you set that in at what, zero? Councilmember Raben: At zero. President Wortman: At zero. And 4130? Councilmember Raben: $2,000. President Wortman: $2,000, okay. Okay, any other discussion? Councilmember Lloyd: In 4080, how much was that, zero? Councilmember Raben: Zero, correct. Those first three items in the 4000 accounts are zero. Councilmember Sutton: Also on line item 4230, Councilman Raben, on Motor Vehicles was there -- is that coming out of this year or no? Councilmember Raben: Well, that would be up to this body. If there are funds, I know there are several other -- or a large request for the Sheriff’s Department for cars yet this year. This would probably be a request that we would have to look at after the first of next year. Councilmember Sutton: I know they’ve got a pretty urgent need with this vehicle. The one they’ve got it has seen a lot better days and given the operations that they have out there it’s a pretty good need for it. Councilmember Raben: I won’t argue the need. This is just a cut that is necessary to reach our objective and I would certainly be very supportive after the first of the year to make that appropriation. Councilmember Hoy: Mr. President? Councilmember Lloyd: Mr. President. President Wortman: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, Mr. Lloyd. Councilmember Hoy: I would like to have the Director of Burdette comment on that if you would please, on the vehicle. Steve Craig: I had commented earlier last week that we have a `78 pickup truck that we use daily and it is shot. What we was trying to do was get our maintenance man a truck that he could work out of without running all over the park to get tools and that. We wanted to put our welder and our compressor on it and everything and we are in desperate need of a utility truck for the park. Councilman Bassemier: Is that something that we could get in this budget? Councilmember Hoy: If we were able to do that. I’m not sure we can this year or the first of next year. How would that sound to you? Steve Craig: That would sound fine. Councilmember Hoy: I’m not promising that. I’m just saying, you know, that’s how it looks. Steve Craig: As soon as we could afford it I would appreciate the help. Councilmember Hoy: And Mr. Wortman is going to let me shop for it and it won’t cost as much. Steve Craig: That’s a good idea. President Wortman: That truck, it just drives around on the grounds, is that correct? You don’t take it out of the grounds do you? Steve Craig: Well, we would use the new truck -- if you had to run to town to get parts and that, yeah. The old truck I really don’t like to take it to town because it’s not that kind of truck. President Wortman: That’s what I mean. If it broke down it would be on the grounds, it wouldn’t harm anything and be stuck on the road or something? Steve Craig: No. President Wortman: Well, we’ll see how things go between now and the first of the year. If there is ample money why it might be possible to piggyback a truck on the Sheriff’s cars and things like that. We’ll study it over. Okay, any other questions? Councilmember Lloyd: Well, on this
truck, too, I mean that could be a used vehicle right?
President Wortman: We normally go one notch better. Councilmember Raben: That is a hilly environment out there. I mean, even though it is all local or close to home they’ve got a lot of hills to climb so they need something pretty good. Councilmember Sutton: Well, it sounds like you’re doing a pretty good sales job there, Councilman Raben, for a new truck there or some type of vehicle. Maybe if we could take a look, I know we’ve got some things coming up here this year and I don’t know what might be left over this year. Given that this is a 2000 budget and if we were to approve it you wouldn’t be able to get it until next year anyway. If there may be something remaining perhaps maybe that is something we can put on the list of things we might be able to look at. If we can’t get it in maybe this year then next year we can see where we are on our unappropriated General Fund balance and see what we can do on that end. Community Corrections, is there anything from there that might be a possibility for him as well? Councilmember Raben: I think all they have are some vans that they haul workers out onto Highway 41 and to areas that they mow and cut. I don’t know that they’ve got -- he is wanting a pickup truck. Councilmember Sutton: Right. Councilman Bassemier: Mr. President? Jim, are you sure -- I don’t understand those cuts. Those three, 4080, 4110 and 4120. You’re going to cut them out for next year and we’re going to put something in there this year for that? Councilmember Raben: Yeah, Councilman Bassemier. He has an appropriation in place or a request for September, for next month now. Councilman Bassemier: Okay, that’s what I thought you said. Councilmember Raben: On those three items and I think we talked about this last week. If, for instance, Pool Improvements, he has got a lot of repair work, fiberglass work to do on the slide and if he doesn’t get it done this fall it’s going to be difficult to get it done by the spring because temperatures have to be just right to do that type of work. Councilmember Smith: He is asking for $90,960 in appropriations for this fall. You know, that will take care of a lot of what you’re asking for that we’re cutting out now. President Wortman: Okay, now would you repeat that motion just to make sure there are no amendments to the motion? Councilmember Raben: Well, there were no amendments made. I think everybody is clear on it at this point. President Wortman: Okay. Motor Vehicle was set in at zero then, is that correct? Councilmember Raben: Correct. President Wortman: Okay, fine. Does anybody else have any questions? Okay, if not we’ll call the roll and go from there. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes.
Councilmember Sutton: Without forgetting about the truck, yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Thank you. Steve Craig: I had one question. If anybody had any questions on the summary breakdown. Several of them had asked me questions the other day and I had passed a sheet out to everyone, and if they had any questions. President Wortman: Okay, thank you, Mr. Craig, I appreciate it. SUPERINTENDENT OF COUNTY BUILDINGS President Wortman: Now we’ll move to page 88, the Superintendent of County Buildings. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, all 1000 accounts including FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at our September 1st meeting. Line 4120 Buildings $5,000. All other items as submitted and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Second anybody? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Okay, any discussion on that? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
COUNTY HIGHWAY President Wortman: Okay, in reference to the County Highway I was informed by the County Auditor there would be no cuts as of now, is that correct? Yes, so that would have to stay as listed. Go ahead, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, what we’ve done in the past and we can do it one or two ways, we can approve it now or wait until September, but what would you recommend that we do? President Wortman: It don’t make any difference. We can wait until then in case there is something because the gasoline tax evidently has been doing pretty good. Councilmember Raben: The state does make some cuts. We would have to go back and reopen it. President Wortman: Let’s just wait until September if that is agreeable to the other Councilmembers now? Nod your head. Councilmember Smith: That’s County Highway. President Wortman: Yes, ma’am. Nod your head everybody. CUMULATIVE BRIDGE President Wortman: Now we’ll proceed with the Cumulative Bridge Fund, page 129. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I would move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF, insurance will be set in at our September 1st meeting. All other lines as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mrs. Smith. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) LOCAL ROADS AND STREETS President Wortman: Now proceed to page 146, Local Roads and Streets. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 3481 should read $150,569. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Lloyd seconded that. Any discussion on that? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
LEGAL AID President Wortman: Now then proceed to Legal Aid, page 116. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I would move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance would be set in at our September 1st meeting. Skip down to page 117 line 3371 Computer Hardware $8,785. Near the bottom, line 3700 $1,000; 3730 $2,000; 4210 zero. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mrs. Smith. Anybody got any discussion on this? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
LEGAL AID - UNITED WAY President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 185, United Way Legal Aid. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I’ll move that all salary lines and FICA will be set in at our September 1st meeting. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Hoy. Any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes.
Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) CIRCUIT COURT President Wortman: Now we’ll direct our attention to Circuit Court, page 90. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 1200-1360 zero; line 1260-1360 zero; line 1300-1360 zero, yeah, that’s it on salaries. All other salary lines, FICA, PERF, insurance will be approved in our September 1st meeting. Let’s skip down to -- we’ll take it all in one. Skip down to line 2600, it should be set in at $11,000. Page 93, 3944 $45,000 and line 4220 $3,000. All other budget items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman. President Wortman: Yes, ma’am. Councilmember Smith: I think when the judge was here he said by state law that they did need another public defender and I guess you’re aware that Circuit Court judge could mandate that he has one and before this is over I would like for us to give him that public defender because he needs it. That was the line item 1200-1360. Councilman Bassemier: I would like to work on that, too, in the near future. Councilmember Smith: That office is growing and growing and growing and he needs that. He could mandate it, so I would hate to see him do that when we could very well give it to him because he agreed to cut some out of the budget if we would give him that public defender and that public defender will probably only cost us $14,000 if we do that. President Wortman: That’s right. Councilmember Smith: I know that we
have got a freeze on employees, but sometimes it is necessary.
Councilmember Hoy: Just a short comment on that. The Commissioners have set a process on changing the public defender’s setup or whatever they call that and should that occur that would provide -- we would have some state funds coming back and it looks like they would put that in motion and we’re not sure how long that will take. It may move fairly rapidly and if it does then that would help cover this. Councilmember Smith: But if it doesn’t-- Councilmember Hoy: Well, we could add it then. That’s a position we could add if it doesn’t cover it, but I think-- Councilman Bassemier: Jim. Councilmember Hoy: --we might want to be cautious in adding it since that process has been -- it was a unanimous vote by the Commissioners. I was there. So if that goes down the road at a fairly fast speed, then, you know, we may not need to address this and we would still have time to address this if that doesn’t happen, so I think we’re going to be okay. Councilman Bassemier: Mr. President. President Wortman: Mr. Bassemier. Councilman Bassemier: Jim, on page 91 did you read that Law Clerk 1620-1360, did you read that one in at $34,974? Councilmember Raben: No, that’s a correction that would be made in September. Councilman Bassemier: In September? Okay. Councilmember Raben: That pertains to a salary line. I would certainly like to echo what Councilman Hoy was saying. I think we really need to give them their opportunity to let their process run its course. We can look at this should it not work. Councilmember Smith: If it isn’t in place by September then I think we need to think about it before we finalize the budget. Councilmember Raben: I don’t think it will happen quite that fast. Councilmember Smith: Well, then we could give him the public defender and it would still go in that pool if that came about. Councilmember Hoy: They really have until the first of the year since this position wouldn’t take place until the first of the year and I have a notion that they will have that -- I don’t think they’ll have it ready by September, but if they have that ready by the end of the year then this will be taken care of and if it’s not we can take care of it in the December or January meeting. President Wortman: January. I think that’s a possibility, too. Okay, any other discussion on that? Okay, call the roll please. We’ve got a motion and a second. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes.
Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now we’ll direct our attention to-- Councilmember Raben: Mr. President. President Wortman: --Community Corrections, page 94. LEGAL AID - UNITED WAY Councilmember Raben: Before we go there it was brought to my attention I did overlook one item back on page 186. The line number is 3990. It should have been set in at $1,370. According to our joint city/county meeting that was the corrected figure, so I would actually like to make a motion that we reopen the Legal Aid United Way budget on page 186. President Wortman: Okay, do have a second to the reopening of that? Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Second, okay. All
the members in favor raise your right hand. One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven. Alright, now proceed, Mr. Raben.
Jeff Ahlers: That’s an increase isn’t it? Councilmember Smith: Second. Councilmember Raben: This is an increase which will take six. President Wortman: I’ve got a motion on the floor. Who seconded it? Jeff Ahlers: Betty. President Wortman: Betty, did you second it? Jeff Ahlers: Why are we increasing it? President Wortman: Did you? Okay, fine. Any discussion on this? The secretary has got it all written down. Okay, that is an increase and it will take six votes. Jeff Ahlers: Six. President Wortman: Six votes, okay. Call the roll please. Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS President Wortman: Okay, now we’ll go to Community Corrections, page 94. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, turn to page 96. Line 1800-1361 $13,000; 1850 $40,000; line 1980 $4,000. All other salary lines, FICA, PERF, insurance will be set in at our September 1st meeting and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second to that affect? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Any discussion? Now, did you take the whole thing, Jim? Councilmember Raben: No, I just did salaries. President Wortman: Down to 1990, is that correct? Councilmember Raben: Correct. President Wortman: To 1990, Betty. Councilmember Smith: How much did you set 1990 in for? Councilmember Raben: There is not a request in 1990. Councilmember Smith: Okay, you said down to 1990 because I didn’t catch that. Councilmember Raben: Okay. President Wortman: Okay, thank you. Now, I’ve got a motion and a second. Any more discussion? Proceed with the roll call on this. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now proceed, Mr. Raben. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 2210 $8,000; 2260 $180,000; line 2600 $3,500; line 2750 $15,000; line 3200 $55,000; line 3310 $6,000. Page 98, line 4210 zero; line 4250 $5,600; line 4352 $18,000. All other items as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, Mrs. Smith. Any discussion? Councilmember Hoy: Yes, sir. A couple of things I would like to have in the record. I will vote yes on this, but I feel with the changes that we made with the Sheriff taking charge of this that as a Council we should ask for detailed expenditures from the Jobs Program Incorporated. Since the county purchases supplies and other items for that program we have a right to know how that is spent. We currently do not get that reporting. Secondly, I would like to see this Council overture the Sheriff that all persons who work in either program be covered by county policies so there is consistency and uniformity. Thirdly, I would like to see us have a report on the funds collected by the Jobs Program Incorporated to this Council similar to the kind of reports that we have on the commissary, so that we know how those funds are expended. The fourth thing I would like to see with the new administration is changing the cash policy so that people can pay by either check or money order, you know, or something of that nature so that there is a paper trail. They are handling probably $900,000 a year by their own admission and I think we’re the body that all of that -- we should receive the accountability on all of those things since we are the financial arm of this county. Those are simply recommendations. You don’t have to do anything on them today, but I wanted to read them into the record so that we do give them consideration. President Wortman: Thank you, Mr. Hoy. Mr. Lloyd. Councilmember Lloyd: I just had a question. Jobs Program Inc., that’s a private corporation, is it not? So you’re asking if there are county employees that work for that corporation that you would like to see the information on that? Councilmember Hoy: What I am saying is we fund some of that budget for Jobs Inc. and I think we’re at a point where we need consistency on this whole operation and since we’re in a time of change this is a good time to ask for it. The man to ask is the Sheriff. President Wortman: Okay, everybody understand Mr. Hoy’s recommendations? There was four of them and it was well taken. Alright, any more discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
CIRCUIT COURT MISDEMEANOR OFFENDER President Wortman: Circuit Court Misdemeanor Offender, page 172. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I would move that this Extra Help be approved as submitted. All other salary lines, FICA, PERF, insurance will be addressed at our September 1st meeting. I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Hoy. Any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes.
Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) CIRCUIT COURT SUPPLEMENTAL ADULT PROBATION President Wortman: Now we’ll direct our attention to page 165, Circuit Court Supplemental Adult Probation. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 1800-2600 be set in at $5,000. All salary lines, FICA, PERF, insurance will be adjusted at our September 1st meeting. All other lines as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Lloyd seconded it. Any discussion on this? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilman Bassemier? Councilman Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes.
Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, if there was no other-- Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I was going to -- today’s cut should amount to $311,271. President Wortman: Would you repeat that please? Councilmember Raben: Out of the General Fund, $311,271. I’m talking pertaining to the General Fund. Yesterday’s cuts were $701,015. President Wortman: Okay, if there is no other discussion for this budget process -- Mrs. Smith. Councilmember Smith: I would like to ask the Auditor for some information. I think we started out on the Reassessment Fund, it was $1.9 million. We’ve spent some money out of there and I would like to know the expenditures and the balance that we have now. What I can figure is that we’re $203,000 short, but I would like to have the figure on that because I questioned giving GIS $500,000 out of the Reassessment Fund and they said we’re going to have a lot of money, we don’t have to worry about it. But if we’re short right now in that fund that supposedly hasn’t been spent yet and we need to take a look at it because the money was set aside for Reassessment and that’s what it should be spent for, but I would like to have the paperwork on that. Thank you. President Wortman: Thank you, Mrs. Smith. I think they can come up with that number. If there is no other business to come before this day, the 18th, we’ll go to a recess until the 19th, which is tomorrow, at 12:00. We’ll see all your smiling faces then, thank you. Meeting recessed at 12:45. BUDGET HEARINGS AUGUST 19, 1999 The Vanderburgh County Council met in session this 19th day of August, 1999 in Room 301 of the Civic Center Complex. The meeting was officially opened by President Curt Wortman at 12:10 p.m. President Wortman: The Vanderburgh County Council is now in session for this budget process for the third and final day of hearings until we recess September the first, so will the secretary call the attendance roll please? (Teri Lukeman called roll)
President Wortman: Would we all stand and Pledge Allegiance, please? (Pledge of Allegiance was given.) COUNTY CORONER President Wortman: Okay, before we get into...the two-day session, we’ve cut...that don’t include today, $1,033,249. So, what we have to do today is almost $1,000,000, if possible, if not, we’ll have to...I’m assuming, the Council might have to go into the Patient Inmate care, which is not a pay right away deal, it’s the only account to worry about, but it has to be paid of course, but there’s a lot of times that we’ve delayed on it through the years and they don’t penalize, that’s the way I understand it. With that in mind, I guess we’ll start in right away and we’ve been making pretty good time and everybody has been very cooperative so we’ll start off with page 31, the County Coroner. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, I’ll move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF, and insurance will be set in at our September the first meeting. Turn to page 33, line 3650 Autopsies, be set in at 110,000. All other lines as they are listed and I make that in a form of a motion. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: I’ve got a second, two seconds over there, so it must be a pretty good shot, so that’s fine. Is there any discussion on that? No discussion. Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Thank you Mr. Buickel. I appreciate your short visit. Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman? President Wortman: Yes, ma’am? Councilmember Smith: I had already talked to Dennis about it and he said he could live without that right now in case something comes up later, he may have to come back. So, that was the reason I was so fast to second his motion. President Wortman: Right, that’s fine. If people are really careful, you won’t have as many autopsies. Dennis Buickel: I know, I know. If they quit dying on me. Thank you. President Wortman: Thank you, I appreciate it. WEIGHTS AND MEASURES President Wortman: The next on the agenda is Weights and Measures, page 86. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President. The Director has decided to work for free on this account, so...Mr. President, I’ll move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF, and insurance be set in at our September the first meeting. All other lines as they are submitted, and I make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: I got a motion and a second, any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Thank you, Mrs. Townsend, I appreciate your short visit. Loretta Townsend: Thank you. TREASURER President Wortman: Now then, the County Treasurer, page 10. Councilmember Raben: Okay, I move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF, and insurance be set in at our September the first meeting. Account 1990 $1,000; account 2700 $4,500; 3310 $500; and 4220 $12,000. All other items as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: I got a second from Mrs. Smith. Any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes.
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. President Wortman: Okay, that completes
that.
VETERANS ADMINISTRATION President Wortman: Next, Veterans Administration, page 78. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I’ll move that all salary lines, FICA, PERF, and insurance will be adjusted at our September the first meeting. Line 1990 be set in at $500; line 3310 $500. All other lines as they are listed, and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Any discussion? Councilmember Smith: Did you say line item 1990? Councilmember Raben: Yes 1990, $500. Councilmember Smith: It’s $500, okay. Councilmember Bassemier: Jim, I’m sorry, back on page 11, on the Treasurer. What did you say that Office Machines, 4220 was? Councilmember Raben: It was $12,000. Councilmember Bassemier: Okay, thanks. President Wortman: Okay, any more discussion on the Veterans Administration? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, that completes that. PROSECUTOR President Wortman: The Prosecutor, page 34. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, page 35, 1250-1080 zero; 1260-1080 zero; all other salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance as they are listed. Line 3371 $16,556; 3372 $16,000 -- Councilmember Sutton: No, it’s $6,000. Councilmember Raben: It’s $6,000, I’m sorry. Line 3900 $20,000 and line 3901 $25,000. All other lines as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second.
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Okay, we’ll turn to page 45. Councilmember Smith: Mr. Chairman? President Wortman: Yes, ma’am. Councilmember Smith: I had talked with Stan and he says when we get to the salaries in September, he really needs that Part-time Prosecutor. I hope you all will think about that and consider it, because he said he could get by with some of the rest of it without...but that would really help him. President Wortman: Thank you, Mrs. Smith. PROSECUTOR ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES President Wortman: Okay, now then, Mr. Levco, we’ve got page 45, and that’s the Adult Protective Services. Stan Levco: Oh, I’m still here, that sounds like me, yeah, okay. President Wortman: You’re not quite as fast as them others yet. Stan Levco: Okay. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President. Line 3994 $24,831, and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I got a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Now this is page 45, the Adult Protective Services. I think there is a question mark on the fourth person there, but nevertheless, if that’s the way it is...any discussion on that from anybody? Councilmember Sutton: Yeah, there was a...Stan you weren’t here. Doug was here. I asked a question about if we were to proportionately even this budget out among the other counties, say by population size, did you...were there...did you have any success coming up with what that would reasonably be for our share? Stan Levco: Was it $10,000? Yeah, we’ve asked all the other counties. They haven’t had their budget hearings yet, but it would come up to...if we got it all, about $10,000. I’ve talked to a couple of them and they seem to be optimistic. I can’t tell you that everyone has promised. One of them did tell me they had a problem with it. Of the one’s I’ve talked with, I’d say the majority felt like they could do it. Councilmember Sutton: So, $10,000 total of all of them toward this. Stan Levco: Right, if they gave us everything, it’ll be $10,000. President Wortman: It was projected at...we we’re going to try and get $8,000 out the five counties, if it could and of course, that was Warrick, Gibson, Perry, Posey, of course Vanderburgh, and then, Spencer, I think those were the counties involved on that. Okay, any other discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes.
Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now, we’ve got to go to page 38. You’ve got this one and another one, Jim. Councilmember Raben: Well, let’s go to page 41, Mr. President. President Wortman: Page 41? PROSECUTOR FEES-CHECK RECOVERY Councilmember Raben: We’ll finish these accounts first. Page 41, that’s Prosecutor Check Recovery division. All FICA, PERF, and insurance will be adjusted at our September the first meeting. All other accounts as they are listed, and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: I got a second. This is self supporting, remember. Okay, alright, any discussion on that? If not, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0)
PROSECUTOR DRUG LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM President Wortman: Now then, we’ll go to page 38-- Councilmember Raben: Page 42. President Wortman: Page 42. Well, you want to take the Drug Enforcement Program? Councilmember Raben: Yeah. President Wortman: Okay, that’s alright. Councilmember Raben: Yeah, we’ll get these accounts out of the way and then we’ll go back. We actually skipped over them when we went to 45. President Wortman: Okay, everybody’s got the page turned now to 42? Councilmember Raben: Line 3994 in the amount of $118,941, and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: I’ve got a second from Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? No discussion, call the roll. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now, we’ll go to IV-D, page 38. Councilmember Raben: We still have page 43, Mr. President. We have 43 and 44 yet. PROSECUTOR VICTIMS/WITNESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM Councilmember Raben: Page 43, line 3994, in the amount of 15,554. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: We’ve got a motion and a second on Prosecutor IV-D Program. Councilmember Raben: No, on page 43. Councilmember Lloyd: Witness Protection. President Wortman: Wait a minute now, let’s not get messed up here. Page what, 43? Councilmember Smith: It’s 43. Councilmember Raben: Page 43. President Wortman: Now, wait a minute. Let’s see what happens here. You’re getting me mixed up. Page 43, okay, you set that in at $15,554? Councilmember Raben: Yeah. President Wortman: Okay, that’s two employees. Councilmember Smith: It’s 554? Councilmember Raben: It’s $15,554. President Wortman: Yeah, okay. Any discussion? I’ve got a motion and a second. No discussion. Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
PROSECUTOR STOP DOMESTIC VIOLENCE President Wortman: Okay, now then we’ll go to-- Councilmember Raben: Page 44. President Wortman: --page 44. Councilmember Raben: Line 3994, as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mr. Hoy. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) PROSECUTOR IV-D President Wortman: Okay, now then, Mr. Raben? Councilmember Raben: Okay, page 38, Prosecutor IV-D account. Line 1260-1081, line 1270-1081, line 1280-1081, line 1290-1081, line 1300-1081, 1310-1081, and 1320-1081, zero. Line 1990 zero. All other salary lines will be set in and adjusted at our September the first meeting. Turn to...at our September the first meeting, what did I say? All other lines as they appear and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Got a second? Anybody got a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Let’s have a correction. Repeat that Mr. Raben, would you? Councilmember Raben: Okay, again on page 38, line 1260-1081 through 1320-1081, zero. Councilmember Sutton: 1260? Councilmember Raben: Through 1320-1081, zero. President Wortman: That’s the Enforcement Officers, there’s six of them. Councilmember Sutton: 1260 is an existing position. Councilmember Raben: Okay, excuse me. It’s 1270-1081, through 1320-1081, zero. Councilmember Hoy: Okay. Councilmember Raben: Go back...1990, I had stated earlier in my motion, zero, but that was a note that I had should we grant any of the other ones. Leave that in at $5,000. All other items as they are listed, and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Okay, now we got a motion. Have we got a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Alright, any more discussion on that? Councilmember Sutton: Yeah, Mr. President? President Wortman: Yes, sir, Mr. Sutton. Councilmember Sutton: In light of the backlog of cases and they keep adding more cases, standing right where we are, maybe six might be too many, but I guess I was thinking at least two or three positions on that Enforcement Officer situation, because it’s...we’re just creating, really, a pretty bad situation...well it’s already a bad situation. I just can’t see how we would not, you know, in light of where we are, I can’t see why we would not give some consideration on those Enforcement Officer positions. That’s pretty crucial and you’ve got a lot of people in this county depending upon the services that we provide in that particular area. We had a pretty lengthy discussion last week about the importance of this and I don’t want to rehash that, but I just want to reemphasize the importance of that, and just hope that we can go back in September and give some additional thought to that. I know we’re cutting it close to our freeze level and we want to try to stay within that, but I say, just...I think we should give some additional thought on at least two to three of these positions, on this Enforcement Officer. President Wortman: Mr. Sutton, you’re right on target, I think that’s true. Mrs. Smith? Councilmember Smith: In the Child Support Division, there’s an awful lot of women out there and some men that receive child support, and without the help of the Prosecutor’s Office, when I was County Clerk, we worked closely together, and we got a lot of money for the children, and I think it’s necessary. So, in September, let’s think about putting a couple of them in there. I know we have a freeze on employees, but sometimes it’s an emergency, and I think that’s one of them. President Wortman: Okay, thank you Mrs. Smith. Anybody else got any discussion? Call the roll please. Councilmember Hoy: I concur with what’s been said. I want us to look at it again. President Wortman: Thank you Mr. Hoy. Anybody else? Call the roll please now, finally. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: I’m going to vote no because I do not think we ought to cut out all six of them, maybe three, but not six. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: No. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: We’re going to look at it after this is all put in, so I’m going to vote yes for now, but I’m sure we’re going to go back and probably give two. We’re going to have to look over this budget. I’m going to vote yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: I will echo what Councilman Bassemier said. I want to see us put some of these back in, and I think we could do it in September. I’ll go ahead and vote yes today to move this on. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: I’m going to vote yes, and I’m going to add that there are roughly 56 employees in the Prosecutors Office. Although they may be positioned in individual budgets, I’m sure they all kind of cross over and do one an others jobs. So, I think with the manpower that’s in place, I can’t see that the County needs to add any additional employees. My vote is yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes, I’m going
to do the same thing, echo, Mr. Bassemier and Mr. Hoy, and Betty Knight,
and Royce, that’s going to have to be considered, definitely at the September
meeting. I will vote yes, as I said.
PROSECUTOR PRE-TRIAL DIVERSION President Wortman: Okay, now next on the agenda Prosecutor Pre-Trial Diversion, page 170. Councilmember Raben: Okay, FICA, PERF, insurance, salary lines will be set in September the first. All other items as they appear, and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Second, Mrs. Smith. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Thank you, Mr. Levco, and your side kick there, Mr. Brown. ARMSTRONG TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Okay, let’s get into the Assessors now. I might make a comment before we get into this and see how everybody thinks about it, Council, and maybe the Assessors too. The Reassessment has had no direction from the state, and in thinking in terms of that, if we wait until September the first, see if they can bring any direction. If not, we will just wait until maybe October or November and then evaluate them and they’ve got some money now and we don’t have no deadline to meet as long as we keep them going and get the money in here so we can all get paid. I think that’s the necessary thing. So if that’s -- and then think about that. So anyway, we’ll take off with the first, the Armstrong Assessor, page 50. Councilmember Smith: Well, are you saying that we’re just not going to check at all on the Reassessment today. That sounds fine till we wait and see what we’ve got. Councilmember Raben: There was no deadline on that budget, on setting that budget in place. President Wortman: Yeah, that a way they can be thinking and see how they go, but the state has got to give them some direction because they don’t want to do double. You know, that happened in several townships on the land commission and, you know, they’ve got to get off their duffs up there and get going. So anyway, let’s turn to page 50 and keep her moving. Councilmember Raben: Okay, before I start, there is going to be some cuts from two or three accounts as we go through these budgets and the reason behind that is there are some fairly large Reassessment budgets in place with ample money in these accounts and then plus what we do for next year. That’s why it is reasonable to make the cuts where we make them here. Page 50, all salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September the first; 1990 Extra Help $1,500; 3130 $100; all other lines as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
CENTER TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 52, Center Township. Councilmember Raben: Okay, all salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be adjusted September the first. Line 1990 $2,000; page 53 3130 $1,000; 3310 $1,000; all other items as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Got a second, got two seconds as a matter of fact. Okay, any discussion? No discussion, call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy?
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
GERMAN TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 55, German Township. Councilmember Raben: All salary lines FICA, PERF and insurance will be adjusted Sep-tember the first; line 3130 $400; all other lines as listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Mr. Hoy seconded. Okay, any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
KNIGHT TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now the next is Knight Township, 57 page. Councilmember Raben: Okay. Mr. President, line 1195-1130 zero; line 1990 $7,500; all other salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be adjusted September the first. Turn to page 58, 3130 $1,500; 3310 $1,000; 3700 $600; 4210 zero; and 4220 $8,000; all other lines as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second from Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? Councilmember Sutton: 4210, what was the amount there? President Wortman: 4210 is set in at zero. Councilmember Sutton: Okay. President Wortman: $8,000 on the 4220. Any other discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
PERRY TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now we go to Perry Township on the west side, page 60. Councilmember Raben: Okay, all salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September first; 1990 $5,000; 3130 $500; all other lines as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
PIGEON TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now we go to the area we are working in here, it’s Pigeon Township, page 62. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September the first. Line 1990 $6,250; line 3130 $1,500; line 4210 zero; all other items as they are listed and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second from Mr. Lloyd. Any discussion? Paul Hatfield: Mr. President? President Wortman: Yes sir. Paul Hatfield: Before you vote, on your line item 1990, the request was for $12,500. You have deemed fit to cut it to $6,250. Now let me tell you where we are. Right now we have not had anybody that’s checking the building permits, tear downs since July first since the person that I had in that job at $7.00 an hour got a better job upstairs at DMD for almost thirty. Now I’ve got a backlog now of commercial building permits, residential building permits, and I’ve got 20 call backs on my desk right now for residential and building permits from January, February and March. Now this is a mistake. Now the $6,250, because the guy that I hire, I am going to have to pay him $8.50, you can’t hire anybody at $7.00. And at $8.50, at $6,250, that gives me just about eighteen weeks of work. Now, as an analogy here, in `98 in this line item we spent $17,000 on the same basis that we are working right now. In `99 we’ve only spent $3,845 but that’s because I haven’t had anybody in the spot since the first of July and the guy thats actually earned the $3,845 was at $5.15. And I’ll tell you what, think about that. So you are going to cut this now in half, $12,500 to $6,250, I can’t get the job done for that. I can’t get the job done for that. Now if you are going to tell me well, when that runs out come back, no, I won’t come back. I won’t come back. This is -- first of all, when you cut a line item I hope, and I never hear it discussed here, as to why you cut it. What is your reasoning? Just to cut the -- the total amount you’re cutting out of this budget is $9,250. That is a hell of a short bit of money when you are trying to cut a million three. But you know what? It’s like the widget factory. If you’re not going to put the money in the line to produce the widgets which we’re making money on, then you’re bottom line goes down. I hope you get my point here. I mean, this is ridiculous. This whole budget is exactly $100 more than last year. So what -- my point to you is, you’re cutting in the wrong spots. I implore you to restore that $12,500. I need it. I am the one that said cut the furniture out. I don’t need any furniture. You’re cutting Travel/Mileage, I’ll work with that. But I implore you to restore the total amount of $12,500 in that Extra Help line item. And you know what? I invite any of you to come down and I’ll run you through the chairs so you really know what in the world goes on in my office. I haven’t seen any of you. But you’re cutting my budget. And you don’t have a good reason to do it. Not a good one. Now if mine was up $20,000, yeah, you should ask me a lot of questions. That is not the case here. So I implore you, implore you. I mean after all, we are orphans. That is the way you treat us and we’re the money makers. We’re your cash cow. President Wortman: Thank you, Paul. I think -- Councilmember Bassemier: Wait a minute, Paul. Don’t leave yet. I got a question mark here. Jim, I think most of us had a question mark here. Would you explain -- he needs an explanation why in your mind that -- Councilmember Raben: That’s been across the board with all the Assessor’s offices, but I am going to remind you that this month alone you appropriated $42,000 in Extra Help -- Paul Hatfield: That is a different situation. Councilmember Raben: Excuse me, I’ve got the mike. Paul Hatfield: If you come down, I’ll show you. Councilmember Raben: Paul, I’ve got the mike. Next year there is a request for over $100,000 -- Paul Hatfield: That’s in Reassessment. That’s not in the operating budget. Councilmember Raben: There is a total appropriation of $142,000 in Extra Help. I think that office can work with that. Paul Hatfield: That’s what you think but you don’t know. I’ll tell you this, if the $6,250 is going to make your million three, you’re in trouble already. President Wortman: Mr. Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: I just had a question. On the gentleman in Extra Help, the $8.50 an hour, is he going to work 40 hours or is he going to work part time? Paul Hatfield: He’s going to work 39. Councilmember Lloyd: So that’s where the 18 weeks come from? Paul Hatfield: That’s exactly right. Councilmember Lloyd: Would he be also working on Reassessment matters? Paul Hatfield: No, he would not and that’s the point I am trying to make to Mr. Raben. You’re talking about two different cages here. Councilmember Raben: Paul, let me ask you, when a gentleman goes out or a lady or gentleman goes out and inspects for a permit, what does he or she do? Paul Hatfield: He checks exactly what’s been done constructually. Councilmember Raben: Okay, and what else? Paul Hatfield: Also, he’d check the property reg card to make damn sure it is correct. Councilmember Raben: And measures, probably? Paul Hatfield: Excuse me?
Paul Hatfield: That’s right. Councilmember Raben: Is that not part of Reassessment? Paul Hatfield: See, you don’t understand how the train runs. We are starting up in Reassessment Monday morning up above Diamond Avenue in what I have designated as P8. Now these things might be all over this township. Now you’re trying to tell me how to run my office and I’ll say this, if you’re going to do that, then let me come to Henderson and let me tell you how to run your tire business. Councilmember Raben: Paul, I am not saying that at all -- Councilmember Bassemier: We’re just asking -- Paul Hatfield: Sure you are. Councilmember Raben: Maybe I am wrong and the state is wrong because the state says that when you go out to take care of a permit, that does pertain to Reassessment and can fall under that line. Paul Hatfield: Well, the state doesn’t know -- that’s horse hockey. Councilmember Raben: Call for the question. President Wortman: Okay, I think that is something to consider, he’s got to operate or what and that is regular, so anyway, we’ll go there and that can be considered at the September meeting. I think we’re all aware of that, so let’s get to going along with this and then we’ll come back. Thank you, Mr. Hatfield. Call for a vote please, well just a minute. We’ve got the secretary over here having a little discussion. Take your time. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Again, I would hope that we revisit that Extra Help line item in September. I am going to vote yes but I want to see that we take a look at getting that back up to the $12,500. Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes, and I think
we will have to revisit that because the gentleman has got to operate and
I think that we’ve got to consider things like this because we can’t tie
their hands completely, but I know we’ve got to meet the cuts but I think
we’ve got to be reasonable. Okay. So that passes.
SCOTT TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now then we’ll jump in to Scott Township out there in the promised land, page 64. Councilmember Raben: Okay, all FICA, PERF and insurance and salary lines will be set in September the first; line 2600 $1,500; line 3130 $400; line 3140 $900; line 4220 $750; all other items as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Any discussion? Councilmember Smith: Did you say 4220? Councilmember Raben: 4220, $750. President Wortman: Okay, any other discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
UNION TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now we’ll go to Union Township, page 66. Councilmember Raben: Okay, all salary, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September the first; line 3310 Training $250; all other items as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Okay, any discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
COUNTY ASSESSOR President Wortman: Now turn to page 46, the County Assessor. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President. All salary lines, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at our September the first meeting; 1990 Extra Help $8,000; line 2600 $3,500; line 3250 $1,000...excuse me...3310 $1,000; line 4210 zero; line 4220 $8,000; all other items as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Councilmember Smith: You called off one that I didn’t get. Go back, was it 42...? Councilmember Raben: Do you want me to run back through them? Councilmember Smith: No, come down from the 3130. Did you have any in that area? Councilmember Raben: No, nothing in 3130, but in 3310. Councilmember Smith: Okay, I got it. I have a question about the law books. Why would the County Assessor ask for law books when they get the code books every year that’s sent down from the legislative body in Indianapolis? Any change in the code is sent down and the County Assessor gets a copy of those. It might be two books, it might be three, but why are we buying law books for the County Assessor? President Wortman: Now then, it’s discussion we’re in and, Mrs. Musgrave, would you answer that question please? Cheryl Musgrave: Certainly. We refer to those books several times a week. They are not just the changes in the law. They are Burns Statutes and they give the case law that applies to the statutes. We frequently have to go to the law library to get the case law. The law is quite difficult to sometimes grasp, particularly in exemptions. And it’s necessary for us to have these in our office, otherwise, we would be walking to the Clerk’s office many times a week and that would be remarkably inefficient and would cost more than the $400 per year it takes to have the books available at our fingertips. President Wortman: Okay. Councilmember Smith: Well, in 1999, they spent -- or this year it’s $202, and if you buy law books, you buy them one time. I don’t understand the $400. We’re trying to cut pennies out and I still do not think that we should buy law books for the County Assessor because we’ve got a law library across in the Courts Room. Cheryl Musgrave: We’ll probably spend the balance of the fund between now and the end of the year. The books are given annual updates, little packs, little updates that come and you slip them in the back, and those come out periodically, and so that is probably why we haven’t finished spending that this year. It just hasn’t come -- President Wortman: It’s amendments to the books, more or less. Councilmember Smith: You get those. They send those down to...the County Assessor gets copies of them because I used to deliver them to all the offices that get them. Those come down, any changes. President Wortman: Do they come down automatic, Mrs. Musgrave, or do you have to pay for them? Cheryl Musgrave: The books that she’s talking about are quite different than these books. Yes, they do have the changes, but if you wanted to look something up you’d have to look in this book, and then in that book, and then in that book. The Burns book, you look in one book and you’re sure you’ve found the statute that’s current and that applies. President Wortman: So we’re talking about something different, then? Cheryl Musgrave: Yeah, it really is different. President Wortman: I see. Cheryl Musgrave: I would be happy to educate Mrs. Smith about that if you would like. Councilmember Smith: I don’t think it’s necessary. President Wortman: Okay. Alright, we’ll check in between now and September the first and maybe have a good answer for Mrs. Smith. Mr. Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: I’ve got a question. It looks -- I mean, based on what we have spent in this line item, those books have been there for several years, is that correct? Cheryl Musgrave: Yes. President Wortman: Okay, any other discussion? Call the roll please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: No. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 49 -- and we’re going to change tapes. PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT BOARD OF APPEALS President Wortman: Okay, now we’ll turn to page 49, Property Tax Assessment Board of Appeals. Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, line 1180-1091 $7,800; line 1990 $3,280; 4210 zero; and all other items as they are listed and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: We’ve got a motion and a second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
911 EMERGENCY SERVICE President Wortman: Page 176, 911 Emergency Service. Councilmember Raben: I move approval of this budget as listed. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: Got a motion and a second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? President Wortman: Page 174, 176. I’m sorry. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: What page are we on? Councilmember Raben: One seven six. Councilmember Smith: He said 151. Councilmember Lloyd: No, he’s turned to page 176. President Wortman: Emergency Service fund, page 176. Councilmember Hoy: We have a motion and a second for passage. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes.
Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMISSION President Wortman: Okay, got that done. Now then, we’ll go to page 174. Councilmember Raben: I move approval of this budget as listed. Councilmember Sutton: Second. President Wortman: Okay, got a motion and a second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) LOCAL DRUG FREE COMMUNITY President Wortman: Now we’ll turn to page 175, Local Drug Free Community. Councilmember Raben: I’ll move approval of this budget as listed. Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a motion and a second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please, when you get time. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. I didn’t hear her. It doesn’t come through there. Teri Lukeman: Sorry. Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) RIVERBOAT President Wortman: Now then we’ve got page 80. Have we got a County Commissioner or anybody present? Sandie went to find one of them. Let’s skip down to 121, the Riverboat. Councilmember Raben: I’ll move approval of this budget as listed. President Wortman: Okay, do I have a second to that effect? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Second, any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes.
Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) COUNTY COUNCIL President Wortman: Let’s go on and do County Council, page 119. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September first, all other lines as they appear and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Got a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Any discussion? All those in favor... Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) COUNTY COMMISSIONERS President Wortman: Now then we go to page 80, County Commissioners. Councilmember Raben: Okay Mr. President, line 1140-1300 zero. Move down to Extra Help and insert line 1990 Extra Help in the amount of $4,396. All other salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in September first. Line 2600 Office Supplies $10,000; line 3040 $8,000; line 3050, and I may elaborate on this just a moment, $1,000,000. Since this is the last budget of the day, with the cuts that have been put in place with this $500,000 cut that gets us over the $2,000,000 mark. If we find that the insurance estimates are significantly higher than necessary in September we may want to take that extra and put it back on this line knowing that this line is going to be significantly under budgeted. Let’s turn to page 82. Line 3100 should read $122,430; line 3210 Emergency Management $76,711. On page 83 line 3490 $23,000; line 3500 $29,819. Page 84, line 3750 Purchasing Department $81,024; line 3850 Building Commission $328,064. At the top of page 85, 3890 $606,806. All other lines as they are listed and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. Councilmember Hoy: Second. President Wortman: And I got a second. Jim, on page 82 at the bottom 3310 Training, did you do anything with that? Councilmember Raben: Yes sir, I did. I thought I called that out, $500. President Wortman: That would be added to your motion? Councilmember Raben: I’ll amend my motion to include 3310 $500. President Wortman: Agree with that, Mr. Hoy? You’ll go along with that. Any other discussion? No discussion, call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Councilmember Sutton: Not you yet. One thing we talked about last week and I hope we don’t forget, I know, Commissioner Jerrell, you mentioned they are pursuing some options and that is that line item 3330 there might be some reduction there. That’s the record storage item that’s on page 83. So there might be some costs savings there. Perhaps maybe by September we may have some additional word on what those numbers are. Yes. President Wortman: Okay, Mr. Bassemier?
Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes.
President Wortman: Do you have a question, Mrs. Smith? Councilmember Smith: In regards to what he just said, Bettye told me that they have a place they think. So she couldn’t tell me exactly where it was or what about it, but she said there would be a change in that record storage. CCD FUND President Wortman: Now we’ll go to page 134, the CCD Fund. Councilmember Raben: Okay Mr. President, I’ll move approval of this budget as it appears. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Lloyd: Second. President Wortman: Got a second. Okay, any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) DRAINAGE BOARD President Wortman: Now turn your books to page 77, Drainage Board. Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, all salary, FICA, PERF and insurance will be set in at the September first meeting, line 2600 as it appears and I’ll make that in the form of a motion. President Wortman: Do I have a second? Councilmember Smith: Second. President Wortman: Any discussion? Call the roll, please. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Smith? Councilmember Smith: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton? Councilmember Sutton: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Bassemier? Councilmember Bassemier: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Hoy? Councilmember Hoy: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben? Councilmember Raben: Yes. Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Lloyd? Councilmember Lloyd: Yes. Teri Lukeman: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Okay, that completes that in record time, we’re beating ourselves pretty good. So, I will recess the meeting unless there’s -- Councilmember Hoy: President Wortman? President Wortman: Yes sir. Councilmember Hoy: I have a resolution I’d like to present if I may. President Wortman: Okay, continue Mr. Hoy. Councilmember Hoy: If you’ll pass those around. President Wortman: If you’ll recall yesterday Mr. Hoy had four resolutions or points to bring in this. So this is a copy so you’ll have it for your records. He put it on record and this here you’ll have. He’ll read it and we’ll go from there. Councilmember Hoy: I’d like to move that we overture the County Commissioners and Sheriff Ellsworth, one, that the County Council would like a detailed report from the Jobs Program Incorporated since the county budget includes this program in its annual budget for supplies and perhaps some other things. Two, the County Council feels that all employees of Vanderburgh County Community Corrections Program should be covered by the Job Study guidelines set forth by the county. Three, all funds collected and expended by the Jobs Program Incorporated should be reported to the County Council. Four, I understand this may be in effect, Mr. President, but I’m not sure, payments by participants in the Vanderburgh County Community Corrections Program should be made by check or by money order and not by cash. Councilmember Bassemier: I’d like to second that. President Wortman: There’s a motion and a second. Any discussion on that? If not, seven Councilmembers raise your hand if your in favor of it. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. (Motion unanimously approved 7-0) President Wortman: Thank you. Danke schoen on that one. Okay, any other business come before us? No, so we’re going to recess the meeting until September first at 12:00. We have a County Council meeting, you know, and then the 25th we have a Personnel and Finance Meeting. Mrs. Smith? Councilmember Smith: I just have a statement to make. Mr. Diescher has sat there for six days and hasn’t said one word at $800 a day. Now, from now on I don’t think that the county, the taxpayers, should pay $800 a day for a person to sit there because if we’ve got a question then we could direct it to him in his office. I think if you take a look at that we’re cutting out $6,000 for a needed part-time help, but yet we’re giving him $4,800 to sit here six days and say not one word. I have a problem with it and I think you might, you all -- I know that I am only one, but I think you all ought to take a look at it and I think the taxpayers and the City of Evansville will agree with me. President Wortman: Okay, I’m going to remind the Council prior to the Personnel and Finance meeting there will be a special meeting which you’ll get notified in your packet on this resolution from the Treasurer, if I’m correct. Is that correct? Councilmember Bassemier: Mr. President, I’d like to say something in Tim’s defense, he’s over there. I was going to say he sat through the first three meetings and there might be -- I’m not saying this time we might not needed him or he didn’t have to say anything, but I know he talks with Sandie afterwards and they go through numbers even though it’s not brought up on the floor. But he is being really helpful there and just because he hasn’t said anything it’s not that he’s not working on this budget after these meetings also. So, you know, if he can hear it direct sometimes that’s the best source. I’m not saying it sounds like we don’t need him, but believe me he’s there in the background, he’s there with us. President Wortman: Okay, thank you Mr. Bassemier. Okay, no other business to come before this? We’re going to recess until September the first. Meeting recessed at 1:05.
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