VANDERBURGH COUNTY

BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

OCTOBER 25, 2011

The Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners met in session this 25^th day of October, 2011 at 5:00 p.m. in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Lloyd Winnecke presiding.

President Winnecke: Good evening. I would like to call to order the October 25^th meeting of the Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners. We’ll begin with attendance roll call please.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Here.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Here.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Here.

President Winnecke: Would you please stand and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance?

(The Pledge of Allegiance was given.)

President Winnecke: Okay, I thought I would begin with introductions from our Youth Resource visitors. So, just turn the microphone on and say your name and your year in school and the school you represent.

Lana Dippel: Hi, I’m Lana Dippel. I’m a Sophomore at Memorial.

Ellen Dippel: Hi, I’m Ellen Dippel. I’m a Senior at Memorial.

Amanda Steinback: I’m Amanda Steinback. I’m a Senior at Reitz.

McKenzie Batten: I’m McKenzie Batten. I’m a Junior at Memorial.

Jessica Collins: I’m Jessica Collins. I’m a Senior at Castle.

President Winnecke: Welcome everyone.

President Winnecke: Okay, first, we’ll begin with, under action items our contracts, leases and agreements. First, from Superior Court, independent contractor agreement with South Evansville Community Outreach for space, use of space for support groups. This is to rent space at the community center at 756 Line Street to the Superior Court. This is for two weekly substance abuse support groups at a rent of $1,500 for a six month period. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Melcher: So moved.

Commissioner Abell: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Also, a similar contract with Evansville, South Evansville Community Outreach for child care and meal services for the provision by this group for meals and babysitting for the bi-weekly support groups to which we just referred in return for a payment of $346.66 per month. As in the other item, this is budgeted in the Superior Court budget. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Melcher: So moved.

Commissioner Abell: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next is a memorandum of understanding with the University of Southern Indiana for the purpose of providing research and reporting regarding the various Vanderburgh County treatment courts. USI will be compensated at the rate of $5,000 for this service by payments of $2,500 in April of 2012 and a final payment of $2,500 in December of 2012. These payments will be made out of grant funds available to the court. I would consider a motion to approve the MOU.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next we have an independent contractor agreement with Toy Widmer for contractual services for the Juvenile Division of the Superior Court. It replaces two prior agreements between she and the court at a cost of $1,300 per month. This comes out of the courts improvement grant, and the list of duties as assigned is on the contract that’s before us. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next, from the Prosecutors’s Office, a Superior Court Byrne grant agreement. This grant runs for 12 months, beginning January 12, 2012 and is for federal funds in the amount of $75,961 which will be matched by local funds in the same amount which are appropriated to the Superior Court for this purpose. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next we have the County Auditor Xerox copier lease agreement. I’ve lost my place here. I had all of that. I’m going from memory, does this replace, this replaces.... a two year term, and–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Five year. It’s for a five year term, and it replaces 17 existing printers and copiers, and the cost of it for the three copiers will be $222.54 per month. We should have savings of about $2,500 over the five year life of the lease.

President Winnecke: I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Melcher: So moved.

Commissioner Abell: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote, please.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next, under the Commissioners, the Old Courthouse lease agreement with New Visions Counseling. This is for a two year term running from November 15, 2011 to November 14, 2013, and giving the tenant two options to extend the term for two years per each option. The rent will be $7,800 per year. This is a new, private counseling service. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: The Old Courthouse also, a lease agreement with David Miller and Toby Ellis. These guys are actually moving to a new space in the basement, and the aforementioned New Visions Counseling is moving to their old, their current space, but they will be moving to, they will move to suite B4. Their rent will decrease from $305.91 per month to $300 per month, as the space is in the basement, as I mentioned. The lease is for one year beginning December 1 of this year through November 30, 2012. I would entertain a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next, also with the Old Courthouse, a lease renewal with Aids Resource Group for one new year term, one new one year term from November 1, 2011 to October 31, 2012. The rent is increased from $1,035.43 per month to $1,038.55 per month. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion?

Commissioner Abell: I just have a question about the Old Courthouse in general. How much full are we?

Marissa Nichoalds: Around 85 percent.

Commissioner Abell: 85?

Marissa Nichoalds: Uh-huh.

President Winnecke: Any other questions? Roll call vote please.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next, 2012 employee health insurance contract. Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: We, the Commissioners have sent a memo out to all the county employees telling them that we were going to discuss this briefly tonight, and we will actually discuss it and vote on it next week. This is a renewal of our health insurance policy that we have with Welborn HMO. There have been, there are going to be a few minor changes. I can give you, this evening, some of the changes that I am aware of. To keep the premium within the amount that has been allotted to us by the County Council, which is about ten million dollars out of the General Fund, we will be making the minor changes, such as office visit co-pay is currently at ten dollars, the change will go to a $20 co-pay for a General Practitioner, and a $30 co-pay if you see a specialist. The urgent care currently is at a $25 co-pay, it will go to a $75 co-pay. The emergency room co-pay is currently $50, it will go to $200. In patient hospital co-pay is at $100 and will stay at $100. The prescription co-pay is at $10 and will stay at $10, which my understanding is that the prescription co-pays were the big concern of most employees. That’s generic, the prescription brand name co-pay will go, is at $20, will stay at $20. I think those are the biggest changes, and it reflects a nine percent increase over last year’s premium, but yet by increasing the co-pays to the amount we have, and we do have one other change I have neglected to mention was that the, right now we do not have a deductible on any of our policies, and there will be a $250 deductible. So, you will be meeting, the employees will meet the first $250 of their expenses, and after that the insurance will pay it. This will have a limit of $1,000 per household. In other words, if you have eight children, you will not be meeting $250 on every, all eight people, only on enough to reach $1,000, and after that the insurance company pays the full amount. I know these are a little less coverage than what we have now, but this does keep us within our premium rates and we can continue to offer the insurance to our employees with us paying 92 percent and them paying eight percent. From the e-mails that I’ve gotten that seemed to be the biggest concern. That will be on our agenda next week.

President Winnecke: So, on the deductible, that is a new item entirely, $250 per person, with a household cap of $1,000. The office visit $10 to $20, and what was the specialist, it’s $20 and goes to $30?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

President Winnecke: And, the ER from $50 to $200, and what was the next one?

Commissioner Abell: The emergency room from $50 to $200, ane urgent care from $25 to $75.

President Winnecke: No, the one after ER.

Commissioner Abell: Oh, that was the prescriptions, the generic prescriptions are at $10 and will stay at $10.

President Winnecke: What’s the $100 that will stay at $100?

Commissioner Abell: Oh, the in-patient hospital.

President Winnecke: Oh, okay.

Commissioner Abell: I’m sorry.

President Winnecke: I couldn’t read my writing.

Commissioner Abell: $100 and stay at $100, correct. Actually, one of the reasons we were able to keep that one at $100 is because that doesn’t get used as much, we don’t have as many people in the hospital. We use, we saw the ones where we’re getting the most use and that’s where we had to make some changes.

President Winnecke: Any questions? Steve? Marissa, if you would, if you would summarize these changes and make sure we send an e-mail to all of the county employees outlining these changes, tell them that we’re going to consider this plan at our meeting next week. Some people have provided e-mails to us, but if they would like to come and speak next week, they’re welcome to, of if they would just like to provide additional commentary, that’s fine too.

Commissioner Abell: I’ll get with you on this.

President Winnecke: Okay, anything else on health insurance before we move on? Okay, next is the 2012 employee dental contract. This is a renewal of the dental health options for county employees. It requires no funding by the county, it’s completely paid for by the employee payment of premiums. This year by adding a fourth tier of coverage, which is for a single parent with children, will result in a savings of $34 a month. Otherwise, the premiums are increased over last year as follows; the employee only from $26.78 to $29.80, the employee plus spouse $54.96 to $62.30, employee plus family $93.83 to $102.50, and the new tier employee with dependents, $68.50. Again, this is funded entirely by the employee. I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: Just as a point of discussion, I’m wondering if it makes sense to make the final vote on it along with the health insurance, just for consistency sake.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: You certainly can do that, they’re entirely different. I mean, they’re with different groups, so, it doesn’t hurt if you want to approve it tonight.

President Winnecke: What’s the pleasure? I just thought of that after the motion was made.

Commissioner Abell: I’ll be happy to withdraw this, in case people who come next week to talk about health insurance might have a question.

Commissioner Melcher: I’m okay with that.

President Winnecke: Okay. So, the motion and second are both withdrawn. Madelyn, or Marissa, sorry, you’re Madelyn, Marissa, if you would also include in this e-mail the specifics on the dental. Then if people would like to comment or come and appear before to talk about that, that would be great. Okay, next, under Health Department, the customer order with Patterson Dental for digital x-ray equipment and software for the Community Dental Clinic. The Health Department has sought three quotes to supply this needed equipment for the clinic. The most responsible and responsive and least expensive quote was received from Patterson Dental Supply, Inc, with a quote of $17,314 for the sensor, $6,145 for the software, and $25,968 for the x-ray equipment. I believe this is funded through grant funding. Is that right, Marissa or Ted?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yes, it is by the Health Department. It’s actually from the Indiana Local Health Department Trust Account, which is maintained by the Indiana Department of Health.

President Winnecke: Okay. So, I would consider a motion to approve.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? Roll call vote.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Abell?

Commissioner Abell: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Melcher?

Commissioner Melcher: Yes.

Madelyn Grayson: President Winnecke?

President Winnecke: Yes.

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Next, department head reports?

President Winnecke: Any new business to come before the Commissioners? Any old business to come before the Commissioners?

President Winnecke: Any public comment to come before the Commissioners?

Commissioner Melcher: Is Bill coming up?

President Winnecke: I think he’s just wandering up here.

Commissioner Melcher: Have we had a chance to contact Vectren about coming?

President Winnecke: I have, they’re getting some dates for me in November–

Commissioner Melcher: Okay.

President Winnecke: – I’m trying, we’re just trying to work out a date.

Commissioner Melcher: Thank you.

President Winnecke: Consent agenda, I would consider a motion to approve the consent agenda.

Commissioner Melcher: I wanted to ask something about that before we went.

President Winnecke: Sure.

Commissioner Melcher: The automobiles came out, and I know I sent an e-mail back, and I think Marsha had sent one back too. Can we pull that out of the consent and just hear that individually?

President Winnecke: Sure, just make a motion to pull it out.

Commissioner Melcher: So, I’ll make a motion to pull it out and hear it individually afterwards.

President Winnecke: That would be the Commissioners appropriation to fund vehicles for Superior Court.

Commissioner Abell: I’ll second that motion.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Questions or discussion? All in favor say aye.

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Winnecke: Opposed?

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Okay.

Commissioner Melcher: I’ll make the motion to accept the consent agenda except that item.

Commissioner Abell: Second.

President Winnecke: A motion and a second. Madelyn?

Madelyn Grayson: The consent items for the October 25^th meeting are as follows; approval of the October 11, 2011 Commission meeting minutes, employment changes for the Commissioners approval this evening, there’s only one for the Co-Op Extension, the County Engineer has pay request number 138 for TIF projects in the amount of $54,437.94; the County Clerk has the September 2011 monthly report; Hillcrest Washington Youth Home third quarter fees for service; Weights and Measures September 16^th through October 15, 2011 monthly report; the IBAP Gatekeeper September 2011 monthly report, and there are department head reports from the County Engineer, the Ozone Officer and, let me see there was one more, Burdette Park.

President Winnecke: All in favor say aye.

All Commissioners: Aye.

President Winnecke: Opposed?

(Motion approved 3-0)

President Winnecke: Steve?

Commissioner Melcher: I know in the past we’ve had different department heads come up and talk about vehicles and they’ve had to give us, you know, a couple different, pricing from a couple of dealerships. I didn’t know if we had that or not. I think I forwarded it to you, Ted.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: You did, Commissioner Melcher, and the law is that if the anticipated purchase price is under $50,000, the purchasing agent, which in this case would be the Superior Court may make a purchase under the small purchase policies established by the purchasing agency, which would be the court, are under rules adopted by the governmental body. The governmental body has not adopted any rules, so that in as much as it’s under $50,000, the law does not require that they seek other quotes. They did not, however, they were granted a governmental deduction for both of the vehicles that they’re purchasing.

Commissioner Melcher: So, that’s individually $50,000?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: No, no, the total purchase, if that total purchase was anticipated to be over $50,000, then you would have to seek quotes. In this case, the total purchase is, I don’t know, it’s just under $48,000.

Commissioner Abell: For three vehicles?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Two vehicles, there were only two.

Commissioner Abell: I thought it was for three.

Commissioner Melcher: It was three.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Well, they do mention three, but then in the documentation, which Madelyn provided for us this afternoon, there’s only two vehicles that they’re actually purchasing at this time.

Commissioner Melcher: Because it was around $75,000, that’s why I was–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yeah–

Commissioner Abell: (Inaudible. Microphone not on.)

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Sure.

Bernie Faraone: I’m Bernie Faraone from Juvenile Court. I submitted the request. Juvenile Court was actually seeking the purchase of three vehicles at $22,000 a piece, and we needed extra money to transfer the protective cages and decals and all the special equipment that are in the current vehicles. So, that’s why we estimated it at $75,000. I did have a chance today, I’ve only been in–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Excuse me, I just want to say, so I don’t sound like a total idiot, I have the paperwork that Madelyn sent me and it only covers two vehicles and the purchase price for those two vehicles is $21,950 for one of them and, let me see where the second one is here.

Bernie Faraone: They would have been the same.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yeah, no, it was a different price for the second vehicle, and then there are two vehicle stickers that were supplied by the purchasing agency, and that’s all that was mentioned in the documents that you sent, Madelyn. So, I don’t know anything about the third vehicle.

Bernie Faraone: Yeah, that–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: If it was over 75, if it was over $50,000 you have to obtain quotes from two other agencies.

Bernie Faraone: Sure, what’s attached there is when we initially investigated vehicles for replacement. We contacted, we wanted to see if we could piggy back on to the Police Department’s system, which I believe our office has in the past. Then I was directed to the fleet manager at Town & Country Ford. I told them at that time that we wanted quotes for both the Crown Victoria 2011, which this is the last year that it’s being sold and it’s a police vehicle, and I also asked them for a quote on the other vehicle, which was like, a lot, $27,000-$28,000 with the reduced price. So, he gave us both of those, but in my discussing this matter with my boss, Judge Niemeier, he wanted us to go for the three cheapest vehicles to replace our oldest three vehicles, and they would all be like roughly $22,000 a piece.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: In that case, that would be $66,000 which exceeds $50,000-

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: – and you would have to seek three quotes–

Bernie Faraone: I didn’t know that.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: – I’m telling you.

Bernie Faraone: Sure.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: You need three quotes from three different agencies, and you only got one from Hendrickson. I thought you were fine based on what Mrs. Grayson sent me, because it only described two vehicles, but since you’re going for three, we’ll need to seek quotes.

Bernie Faraone: Is there, with that knowledge and the Judge is out of the...with that knowledge and the Judge will return tomorrow, is there a chance we could still...I initially submitted it the only way I knew how was to ask for it to be applied to the General Fund. I got notified that there’s a CCD Fund.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yeah, I think the thing is, the fund that you want to take the money out of is not a problem. There are sufficient funds available. The problem is that you are making a purchase which exceeds a total of $50,000, and to do that you have to get quotes from three different agencies.

Bernie Faraone: Sure, my understanding is–

President Winnecke: I think the process is, and correct me if I’m wrong, we meet again next Tuesday night, if, in the course of the next week, you could get the three quotes, or the two additional quotes to get to three. We could consider the request of using CCD money–

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

President Winnecke: –which keeps the General Fund balance in tact, which was a goal of the, I think, a goal of the Commissioners and the Council, and then once we approve that, then you could take that approval to the County Council–

Bernie Faraone: In December.

President Winnecke: –at their December meeting, and they would then make the final approval on the expenditure of CCD funds. Is that accurate, Ted?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yes.

Bernie Faraone: Then, I’ve got another question or two.

President Winnecke: Sure.

Bernie Faraone: My understanding I was going to come today to see that our request for the General Fund appropriation be withdrawn and have it put back on, which was for tomorrow, and have it be put back on for November for the CCD.

President Winnecke: We’ll do that.

Bernie Faraone: Is there a chance that if I talk to the Judge, well, the Judge will return tomorrow, see if he wants us to get other quotes for three vehicles, or can we still withdraw–

President Winnecke: Here’s what we’ll do, we’ll not take action on the request that’s before us tonight–

Bernie Faraone: Sure.

President Winnecke: – we’ll instruct Marissa to put on the agenda for next Tuesday consideration of purchase of three vehicles from, using CCD funds to do so.

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

President Winnecke: Then, we would, assuming that passes–

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

President Winnecke: –then you could take that to the County Council–

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

President Winnecke: –for their final blessing.

Bernie Faraone: Again, we need quotes from how many different sources?

President Winnecke: Three.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Three. You’ve got one from Hendrickson–

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: – so, you would have to get one from like Tri-State and one from, I don’t know, whoever, wherever you want to get them actually.

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

President Winnecke: But, if you got those to us, we’ll put you on the agenda next week.

Bernie Faraone: Okay, I just didn’t want to lose the opportunity because–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Excuse me, and I was going to make a comment about that. I see that there was something written in here in these materials that these things are not going to be available very long–

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: –and if you want to get them you need to get them. Once again, if you were only going to go for two vehicles, you’re okay as you are.

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: But, to go for three vehicles you’re going to have to get the quotes.

Bernie Faraone: Sure.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: So, I think as Commissioner Winnecke has stated, if he does come back next Tuesday–

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: –we should be ready to–

Bernie Faraone: Okay, and I can provide this to the Judge tomorrow and see which course of action he wants me to take.

President Winnecke: Right.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Be sure and tell him, I did speak to him today, but it was about something else entirely–

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: – he’s in Washington, I think, or wherever he was–

Bernie Faraone: Indianapolis.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: –yeah, Indianapolis, but be sure he understands we could not decide to go two now and in a week decide we’re going to go ahead and get the third one. It’s either two now and then wait a year and then maybe decide to buy another one. Or three, in which case you’ll need to get three quotes.

Bernie Faraone: Okay, thank you so much for that.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Yes, sir.

Commissioner Melcher: I’ve got one more question, you said you were going to spend some money also to transfer stuff off the old vehicles?

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Commissioner Melcher: Do you have that dollar value? Because wouldn’t he want to include that as a side, beside the three vehicles, if we’re going to take it all out of the same fund?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: I’m not sure I know what you mean.

Commissioner Melcher: Well--

President Winnecke: To equip the vehicles.

Commissioner Melcher: –to equip the vehicles.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Oh.

Commissioner Melcher: They were going to strip the old ones and put that, some of that equipment on the new ones.

Bernie Faraone: We included that in the, we didn’t itemize it, but we figured three times 22 is 66, we asked for 75, and we thought the rest of it would be for to put new decals on the new cars and transfer the equipment and cages that protect the inmates from the employees in all of the vehicles.

President Winnecke: So, it’s included in the $75,000.

Commissioner Melcher: So, it’s included in the $75,000, okay. I just wanted to get it straight so you don’t have to do this again.

Bernie Faraone: Sure, I appreciate it.

President Winnecke: No, I think, we’ll get you on the agenda next week.

Bernie Faraone: Okay.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Then, I note you’re getting a trade in value on top of it, so that price is going to go down a little–

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: –not much, but it will go down somewhat.

Commissioner Abell: I have a question.

Bernie Faraone: Sure.

Commissioner Abell: What is the policy for these vehicles? Do the employees that drive these vehicles take them home with them, or do they leave them here?

Bernie Faraone: No, there’s one employee that’s our, he’s our policy officer assigned to the court, it’s Rick Johnson, he does a number of different roles, but he’s at 24 hour call. He serves our, the equivalent of adult arrest warrants, our pick up orders. He does our house arrests, our global positioning system programs, he does drug screenings, and he does a lot of transportation in town here. He’s our liaison with the Police, Sheriff Departments and the School Corporation. He’s the only one that has access to a car 24 hours, the others stay right outside our building, or the detention center which is located two blocks down the street allows us to park our vehicles there, the court cars there.

Commissioner Abell: Okay, so they don’t take them home with them, they leave them here and use them as needed, and that type thing.

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Commissioner Abell: Okay, and is three how many you have? Or do you have more than this?

Bernie Faraone: We have five.

Commissioner Abell: You have five vehicles.

Bernie Faraone: Yes.

Commissioner Abell: Thank you.

President Winnecke: Okay, we’ll see you next week.

Bernie Faraone: Thank you very much.

President Winnecke: Thanks for staying with us. Any other business to come before the Commissioners? Hearing none, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

Commissioner Abell: So moved.

Commissioner Melcher: Second.

President Winnecke: We stand adjourned.

(The meeting was adjourned at 5:29 p.m.)

CONSENT ITEMS:

Commissioners:

Approval of the October 11, 2011 Commission Meeting Minutes.

Hillcrest Washington Youth Home Third Quarter Fees for Services.

IBAP Gatekeeper: September 2011 Monthly Report.

Commissioners: Appropriation Request to Fund Vehicles: Superior Court (Deferred)

Employment Changes:

Co-Op Extension (1)                 County Clerk (3)                       Coroner (1)

VCCC (2)                                  Sheriff (2)                                  Superior Court (1)

Circuit Court (1)                        Election Office (2)

County Engineer: Pay Request No. 138: TIF Projects.

County Clerk: September 2011 Monthly Report.

Weights & Measures: September 16-October 15, 2011 Monthly Report.

Department Head Reports:

County Engineer                       Burdette Park                           Ozone Office

Those in Attendance:

Lloyd Winnecke                        Marsha Abell                            Stephen Melcher

Brian Gerth                               Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.                    Marissa Nichoalds

Madelyn Grayson                     Lana Dippel                              Ellen Dippel

Amanda Steinback                   McKenzie Batten                      Jessica Collins

Bernie Faraone                         Others Unidentified                   Members of Media

VANDERBURGH COUNTY

BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

Lloyd Winnecke, President

Marsha Abell, Vice President

Stephen Melcher, Member

(Recorded and transcribed by Madelyn Grayson.)