VANDERBURGH COUNTY COUNCIL

BUDGET HEARINGS

AUGUST 23, 2005

The Vanderburgh County Council met in session this 23rd day of August, 2005 in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex. The meeting was called to order at 9:04 a.m. by County Council President Lloyd Winnecke.

President Winnecke: Good morning and welcome to the continuation of the 2005 Vanderburgh County budget hearings. We’ll begin with attendance roll call please.

President Winnecke: Two weeks ago we heard from department heads and officeholders about their budget justifications for 2006. This body appreciates your patience and your due diligence during that process. Today we’ll begin setting the 2006 budget line by line, department by department. We are departing from our traditional format of performing this task over a three day period. Instead we intend to complete this phase of the budgeting process today. As a reminder, this is not our final budget hearing. The final budget hearing is September 14th, so there could be additional changes from anything that is set in place today until the September 14th meeting. Again, I’d like to thank our county department heads and officeholders for their input during the budget process. I’d also like to thank Council Secretary, Sarah Nunn and our Executive Assistant, Sandie Deig. They put forth really extraordinary efforts to keep us organized and they do a lot of research on our behalf and, ladies, we do appreciate what you do. Before we get to the business at hand, I’d also like to thank my six other colleagues on Council. Like the last several budgets before this one, this effort has truly been a collaborative effort with significant input from each member. I believe that when we conclude this process next month we will have crafted a budget that is not a republican budget or a democrat budget, but a spending plan that is well conceived and that is in the best interest of our entire county. And before I turn it over to Mr. Raben to begin, I’d just like to point to the pie chart that the Auditor’s office has prepared for us, just kind of a breakdown of how property taxes are spent in our county. If you look at it closely, the big blue piece is the school corporation. They receive almost 44% of property taxes, the city of Evansville would be next with almost 26%, the county is next with about 17% and it breaks down in smaller pieces from there. Each of the Councilmembers has that at their desk for reference, but I think that’s a nice visual aid to kind of keep things in perspective for us. Having said all that, I’ll turn the event over to Mr. Raben.

Councilmember Raben: Okay, thank you, Mr. President. Again, just to rehash part of what President Winnecke stated, we’re going to work from these sheets and I think it will be much easier than paging back and forth through this book that’s somewhat hard to read from anyway. Starting out, my motion will be that we’ll set all salaries, FICA, PERF and insurance at our September 14th meeting as we do every year. And that will be with all budgets, you know, for which we’re responsible for in this process. So one other point of note, what I’ll do, I’ll set these cuts in and I’ll proceed until someone has a question or asks me to stop and then we’ll call for the motion at that point, if that’s...

President Winnecke: We’ll do it by department head, by budget, though.

Councilmember Raben: Right. You’re talking about the – call for the motion by budget or –

President Winnecke: Yes.

Councilmember Raben: We can, I mean, I –

President Winnecke: I think it would be cleaner that way.

Councilmember Raben: Okay, fine. Again, Mr. President, I move that all salaries, FICA, PERF & Insurance will be set in at our September 14, 2005 meeting.

COUNTY CLERK

Councilmember Raben: Starting out with the County Clerk, 1010-1990 Extra Help zero, 1010-2600 $60,000, 1010-3520 $500, 1010-3603 $60,000, all other accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Mr. Tornatta.

Councilmember Tornatta: Mr. Raben, on 2600, in our talks we cut that $20,000. Is there a reason why we went to the 10 or...

Councilmember Raben: I actually do not have 20...

Councilmember Tornatta: I mean, I guess we can go 15 as a compromise. I’m showing right now that if they spent the exact same amount, they’d still be about 50,000.

Councilmember Raben: Okay. Mr. President, I will move to amend my motion for 1010-2600 to be set in at $55,000.

President Winnecke: Mr. Wortman, will you amend your second? $55,000, that’s line 2600.

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

President Winnecke: Other questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

CLERK IV-D

Councilmember Raben: Okay, next, County Clerk IV-D. I move all 2000, 3000 and 4000 accounts be set in as submitted. I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

AUDITOR

Councilmember Raben: Okay, next, under County Auditor, 1020-3370 Computer zero.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Raben: Okay, all other accounts as they are listed.

President Winnecke: Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

TREASURER

Councilmember Raben: Okay, County Treasurer, 1030-1990 zero, 1030-3370 zero, 1030-4220 Office Machines zero. All other accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: There's a motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Raben: Legal Services, I skipped over that. That needs to stay as it is, as it appears in your book so leave that at $3,500.

President Winnecke: Other questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

RECORDER

Councilmember Raben: Next under County Recorder, all salaries, FICA, PERF & Insurance will be set in September the 14th, and that's it for that budget. I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

SHERIFF

Councilmember Raben: Okay, County Sheriff. Starting with, as you can see on your paper, these first several lines are salary related. Those will be set in September the 14th. So we'll start with account 1050-1210 $63,000, 1050-1310 $10,000 --

Councilmember Sutton: 1301?

Councilmember Raben: 1301, excuse me. 1050-1301 $10,000, 1050-1540 $2,500, 1050-2210 $100,000, 1050-2230 $60,000, 1050-2300 zero, 1050-2600 $9,000, 1050-2610 $3,000, 1050-2640 zero, 1050-2650 $4,000, 1050-2660 zero, 1050-2670 $7,000, 1050-2700 zero, 1050-2760 2,500, 1050-3310 $15,000, 1050-3370 zero, 1050-3520 $5,000, 1050-3540 $5,000, 1050-3700 zero, 1050-3920 zero, 1050-4230 zero, 1050-4250 zero, and 1050-4290 zero. All other accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Abell: I have a question. Mr. Raben, what does Court Security cover?

Councilmember Raben: Excuse me?

Councilmember Abell: What does Court Security cover?

Councilmember Raben: What account number?

Councilmember Abell: 2760.

Councilmember Raben: That, its my understanding that takes care of repairs on the security equipment.

Brad Ellsworth: Sonitrol and key fobs.

Councilmember Abell: Okay.

President Winnecke: Other questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

JAIL

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President. Next under the Jail, starting with 1051-1850 $25,000, 1051-2200 zero, 1051-2210 zero, 1051-2250 zero, 1051-2260 $350,000, 1051-2300 zero, 1051-2600 zero, 1051-3310 zero, 1051-3520 zero, 1051-3530 52,000, 1051-4250 zero. All other 2, 3, & 4,000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

SURVEYOR

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Mr. President, on this next budget, County Surveyor, we're going to begin with 1060-2320 Instruments in the amount of $5,000, 1060-

Councilmember Wortman: $500.

Councilmember Raben: 500, excuse me.

Councilmember Tornatta: And that's been changed to 1,000.

Councilmember Raben: To cut $1,000?

Councilmember Tornatta: To cut $1,000 and to move it over.

Councilmember Raben: Okay, I stand to be corrected. 1060-2320 Instruments zero, 2330 zero, 3371 zero, 3700 $4,000, all salary lines, FICA, PERF & Insurance will be adjusted September 14th and all other 2, 3, and 4,000 accounts as listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

CORONER

Councilmember Raben: County Coroner, starting with 1070-2230 1,500, 2410 7,000, 2700 2,000, 2710 2,500, 2720 7,000, 2740 1,000, 3160 2,000, 3190 4,000, 3371 zero, 3530 4,500, 3610 zero, 3640 35,000, 3650 150,000, 3660 zero. All other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Table continued next page)

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

PROSECUTOR

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Prosecutor 1080-3371 zero. All other 2, 3, & 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

PROSECUTOR IV-D & GRANTS

President Winnecke: Okay, next we have Prosecutor IV-D and department 1080 Prosecutor grants. I’ll move that all salaries be set in September 14th meeting, all other 2, 3, & 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

COUNTY ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: County Assessor, 1090-1990 zero, 1090-3370 zero, all other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT BOARD OF APPEALS

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Property Tax Assessment Board of Appeals, starting with 1091-1900 through 1091-3530 all set in at zero and we will move that to the Reassessment budget later this year.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, just as a matter of clarification, 1180-1091 Per Diem, we’ll set that in September the 14th as well.

President Winnecke: Okay. Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

Councilmember Tornatta: What was the total set aside in the Reassessment on that account? Total number?

Councilmember Raben: The total number that is in the budget is $82,961. Again, we’ll make adjustments and set that in later this year.

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay, I was just curious. We had $81,400. How did we come up with that versus the other one? You were talking about the Per Diem?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay.

ARMSTRONG TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: Okay, moving to Armstrong Assessor. Starting with 1100-1990 down through 1100-3600 all set in at zero. Mr. President, again, as we go through all these Assessor’s budgets, the intent with these cuts are to shift all this to Reassessment fund.

President Winnecke: I understand.

Councilmember Raben: I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Sutton: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

CENTER TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Center Assessor. Starting with 1110-1990 through 1110-3700, all accounts set in at zero, I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

GERMAN TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: German Assessor, starting with 1120-2600 through 1120-4220 all set in at zero. I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

KNIGHT TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: Mr. President, I’m going to move that well, we’ll stay with one budget at a time. Knight Assessor, 1130-1990 through 1130-3700 all be set in at zero. I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: There’s a motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Table continued next page)

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

President Winnecke: Mr. Raben, if you would like to group the next four together in the interest of time because the intent is the same.

Councilmember Raben: Alright.

PERRY TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

PIGEON TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

SCOTT TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

UNION TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR

Councilmember Raben: I’ll move that Perry Assessor account 1140-1990 through 1140-3700 be set in at zero. Pigeon Assessor 1150-1990 through 1150-3700 set in at zero, Scott Assessor 1160-1990 though 1160-4220 zero. Union Assessor 1170-2600 through 1170-3700 set in at zero, and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

PERRY

PIGEON

SCOTT

(Table continued next page)

UNION

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

ELECTION OFFICE

Councilmember Raben: Election Office, starting with account 1210-2700 $10,000, 1210-3410 20,000, 1210-3470 700, 1210-3530 zero. All other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yeah, quick discussion. 3630, we talked about cutting $1,500, 3610 talked about cutting 1,000 –

Councilmember Raben: Hold on, hold on.

Councilmember Tornatta: Sorry.

Councilmember Raben: Cutting $1,500, and what was the other account?

Councilmember Tornatta: 3630 was $1,500, 3610 was 1,000, 3420 was 1,000, 2290 was 350, and then 4220 was 1,000. I had a total – a little bit more than you did.

Councilmember Raben: The 2290 I agreed with. First, Mr. President, I’d like to amend my motion to add account 2290 $300.

President Winnecke: Be set in at $300?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

President Winnecke: That’s 2290 Board Meals.

Councilmember Raben: No – yeah, –

President Winnecke: 2290, set in at $300.

Councilmember Raben: As far as 3610 Legal Services, its my understanding that that needed to stay in place and there is a, on 3630 its also my understanding that there is a contract or a lease agreement, one, on that account. I don’t know that to be factual. We can, if you’d like, we can come back to that in September if need to be, if we want to make note of that.

Councilmember Tornatta: 4210 is Office Furniture. Since we’ve pretty much did not allow on the Office Furniture, I thought we agreed on that. And then the 4220 was Office Machines. And the only thing I had under 3420 for the thousand was, to me, that’s Legal Advertising, should that not go through the Commissioners budget?

Councilmember Raben: Which account? Oh, I see, 3420?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Councilmember Raben: Marsha, I would ask you, is that something that has to stay in? Having worked with this office, does that Legal Advertising, does that need to stay within this budget?

Councilmember Abell: The Clerk advertises the list of candidates and its going to be a large list this time, so I suspect you should leave it in there but it could go into the Commissioners budget, they list the polling places.

Councilmember Raben: Okay. As far as Legal Services, that takes care of both election attorneys, correct? Or –

Councilmember Abell: Well, I think that the Legal Services that you’re seeing here is a lawsuit that’s been filed on behalf of Vanderburgh County against the state of Indiana regarding whether or not to put numbers on the ballots. There’s going to be more litigation because the Election Attorney is, you will find that on the Election Board, should be under the Election Board budget.

Councilmember Tornatta: So would that be set at zero?

Councilmember Abell: If you want to wait until September 14th, Mr. Raben, I’d be happy to sit down with Ms. Kirk and maybe the two of us can go through this.

Councilmember Raben: I want to leave that one alone, but I do have an amendment on the floor to include 2290, should be $300, 3420 set in at 700, and 4210 zero, 4220 500. I make that in the form of a motion. All other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion on the floor. Questions or more discussion? Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Before I vote I want to make sure we’re clear here on our sheets, its listed as 3470 as Legal Advertising, am I reading that right?

Sandie Deig: (Inaudible, microphone not turned on)

Councilmember Sutton: Should be 3420, okay. Do you see what I’m talking about there?

Councilmember Raben: Yeah. For the record, Legal Advertising is account 1210-3420.

Councilmember Sutton: Okay, and that should be $700? Okay. My vote is yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Table continued next page)

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

VOTER REGISTRATION

Councilmember Raben: Voter Registration, account 1220-1160 zero, all 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yep. 2600, we cut 500 off that.

Councilmember Raben: Okay, I’ll entertain that. Mr. President, I would like to amend my motion to include account 2600 set in at 2,000.

President Winnecke: Mr. Wortman, would you amend your second?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

President Winnecke: Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

COOPERATIVE EXTENSION

President Winnecke: Okay, Co-op Extension Services. Starting with 1230-1990 zero, 1230-2600 $4,500, on everyone’s sheet they also have a cut for 1230-3370, its my understanding that’s a contract so disregard that, that should remain as stated or requested at 5,400, 1230-4220 Office Furniture $1,000, all other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed. I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: There’s a motion and second. Questions or discussion?

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay,...

President Winnecke: Mr. Tornatta.

Councilmember Tornatta: 3130, there was a thousand dollar cut, 3530 was $2,500 –

President Winnecke: Let’s go a little slower. You’re breezing through those lines.

Councilmember Raben: 3130, so set that in at 5,000? 3130 –

Councilmember Tornatta: 3130, we had...we were going to set in at last year’s totals. I mean, they obviously are going to come close. I didn’t know what the rationale was, just since the last time we talked.

Councilmember Raben: Oversight. So I’m comfortable with that. 3130, and did you have another cut you want to propose?

Councilmember Tornatta: 3530, the actual amount requested was $64,080.

Councilmember Raben: Yeah, that’s correct, I was going to set that in, in September, but that’s fine. I’ll make that on this motion as well.

President Winnecke: Mr. Tornatta, what was your proposed cut on the Travel/Mileage?

Councilmember Tornatta: I tell you what, since they’re meeting their goal in that line item, if we just take 3910 and set it in at last year’s totals, and leave their Travel line item where it is, I’d be okay with that. So 3130 would stay the same.

Councilmember Raben: Let me, just for clarification, starting again with Co-op Extension, 1230-1990 Extra Help zero, 1230-2600 Office Supplies 4,500, 1230-4220 1,000, 3130 5,000, 3530 64,080 is the correct figure and 3910 $8,000, all other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: We have a new motion and a second.

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay, what I had said earlier is, since we took the thousand away from 3910, we’d just go ahead and leave 3130 as is since they’re going to hit their goal in that account. So it would stay at 6,000.

Councilmember Raben: Okay, I’ll amend my motion to leave 3130 in at the requested amount of 6,000.

President Winnecke: Mr. Wortman, will you amend your second?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

President Winnecke: Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

AREA PLAN

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Area Plan, starting with 1240-2230 $500, 1240-3130 2,000, 3310 zero, 3520 500, 3740 zero, all other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and second. Questions or discussion? Mr. Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: On 4250 we had cut 3,000, was there any other information in that account?

Councilmember Raben: I don’t have that cut but I’m comfortable with it if everyone else is comfortable with it.

President Winnecke: How did you make the justification for the $3,000 cut, Mr. Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: They had spent $477 in that account year to date, if they had a piece of equipment that they needed, they would encumber that money over into the next year, giving them a thousand would be $4,000.

Councilmember Raben: I guess, one, I mean, if you look at the history, the least amount they spent last year was $5,900 and the high was 2003 at 12,000, so it looks like, you know, outside of this year, they’re on track every year to spend much more than $4,000.

President Winnecke: What’s your proposed cut? I’m sorry.

Councilmember Tornatta: The proposed cut was 3,000 out of the 4250 account.

Councilmember Raben: Let’s, just for the sake of security, could we just take 2,000 out of it?

Councilmember Tornatta: That’s fine.

Councilmember Raben: Okay. I’ll, Mr. President, I’ll amend my motion to set 4250 in at $2,000.

President Winnecke: Mr. Wortman? Okay. Roll call vote – oh, Mr. Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Let me just add, since there is a little bit of uncertainly on that and just based on our discussion about the history on that, perhaps we might want to do a little bit more, gather up a little bit more information so that if we do need to restore that line, that we have the option of doing that.

Councilmember Raben: Councilman Tornatta, would you take on that responsibility to verify this between now and September 14th?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yeah, that would be fine.

President Winnecke: Roll call vote.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

DRAINAGE BOARD

Councilmember Raben: Okay, on Drainage Board, Mr. President, I’ll move that all salary lines, again, just like with FICA and PERF, will be set in September the 14th, all other accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Wortman: Second.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

VETERANS ADMINISTRATION

Councilmember Raben: Okay, Veterans Administration, since there is no cuts I will go ahead and again, this goes with every budget we’re discussing today, that all salary lines including FICA, PERF and Insurance will be set in September the 14th, all other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are submitted, I make that in the form of a motion.

President Winnecke: Motion and a second. Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion unanimously approved 7-0)

COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

Councilmember Raben: Okay, County Commissioners, starting with 1300-1990 zero, 2690 zero, 3000 the correct figure is $805,000, that’s Bond & Insurance, the correct figure is 805,000, 3020 the correct figure is 756,297, 3040 the correct figure is 15,820, 3060 40,000, 3080 197,000, 3100 the correct figure is 165,086, 3120 375,000, 3140 210,000, 3210 $126,096, 3314 zero, 3420 15,000, 3490 20,000, 3500 the correct figure is 40,324, 3530 1,500, 3531 150,000, 3530 zero, 3610 80,000, 3612 56,956, 3750 122,840, 3760 16,000, –

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay, take a breath.

President Winnecke: Let’s get through this –

Councilmember Raben: Can we get through this –

Councilmember Tornatta: Yeah, I understand, I’ve got to catch up on what I’ve got here.

Councilmember Raben: Oh, excuse me.

Councilmember Tornatta: Okay, thanks.

Councilmember Raben: 3850 the correct figure is $495,509, 3860 650,618, 3890 zero with the intent of moving that to the 911 account, 4220 4,577, 4231 as listed, that needs to remain in as 100,000, 4433 zero. All other 2, 3, and 4000 accounts as they are listed and I make that in the form of a motion.

Councilmember Tornatta: Second.

President Winnecke: We have a motion and a second. And before we have discussion, we’re going to change the tape.

(Tape Change)

President Winnecke: Now, questions or discussion? Mrs. Abell?

Councilmember Abell: The 100,000, I think Sandie has told me –

Councilmember Raben: That, as of late afternoon, the information I was given is that there is a new proposal on the Commissioners’ desks, there was only one bid and the bid is in the amount requested. So...we had hoped that that would come in somewhere between what was submitted and what was budgeted last year but it came in at the 100,000, and only one bidder, so...

Councilmember Abell: Okay. I think you read a number 3535 as 3530. I think you meant 3535 at zero.

Councilmember Raben: 3535 zero, yes.

President Winnecke: I would just make one observation and then we’ll call for a vote. I think this is, and this is probably not the year to do it, but this county needs to look at – he didn’t ask me to say this – but the fees that we pay our attorneys on the county side, we pay half the rate that the city does. And I think that’s, at some point, is not healthy. So at some point we’re going to have to, I think, come back and look at Legal Services. Roll call vote please.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Tornatta?

Councilmember Tornatta: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Sutton?

Councilmember Sutton: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Abell?

Councilmember Abell: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Goebel?

Councilmember Goebel: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Raben?

Councilmember Raben: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: Councilmember Wortman?

Councilmember Wortman: Yes.

Teri Lukeman: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

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