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Vanderburgh County
Board of Commissioners
October 18, 1999
 

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The Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners met in session this 18th day of October at 5:48 p.m. in Room 307 of the Civic Center Complex with President Bettye Lou Jerrel presiding.
 
Introductions and Pledge of Allegiance

President Jerrel: I'd like to call the Board of Commissioners' meeting to order. I apologize that we're a few minutes late. We had another meeting run over. At this time I would like to introduce to you our Superintendent of County Buildings, Tony Greubel; next to him is Joe Harrison, Jr., our County Attorney; Commissioner Pat Tuley; at my far left, Charlene Timmons, our Recording Secretary; Bill Fluty, Deputy Auditor; Commissioner Richard Mourdock; and my name is Bettye Lou Jerrel and if you would join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I'm going to ask our Superintendent of Buildings to try to find somebody now. Why don't you leave and see if you can find somebody. We've got a real long zoning meeting after this and this got so bad, our mikes did, last week the rumbling it was awful and our minutes are verbatim. 
 
Approval of minutes

President Jerrel: Okay, at this time I would like to call for approval of the minutes of the last meeting.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Certification of Executive Session

President Jerrel: We did have an Executive Session.

Commissioner Mourdock: And I'll move approval of the summary minutes of tonight's Executive Session which dealt solely with county personnel matters. 

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: (Inaudible.)

President Jerrel: Yes, the meeting took place from 4:40 until 5:40. 
 
Open bids - VC99-10-02, Oak Hill Road sanitary sewer project

President Jerrel: The first item on the agenda is the opening of bids for Oak Hill sanitary sewer.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move the opening of bids for VC99-10-02 for the Oak Hill Road sanitary sewer project and...well, let me do that as one.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Open bids - VC99-10-01, Vanderburgh Industrial Park

Commissioner Mourdock: And the opening of bids for VC99-10-01 which is for VIP, John, which is...?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Vanderburgh Industrial Park.

Commissioner Mourdock: Vanderburgh Industrial Park.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Tuley: Sorry.
 
Final reading - Ordinance amending Chapter 15.20 - Fences

President Jerrel: The next item we'll go ahead because he'll need to open those. It looks like there is a large number. We're ready for the final reading of an ordinance amending Chapter 15.20. 

Commissioner Mourdock: And Mr. Lehman from the Building Authority was here last week for the preliminary. I think it's appropriate to see if there is anyone with any comments regarding that ordinance. Seeing none, I would move on final approval or final reading the ordinance amending Chapter 15.20 of the county code regarding fences.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered. I'd like to call for a roll call vote. Commissioner Tuley?

Commissioner Tuley: Yes.

President Jerrel: Commissioner Mourdock?

Commissioner Mourdock: Yes.

President Jerrel: And I vote yes. 
 
Gary Heck - Welfare to Work progress report

President Jerrel: Next item on the agenda is any group or individual that wishes to address the Board.

Commissioner Mourdock: You skipped one.

President Jerrel: Oh, I did. You're next on the agenda. I just jumped right over you. Phil Lieberman would you like to come forward? You're not coming forward.

Gary Heck: I'm not Phil, but I'll come up anyway. 

President Jerrel: Okay. When you get behind that podium I can't see you.

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, we need to get a lower podium.

Gary Heck: I know I have lost a few pounds, but I did better than I thought. I have one correction to this written report.

President Jerrel: Gary, give us your name.

Gary Heck: Gary L. Heck, Phillip Lieberman & Associates and I'm representing the IBAP/Gatekeeper program. On page four of your report, the third paragraph down, I have an incomplete sentence there that I need to point out and take full blame for. I'm going to go ahead and verbally correct it and then I'll send you a corrected written version later. It's a paragraph that starts:

In the spring of 1996 the six month concurrent... There should be a period behind the Vanderburgh County W2W Council and then I need to add the Welfare to Work Council made a recommendation to the Board of Commissioners and then I'll get that sentence cleaned up for you. I wanted you to know that I did recognize it after the fact and I would have caught it if I hadn't of had to get down here right away. Just to let you know where we are to date we started this particular project with a contract with the county in July of 1997 and it was retroactive back to July 1. We opened up an office at the C.K. Newsome Community Center on August 25th and then on March 12th we moved to a larger facility inside the same structure doubling our floor space. Since August 25th through last Friday we've had 2,249 requests for information and applications and we've received 1,220 of those applications back that we have been working on. Within the four service categories that we have there has been 384 families served with 630 children in the child care service area. Now this particular one is a great service to Vanderburgh County because we're the only county to my knowledge that has a child care program over and above what the federal government and the state also provide and it has come in handy a few times in our history, so I just wanted to point that out to you. Transportation users, there have been 99 users. Job training and skill enhancement, which is what this particularly works for, there is 49 users to date and in the safety net 503 users and that's for a total of 1,053 altogether. I won't go through all of the different dollar amounts, but I would like to go back to the third page to give you a little bit of history about what progress we've made and what some of the challenges have been, how the task force who oversees this program and then makes recommendations to you as the Board of Commissioners has helped work through some of the adjustments over this two year period and also to tell you where we stand today. When this program was first being considered in its inception at that time there wasn't as much money in child care as there is today. There wasn't a federal welfare reform movement that the federal government put additional child care dollars into and there wasn't the additional state assistance that came from that, so when we were...when this program first started Vanderburgh County received in child care assistance about $800,000. In 1996 that went to about $2.6 million mostly because we had done a very good job about keeping a fully documented eligibility waiting list. Last year we had about $2.5 million in child care assistance and this year we have about $5.7 million. That has greatly reduced the need or demand for the child care which at the time this program was originally started was where 45 percent of all the revenues were going to go so that is one of those blessings in disguise kind of things. Also, I guess we did have the opportunity where when people came in the door if they qualified for one program or the other we could have funneled them different ways than they would which would have utilized more of the money...would have spent a lot more of Vanderburgh County's money, let's just put it that way. Since we didn't do that there is a lot more resources that are there locally then could have been spent in that area. The other thing is that when this program first started to be eligible for the state program you used to be able to be at 190 percent of the federal poverty level. Today the state has added 143 percent, so if you were in a different state in the country federally you could still be at 190 percent and qualify for some type of child care assistance and that's not the case in Indiana, so anybody that is over the 143 percent but less than the 150 percent that the Gatekeeper program has we're also able to offer some child care services to working individuals that wouldn't be eligible otherwise and we still are able to serve a few there so that in and of itself is a good thing. As we go down and we look through the program safety net has been one of the largest programs and the one that has probably made the greatest impact and that's the ability to repair a personal automobile or to replace household appliances for folks. There has been 503 families that have benefitted from that program and I believe that before the end of the year we'll be able to utilize all the dollars that are currently in that particular program. The employment and job training skills enhancement has been the toughest one to work on.

Commissioner Mourdock: Time out, Gary, for a second.

Gary Heck: Yes, sir.

Commissioner Mourdock: That paragraph you're referring to on the fourth page says 220 vouchers and you just said the safety net has used 503.

Gary Heck: That particular one is actually...I'm sorry, I should have pointed this out. Page three to the top paragraph on page four all came from the report from July 1 of 1998, so all of those particular ones just to give you some historical perspective this is where we were one year into the program and then those numbers from the front is where we...I probably need to put this in a little better order to let you know that, but that actually was where we stood at the halfway point. 

Commissioner Mourdock: So we've more than doubled?

Gary Heck: We have more than doubled and that's...when we get back to the second paragraph on page four where we addressed that there were some changes in that particular program. We had a 133 percent increase in that particular program so we have been able to more than double in that particular program. It's still a tough program because quite frankly individuals that are working 25 or more hours a week find it difficult to commit to going to full-time going to school someplace else or taking educational classes somewhere else, so it is a little bit of a struggle and one of things that the Welfare to Work Local Planning Council is considering doing is asking the Commissioners to extend the six month time frame to either a year or perhaps 18 months which would allow them to take a class or two at a time instead of having to take quite a few classes in that six month time period and that is something that would probably be very helpful as well. Some of the things that we did once the Commissioners approved some of the changes like the change in where the six months had to run concurrently to individual for each service category and also being able to include non-custodial parents to put them in a position where they could get some skill enhancement where they could pay child support and things better we were able to do mailings to all the current clients and then also just recently we completed sending home 23,500 letters that's to every child that is in the Evansville-Vanderburgh School Corporation system. A letter went home to their parents advising them about the program and we've had a tremendous response since that particular information piece went out. We were averaging anywhere from three to five people a day requesting applications and we're up more to the 15 to 18 times a day now so we expect to see quite a few more letters there as well. In addition, we also sent home application packets with all of the clients in the Habitat program. Tom Moor requested those so we were able to send those to them. Every one of those particular clients are in the same initiative based type of program, sweat equity, and they are all involved in work or other productive activities so that one is also very well received. At this point in time if you have some specific questions I'll try to address them. Just to let you know that the other child care program that is administered in this county currently there is about 1,043 families on that program and 2,004 children are being served with that particular program as well. It has a direct bearing on what assistance is needed in this particular program and we've been very fortunate in that the resources have been there and we've been able to identify the folks who qualify for the program and get them signed up and there is a lot of people who are able to remain involved in productive activity because their child care responsibilities are being...they're being assisted with those responsibilities.

President Jerrel: I just have a couple of questions on that six month issue for training and classes.

Gary Heck: Yes, ma'am.

President Jerrel: Have you done any research that you could define for us the kinds of classes? You know, what the majority of people have taken, where they have taken them? Are they USI classes, U of E classes, Ivy Tech, EVSC night school vocational programs? If we could see that and we know the length of time that those program cycles are that would be helpful, I think.

Gary Heck: There is a subcommittee of the task force that is being co-chaired by Kent Eskridge from the School Corporation and Jeff Amos and they are actually pulling together some of that. The majority of this particular service has been performed by either computer training vendors in the community and they would include Ivy Tech, Champion Computers. There is a project that is being worked through a collaboration of some of the inner city churches and they all have put together a collaboration computer training event. There has been classes at U of E and out at USI as well. 

President Jerrel: Okay, well that would be interesting to know.

Gary Heck: I'll make a note to make sure I get a follow-up report to you on that. 

Commissioner Mourdock: The training issue has been one that from day one has been troubling trying to get people in it. I'm not sure if the six month extension is the way to go or not. I'll certainly give it some thought. I mean, none of us know at this point. I guess I have one concern, Gary, and it's not on these pages but it's in a sense behind the pages. If we knew right now that our budget was going to be 25 percent less next year for this program in total would we change anything? I say that not based on anything other than watching how many people get on the riverboat. As you know, a hundred percent of the county's money for this comes from riverboat revenues and there is a lot of expectation that those numbers are starting to diminish a little bit, so I guess I would just pose that as a question to keep in the back of your mind if in fact we knew that number was going down should we look at something differently here?

Gary Heck: So you're not looking for an answer tonight?

Commissioner Mourdock: No. Only if you can tell me what our revenue will be at the end of the year.

Gary Heck: I'll take a...well, I guess not being a gambling person I probably shouldn't stab at that. I need also to point out that what is not included on this report was recently the Commissioners did approve a $30,000 demonstration project which will also come out of one of these particular categories. We are anticipating that the Welfare to Work Task Force will recommend that it comes out of child care since we also have the most resources in that area. So when you're looking at these there is $30,000 that has been accounted for and obligated that doesn't show up in this report, but I will make a note to make sure that it shows up with their approval and then coming back to you we would probably recommend that it comes out of that child care line item. 

Commissioner Mourdock: One other thought if you can track it, you sent out those 23,000 letters through the school system. You said your daily call rate is going from two to three calls a day up to 18?

Gary Heck: About 18.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'd be curious to know once you get those 18 calls how many people qualify under the auspices of this program.

Gary Heck: Okay.

Commissioner Mourdock: Because I'm sure there are some people who don't meet the qualifications. Probably half of the 18 will never follow through and get through the application and all.

Gary Heck: I'll make a note and make sure I get that back to you as well. The only other thing I would add is that we did share the information with the contractor to do a third party evaluation that the Welfare to Work Local Planning Council had requested and so that information has been turned over to a contractor and they are beginning their third party evaluation work.

Commissioner Mourdock: Good.

Gary Heck: So hopefully within the next couple of months we'll be getting some feedback on that as well.

Commissioner Tuley: Gary?

Gary Heck: Yes, sir.

Commissioner Tuley: Have you been able to...maybe this is something you need to look into, too. With the extended bus service has that had an affect on your clientele asking for transportation help?

Gary Heck: Not that I can...there has been a few requests. Most of the requests for the transportation services generally is temporary while their car is being repaired.

Commissioner Tuley: Okay.

Gary Heck: There just seems, for whatever reason, public transportation just isn't viewed very favorably in the sense that if people would prefer another means of transportation than having to ride the bus or a cab for that matter. The $50 assistance that we were able to offer a month goes pretty far in bus tokens. There was a price increase this past year and we went from being able to offer 76 tokens a month to 58 tokens a month because of the price increase, but I can't say that there has been a lot of increase in request because of the extended hours. I've seen a lot of folks that are grateful that the hours were extended because it did allow them to actually get a ride to work which they could previously and then in a lot of cases they could get a ride home on the bus because they were open...or the buses were going to run until 11:00 or 11:30 or whatever that extra time was.

Commissioner Mourdock: I know early on that was one of the issues we heard with some of the people on the job training side that they could get to where the training was going to take place--

Commissioner Tuley: But they couldn't get home.

Commissioner Mourdock: --but then once it was a night class by the end of the evening they couldn't get home.

Gary Heck: That was particularly true of the evening classes at Central is where we got that comment the most. I can't say that I have any information that would say that's no longer the case, but I'll try to find out for you.

Commissioner Tuley: The only other...really just a question because I was reading when you made reference to people...difficult for them to take a training class if they were already working 25 hours or so a week.

Gary Heck: Twenty-five hours or more. The minimum qualifications is that they're involved in productive activities at least 25 hours a week and when they tried to put together that same work schedule regardless of what those hours were and then take a class unless they're working or being able to take a class either late at night or on weekends it is very difficult for them to put together 14 hour days almost to take a class and work and that's where there was a reluctance in people signing up to take the assistance. At least that is the information that we've received. 

Commissioner Tuley: Okay. I'm just shaking my head because I don't know too many sitting around here that's got a college education or anything else that didn't do it working a heck of a lot harder than that.

Gary Heck: I can just report what our experience is.

Commissioner Tuley: No, I know. That's why I said I'm shaking my head. I'm tempted not to say anything, but at the same time, you know, if someone is offering you some money for some training--

Gary Heck: I think part of the problem was very few of us may have done it in a six month period of time.

Commissioner Tuley: That may be. 

Gary Heck: I think that is where a lot of the objection has come in just to say I can't take two or three classes in a week's time, but if I could do it over an 18 month period--

Commissioner Tuley: That might be a little more valid argument. 

Gary Heck: And that's why the subcommittee that Mr. Eskridge and Jeff Amos are looking at is studying that issue. 

President Jerrel: Thank you very much. We appreciate it.

Gary Heck: It's my pleasure, thank you. I'll get this other information back to you.

President Jerrel: Okay, thank you.

Gary Heck: Thanks.
 
Any group or individual wishing to address the Commission

President Jerrel: At this time is there any other group that would like to speak to the Commissioners before we move on?
 
John Stoll - County Engineer

President Jerrel: Hearing none, County Engineer.

John Stoll: The first two items I've got are street acceptance requests for recently constructed subdivisions. The first is for VCH Commercial Subdivision. The acceptance request is for 740 linear feet of Constellation Avenue and 260 linear feet of Galaxy Drive. This subdivision is off of Green River Road just north of Sugar Mill Apartments. It's on the east side of Green River. All the streets were constructed according to plans and it's recommended that they be accepted for maintenance by the county.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: The second request is for Baseline Park Subdivision. This is a commercial sub at the southeast corner of Baseline and 41. The acceptance request is for 1,350 linear feet of Neeley Street and 750 linear feet of Chad Street. It's recommended that these streets be accepted for maintenance by the county.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Mourdock: What were the names on those?

John Stoll: Neeley, N-e-e-l-e-y and Chad, C-h-a-d. The next item I've got is a request for me to sign off on the Notice of Intent letter for the Rule 5 application for Phase 3 of the Burkhardt Road project. This just basically provides all the information required for IDEM to issue the permit and when United Consulting prepared the letter they prepared it for my signature rather than the Commissioners.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the Notice of Intent letter.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: Next I would like authorization to get some prices for doing some additional striping on Virginia Street east of Cross Pointe Boulevard. Last week we got the section of Cross Pointe opened up west of...I mean, the section of Virginia Street opened up west of Cross Pointe Boulevard so now it does connect between Burkhardt and Cross Pointe and all that was striped when the roads were built, but the portion of Virginia east of Cross Pointe was not striped and given the fact that it's probably going to see quite a bit more traffic I would like to go ahead and stripe that in the same manner that the portion is west of Cross Pointe Boulevard.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval to authorize the additional striping for Virginia Street as requested.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: Ballpark numbers we think it will cost less than $5,000 to get that done. The final item I've got is a request for authorization to receive some price quotes for the replacement of Petersburg Road Bridge No. 1562. This is a 20 foot bridge on Petersburg Road just south of the Eagle Crossing Subdivision entrance. We can get this done inexpensively enough that we could do it on a quote basis rather than through bids, so I would like to pursue that.

Commissioner Mourdock: So your request is to authorize the advertisement?

John Stoll: Since it's quotes there won't be any advertisement.

Commissioner Mourdock: Just to seek the quotes?

John Stoll: Correct. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: That's all I have unless you've got any questions. 

President Jerrel: Did those letters get out last week?

John Stoll: Which?

President Jerrel: To Ms. Wolf.

John Stoll: No, it hasn't because I don't have any time schedules--

President Jerrel: Numbers yet.

John Stoll: --and all that outlined just yet.

President Jerrel: Okay, you did get that information that we had that Rose gave us?

John Stoll: On the funding?

President Jerrel: Yes.

John Stoll: Correct. The one thing we'll have to get figured out is time frames on right-of-way acquisition and things like that, so if I get a chance to talk to each of you I'll get that put together and we'll get it sent out to Mrs. Wolf.

President Jerrel: Thank you.
 
Erik Bentle - Superintendent of County Garage

President Jerrel: County Garage.

Erik Bentle: The first thing I have is you've got my weekly work schedule and the rest of my report. The other thing I would like to bring up is there was a mistake on our paving percentage. Somehow or another one road got forgot so we're going to go back tomorrow and finish it. That is Springdale Drive off of Little Schaefer to the dead-end. It's 740 feet so we're going to go in tomorrow and do that and we should be done with it Wednesday. 

Commissioner Mourdock: How did you discover that one got missed?

Erik Bentle: When we started doing our tally on everything nobody could remember doing it so we went out today and checked.

Commissioner Mourdock: How about that, there is a method to the madness. When you keep track of the records and it didn't add up it told you something was wrong. Great. 

Erik Bentle: So we're going to start it tomorrow and we're going to finish it Wednesday. The lot at the garage as far as the remediation we had to cap the lot with two and a half inches of asphalt. That has been done and the lot looks real good.

Commissioner Mourdock: You talking Jack's pile?

Erik Bentle: Jack...no. Not Jack's pile, the rest of the garage where the old tanks used to be. All that had to be sealed so all that is done. We're striping out there this week for parking. The other thing I have is the last page on your report is a travel request for a road workshop for me and Mark Taylor for the 12th of November. It's maintaining and maintenance of gravel roads. 

Commissioner Tuley: You don't have many of those though, do we? 

Erik Bentle: We've got about 30 miles of them still.

Commissioner Tuley: Do we still have 30 miles?

Erik Bentle: Yeah.

Commissioner Mourdock: And I think...do you have the original or do I have the original?

Commissioner Tuley: I think we all do.

Charlene Timmons: Maybe we all do.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, part by part here. First of all, I move acceptance of the County Garage weekly report.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Mourdock: And I move approval of the travel request as submitted.

Erik Bentle: It's a one day workshop and it will be Friday the 12th.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Erik Bentle: That's all I have.

President Jerrel: Okay, thank you.

Erik Bentle: Thanks.

Commissioner Tuley: One question.

President Jerrel: Sure.

Commissioner Tuley: Apparently you got the Old Henderson Road thing taken care of because I never heard back from that lady?

Erik Bentle: Yes, sir.

Commissioner Tuley: So I appreciate that. The other thing is can you check out, did we replace a culvert or something on Schaeffer Road?

Erik Bentle: Schaeffer Road, I think we did, yes.

Commissioner Tuley: Can you go out and drive by there? The same bus driver, Kenny, who is always letting me know where things are at and what is going on apparently just because of settling, I think, it's--

Erik Bentle: Well, we've got a list of about six of them that we replaced that I think Wednesday they are going to have a patch crew out doing the rest of them and we should be caught up on all of them. 

Commissioner Tuley: Thank you.

Commissioner Mourdock: Erik, I had that most uncomfortable feeling I get every year about this time. On Saturday I was going through the remote and I suddenly saw this game in Colorado where the snow was flying reminding me it was about that time of year. How are we for our salt supplies and our sand supplies?

Erik Bentle: Right now our salt barn holds approximate 300 tons and we've probably got 250 tons in it, so right now we're sitting good for anything that will happen for a while. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, all set obviously with the budget in for next year?

Erik Bentle: Yes, sir. Everything is going on schedule. 

Commissioner Mourdock: And trucks to dispense that material with, how are we doing on that?

Erik Bentle: We're sitting fine with the trucks as long as Miller holds their end of the bargain up for the 14th of November.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, that's the magic day, the 14th?

Erik Bentle: That's the magic day, yes. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. 

Erik Bentle: If not we'll be running two trucks short until that happens. It would be just a little bit more workload on the guys, but they can handle it.

President Jerrel: Okay, thank you.
 
Tony Greubel - Superintendent of County Buildings

President Jerrel: Okay, County Attorney. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Could you go to Steve or Tony?

President Jerrel: Oh, sure. Tony. 

Tony Greubel: I got a letter today from Edward Jones, Associate Vice President for Academic Affairs at USI, and that is in regards to a meeting this Friday for the Regional Economic Development Committee. USI is hosting that. They're doing a lot of the groundwork down here for the group up in Indianapolis. First of all, I was wondering if any of the Commissioners were planning on attending that this Friday, but it's a half day. It's from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. It's not mandatory or anything.

Commissioner Mourdock: This is the Graham Toft group? 

Tony Greubel: Yeah.

Commissioner Mourdock: No, I will not be able to make it.

President Jerrel: I may go out there, but I may not stay for four hours or however long that is. I may not be able to stay that long, so do you have someone that can go? 

Tony Greubel: I contacted...actually, the second part of this had to do with Ken Robinson. Let's see, I was sort of the liaison to help with that, getting the addresses and everything assembled, but Ken Robinson has actually been working with the IDEC on behalf of Vanderburgh County and I was going to propose maybe making him the official liaison. I can still assist him with smaller issues.

Commissioner Mourdock: Are you planning on being there?

Tony Greubel: I can be there if you like, but Ken cannot be there this Friday.

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I would suggest that, Tony, you take care of it. Bettye Lou, do you know is there any problem here in the office?

President Jerrel: No. No, that's fine. 

Tony Greubel: Okay.

Commissioner Mourdock: Consider yourself appointed. 

Tony Greubel: Should Mr. Robinson be on the committee though? We were thinking about that from the point where Gibson County has one of their people on it, Warrick does, Posey does.

President Jerrel: They all have them on there. I think that probably since everybody else has one he probably--

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, fair is fair.

President Jerrel: Yeah, he ought to be on also.

Tony Greubel: Okay. I'll show up for him this Friday then and get him up-to-date.

President Jerrel: And we can make it official the next time.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay.

President Jerrel: Is there anything else?

Tony Greubel: No, that's it.

President Jerrel: Did you get my United Way thing?

Tony Greubel: Yes.

President Jerrel: Okay.

Tony Greubel: We raised at least $4,000 so far for United Way. It's going to come in above that though. Not all the departments have turned in their money yet. 
 
Steve Craig - Burdette Park

President Jerrel: How about Burdette Park?

Steve Craig: The first thing I have is I wanted to suggest that we accept the Simms Painting Company's bid on the gelcoating of the two water slides. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: What was that amount?

Steve Craig: Uh, $29,328. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: And they were the low bid?

Steve Craig: Yes, sir.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay.

President Jerrel: Is there a motion?

Commissioner Mourdock: That was Simms Painting?

Steve Craig: Simms Painting Company.

President Jerrel: They've done that before for us.

Steve Craig: Yes.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the award to Simms as requested.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Steve Craig: Did you get my weekly worksheet?

President Jerrel: Yes. 

Steve Craig: That's all I had.
 
Weekly reports

President Jerrel: Is there a motion to accept Burdette's worksheet.

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, let me do them in a group there. I'll move acceptance of the Burdette weekly report, Soil & Water Conservation District and the Ozone Officer's report.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Steve Craig: Thank you.
 
Joe Harrison, Jr. - County Attorney

President Jerrel: Are you ready or do you want me to go on? 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: No, I'm ready.

President Jerrel: Okay.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The first item I have are the bid responses on the two projects. The first of which is VC99-10-02 and that is the Oak Hill Road sanitary sewer Barrett Law project. There were one, two, three, four, five...it looks like five bids. They are as follows:
 
Company name
Amount bid
A & M United, Inc.
Evansville, IN
$337,800.00
Peyronnin Construction
Evansville, IN
$363,678.24
Blankenberger Brothers, Inc.
Cynthiana, IN
$421,072.00
BMB, Inc.
Evansville, IN
$221,733.99
Koberstein Trucking
Princeton, IN
$364,108.80

I would ask that you take these under advisement.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The next batch of bids relates to the Vanderburgh Industrial Park and that's VC99-10-01. There were several bids. It looks like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight responses. They are as follows: J.H. Rudolph & Co., Inc. of Evansville. That total bid, base bid...in fact, in all of these I'm going to give a base bid and then an alternate bid that was also submitted and the alternate bid may be the total alternate bid or it maybe a reduction and then an addition, so when we go through the documents we'll be able to figure that out on these. They are a little different.
 
Company name
Amount bid
Alternate bid
J.H. Rudolph & Co., Inc.
Evansville, IN
$1,687,388.40
$550,375.00
Blankenberger Brothers
Cynthiana, IN
$1,539,392.44
$1,548,492.44
BMB, Inc.
vansville, IN
$1,530,277.09
$1,502,815.24
Hardaway Construction Corp. of TN
Henderson, KY
$1,887,587.85
$1,866,609.85
NFH, Inc.
Evansville, IN
$1,659,952.25
$545,250.00
Koberstein Trucking, Inc.
Princeton, IN
$1,615,303.10
$1,706,353.10
Deig Bros. Lumber & Construction
Evansville, IN
$1,732,189.55
$1,844,959.55
Koester Contracting Corp.
Evansville, IN
$1,823,964.70
$1,813,996.95

I would ask that you take these bids under advisement and review them for their responsiveness.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Mourdock: And did any of you notice how close those two bids are? 

President Jerrel: Uh-huh.

Commissioner Mourdock: That is unbelievable.

President Jerrel: Sure is.

Commissioner Tuley: Yeah.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The other item I have has to do with the Coroner's Office. The Commissioners signed a cleaning service contract with Dyna-Kleen Services, Inc. last year to perform cleaning on behalf of the Coroner at his office. The Coroner has asked that the agreement be terminated and has asked that Commissioners approve termination of the agreement so they can seek services elsewhere. I have talked to the Coroner and there is a termination provision in the contract. We're going to have to follow the provisions, etc., but he would like approval from the Commissioners to terminate that agreement. 

President Jerrel: And I did speak to him and he wants to move quickly.

Commissioner Mourdock: And you're comfortable, Joe, that under that agreement we have this opportunity without any problem?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, we can terminate the agreement. There may be some argument down the road as to price, etc., but we do have the right to terminate the agreement.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, I'll move termination of the agreement as requested.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: I will contact the Coroner and advise him appropriately. That's the only...oh, with regard to the community transition lawsuit I will update you. There was an amended complaint filed Friday with the Gibson Circuit Court and I have provided the Commissioners with a copy of the amended complaint and we'll see how the complaint proceeds from here, so I'll keep you posted. That's all I have. 
 
Consent items

President Jerrel: Is there a motion to approve the consent items?

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move--

President Jerrel: Excuse me, just a second. Alright.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the consent items as filed.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Scheduled meetings

President Jerrel: You have a list of the scheduled meetings, but apparently we need to act again on one of them.

Commissioner Mourdock: I would move that the County Commission meeting scheduled for Monday, November 1, 1999 be canceled.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Old business

President Jerrel: Is there any old business to come before the Council? 

Commissioner Mourdock: I don't know of any before the Commission either!

President Jerrel: I mean Commission.

Commissioner Mourdock: Old habit. 

President Jerrel: I got lost there.

Commissioner Tuley: Daydreaming again!

President Jerrel: Yes. Anything?

Commissioner Tuley: No. I'm sorry.
 
New business

President Jerrel: Okay, how about any new business? 

Commissioner Tuley: No.

President Jerrel: Is there a motion to adjourn.

Commissioner Mourdock: Move to adjourn.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

The meeting was adjourned at 6:29 p.m.

Those in attendance:

Bettye Lou Jerrel

Richard E. Mourdock

Patrick Tuley

Joe Harrison, Jr.

Bill Fluty

Charlene Timmons

Tony Greubel

Gary Heck

John Stoll

Erik Bentle

Steve Craig

Others unidentified

Members of the media
 

Vanderburgh County
Board of Commissioners

Bettye Lou Jerrel, President

Richard E. Mourdock, Vice President

Patrick Tuley, Member
 

Recorded and transcribed by Charlene Timmons.