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Vanderburgh County
Board of Commissioners
May 17, 1999
 

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The Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners met in session this 17th day of May at 5:35 p.m. in the Commissioners' Hearing Room of the Civic Center Complex with President Bettye Lou Jerrel presiding.
 
Introductions and Pledge of Allegiance

President Jerrel: I'd like to call the Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners meeting to order. At this time I would like to briefly introduce the people before you. Tony Greubel, our Superintendent of County Buildings; next to him, Joe Harrison, Jr., County Attorney; Commissioner Pat Tuley; far left, Recording Secretary, Charlene Timmons; Suzanne Crouch, County Auditor; Commissioner Richard Mourdock; and my name is Bettye Lou Jerrel. I would like to ask you to join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
 
Approval of minutes

President Jerrel: The first item on the agenda are the approval of minutes of the previous meeting.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the minutes of May 10, 1999.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Certification of Executive Session

President Jerrel: Next the certification of the Executive Session and we met from...Pat Tuley and I met from 4:30 until 5:30 and Richard Mourdock came about quarter till five until 5:30 and we discussed litigation and personnel matters.

Commissioner Mourdock: And I'll move approval of those summary minutes.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Open bids - VC9905-02, Construction of Ridgeway Avenue

President Jerrel: The first item on the agenda is the opening of the bids on the construction of Ridgeway Avenue. Is there a motion?

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the opening of bids for VC9905-02.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.
 
Vacation of easement - 1301 Mortensen Lane

President Jerrel: The next item is the public hearing for vacation of easement at 1301 Mortensen Lane.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval with this meeting as the public hearing for the vacation of the easement.

Charlene Timmons: He was supposed to be here.

President Jerrel: Want to give them a few minutes?

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay.

Commissioner Tuley: I mean, we should have the petitioner here shouldn't we? 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: You don't have to.

Commissioner Tuley: I mean, I don't have a problem with it.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll tell you what, I'll hold up on it in case someone walks in.

Commissioner Tuley: Just to see if someone walks in.

President Jerrel: Okay, I'll put it up here.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: It is the first reading, we have two readings anyway.

President Jerrel: Right.

Commissioner Tuley: Oh, well that's...

Charlene Timmons: But this is the public hearing.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. There may be someone who wants to talk.

Commissioner Tuley: Does anybody?

Commissioner Mourdock: Let's come back to it. 

Commissioner Tuley: Yeah.
 
Any group or individual wishing to address the Commission

President Jerrel: Alright the next item on the agenda is any group or individual wishing to address the Board. 
 
John Stoll - County Engineer

President Jerrel: Alright, moving to the County Engineer. 

John Stoll: First I've got the contract for the Old Henderson Road culvert installation. It's recommended that this project be awarded to BMB, Incorporated for the amount of $12,480. They were the low bidder on the project.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the award on the Old Henderson culvert as recommended.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: Second I would like to recommend that we approve a change order for the No. 3 School Road culvert replacement. This results in an increase of $5,856.93. The contractor on this contract was Deig Bros and the primary reason we had to increase the cost of the project was due to extra excavation associated with unsuitable dirt conditions and then subsequent to that we had to replace all that with additional fill plus it resulted in asphalt quantity overruns as well. 

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the change order as recommended.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: The third item I've got is a sidewalk waiver request for Baseline Park Subdivision. This is an industrial/commercial type subdivision that will be located at the southeast corner of Baseline and Highway 41. The petitioner requests that the sidewalks be waived due to the fact that they state that they are in a rural setting five miles from the city limits and there is little expected pedestrian traffic that will be generated by the industrial park and also they state that the industrial parks to the southwest and north of this property do not have sidewalks. So on that basis, given the fact that it is an industrial park with large lots and pedestrian activity will be limited, it is recommended that this be approved.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: Next I've got a right-of-way grant from BFI. They...as a condition of their permits to install the deceleration lane and relocate their entrance a couple of years ago they were supposed to dedicate an additional ten feet of right-of-way along St. Joe Avenue so that way the decel lane would be totally located within right-of-way. We overlooked this. We didn't know that they hadn't got the property dedicated and recorded. This is to meet the condition of their permit and was approved at Site Review and it is recommended that this additional ten feet of right-of-way along their property be accepted by the county. There is no signature line. This is just a formality of running it through the meeting.

President Jerrel: Is there a motion?

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move acceptance of the right-of-way grant from BFI.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: The last item I've got is a request for authorization to sign off on the appraisals for temporary right-of-way on phase three of the Burkhardt Road project. This is for temporary right-of-way associated with the reconstruction of the interchange road south approach at Burkhardt Road. This road is basically a large private driveway. It's located on a driveway easement rather than on right-of-way, so it is being treated as temporary right-of-way because it is basically a driveway rather than a public road. The appraisal amount is for $1,750. The owner of the property is the Deep Hole Partnership. 

Commissioner Mourdock: So we're accepting or...accepting that grant?

John Stoll: This is authorization for me to sign off on these--

Joe Harrison, Jr.: To make an offer.

John Stoll: --to make the offer to purchase.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, I move that we make the offer to purchase for the temporary right-of-way as recommended.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

John Stoll: That's all I've got.

President Jerrel: Okay, but you will stay just a minute?

John Stoll: Yeah.

Commissioner Mourdock: John.

Commissioner Tuley: John. I'm sorry, go ahead, Richard.

Commissioner Mourdock: Did you hear anything from Replas or slash Matrix? 

John Stoll: No I haven't, not a word.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay.

Tony Greubel: I left a voice mail for Mr. Wright. He hasn't returned my call yet.

John Stoll: And that's all I've ever gotten, too, is voice mail, leaving a message and no return phone calls. 

President Jerrel: Is there any chance that someone could just go out there?

John Stoll: We could try. We met with them what...?

Commissioner Mourdock: Three weeks ago.

John Stoll: Two and a half weeks ago.

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah.

John Stoll: And it was supposed to be taken care of--

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, the next week.

John Stoll: --the following week and nothing was done.

Commissioner Mourdock: The lawyers were blamed as I recall.

John Stoll: Right.

Commissioner Mourdock: Which is what I usually say, too! I will give him a call again.

John Stoll: Okay, I'll give it a shot again as well, but I have not had any luck. I talked to Mike Robling about a week ago and he said he hadn't heard anything from them either.

President Jerrel: Okay.

Commissioner Tuley: Are you going to be in tomorrow afternoon?

John Stoll: Pardon?

Commissioner Tuley: Will you be in your office tomorrow afternoon?

John Stoll: Yes.

Commissioner Tuley: Okay, I've got some more questions come up on the design up there on Ward Road again after we went out there.

John Stoll: Somehow that doesn't surprise me. 

Commissioner Mourdock: On Ward Road?

Commissioner Tuley: Yeah.

President Jerrel: Okay, well we'll...but if you'll stay just a few minutes.

John Stoll: Sure.
 
Erik Bentle - Superintendent of County Garage

President Jerrel: County Garage.

Erik Bentle: Here is your attendance thing that you wanted.

President Jerrel: Oh.

Commissioner Tuley: Thank you.

Erik Bentle: The only thing I have really is I've got the attendance pages now that Pat requested. I went ahead and did one for the bridge crew and the highway department along with the foreman so you'll be getting them every week.

Commissioner Tuley: I appreciate that.

Erik Bentle: And the other thing in there is I went ahead and put a supervisor call in list so you'll know who is on call certain weeks and you have my weekly work report. We've already discussed about the (inaudible) that I was going to talk about. 

President Jerrel: Any questions? Motion to accept?

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move acceptance of the County Highway Garage report.

Commissioner Tuley: Second. Thanks, Erik, I appreciate this.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Mourdock: Joe, just a procedural question. I know any number of departments that we have have motor vehicles and accidents are inevitable. We have a drug policy. Is there anything in our policy that would otherwise prohibit us from doing probable cause drug testing? We do random stuff. Is that something that would take an amendment of the policy or it is just that is in-house?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: I think probable cause is both in the union and in the county personnel...I know it is in the county personnel policy. I'm not one hundred percent sure it's in the union contract, but I would be shocked if it wasn't. I mean, you've got to have very good proof--

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, would you check on that?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes.

Commissioner Mourdock: And then as far as the probable cause the worry I have there is that some supervisor for whatever reason sends somebody off to be tested and someone else wouldn't and therefore you're in a claim of defense right away.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right. I'll get with you.

Commissioner Mourdock: Could it be possible that we could look at it based on a dollar amount that if the damage to property...obviously, if someone is hurt that is automatic. If there is a property damage incident of over $250 then it is automatic.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, okay.

Commissioner Mourdock: Just some standards like that so that we can have supervisors be consistent or as consistent as possible.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay. 
 
Joe Harrison, Jr. - County Attorney

President Jerrel: Okay, County Attorney.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: I've got a couple items. First on the bids for VC9905-02, that's the construction of Ridgeway Avenue, there are two bids that came in.
 
Company name
Amount bid
Concrete Pavers, Inc.
Evansville, IN
 

$4,875.00
J.H. Rudolph & Co., Inc.
Evansville, IN
 

$6,000.00

I would ask that you take these under advisement. 

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The next item I have has to do with a couple of matters that at some point may involve litigation. I would just like to have your approval to proceed with legal action. The first of which is a possible condemnation action of parcel four on Lynch Road. That's, I think, currently owned by the Durchholz Family Trust and that would be in connection with the Lynch Road project, so if there is a motion to that effect.

Commissioner Mourdock: It's obviously very important that we get that project completed, so I would so move at this time.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The next item which I would like permission to pursue legal action if necessary would be an area out at 333 Gregory Court. There is a road out in that area that we've had some problems with and we may have to initiate legal action out in that area concerning the status of that particular roadway.

President Jerrel: So you need a motion for...?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: To pursue.

President Jerrel: Authorizing to proceed?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes.

Commissioner Mourdock: Are there negotiations beforehand or discussions and if those discussion don't come to fruition then you would file a suit?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes, we would have to initiate legal action then.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, I'll so move.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: And the last of which where we may need to initiate legal action at some point involves two tandem dump trucks that have been purchased by the county a year and a half ago from Miller Truck Equipment. The county has had a few problems with those trucks and at some point we may have to pursue legal action as well there. 

Commissioner Mourdock: I will so move.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: That's all I have. 
 
Tony Greubel - Superintendent of County Buildings

President Jerrel: Okay, Superintendent of County Buildings.

Tony Greubel: Last Tuesday the county had a surplus property auction. We sold 35 parcels at that. We made $3,445 in sales at that sale. We only have 12--

Commissioner Mourdock: (Inaudible.)

Tony Greubel: We only have 12 properties left now that are clearly in our name. 

Commissioner Tuley: It's not what you make it's what you save. 

President Jerrel: That means that there will not be nearly the upkeep for the garage to maintain on these lots. 

Erik Bentle: Some of them people already take care of.

President Jerrel: Yeah, there is not going to be much of anything to do.

Commissioner Mourdock: And since there are 12 lots based on the other pricing those lots failed bring about $10 a piece!

Joe Harrison, Jr.: We sold a couple for $10, believe it or not. You know, again, the county just wants to get rid of the property. A couple of them, I think, had structures on them that were sold. 

Commissioner Mourdock: They must have gotten all the way up into the hundreds.

Tony Greubel: The other issue, the Community Corrections Complex dropped off a list today of surplus computers that they would like to be taken out right away to the County Highway Garage.

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I'll move that we declare those computers surplus.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Erik Bentle: Have you set a date yet?

Tony Greubel: Actually, I did already talk...I talked with the auctioneer who did our last surplus equipment auction in October of '97 and he lost money at that one after he paid his help so we're going...he and Bennie and I are going to go out and look at the stuff again at the garage and he is going to see if he can make some more money this time otherwise we might have to work out a deal with another auctioneer. 

President Jerrel: We're not very profitable. Is there a copy of this or should I put my copy in--

Tony Greubel: The Auditor has a copy of that.

President Jerrel: Auditor, in the signed? Okay, but she has a copy? Okay. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, we can initial it. 

President Jerrel: Yeah, I think we should, too. 
 
Steve Craig - Burdette Park

President Jerrel: Alright, Burdette Park. 

Steve Craig: They finished the olympic pool Saturday, fiberglassing it, and they started doing the lines today which they said they would be done tomorrow but that may be questionable if they get it done tomorrow, but we will open to the public on Thursday, May 27th, and hopefully be open every day until Labor Day. Other than that everything is going pretty smooth. We found a hole in one of our surge pools that we're going to have to do a little work on. It's been there quite a while and we knew we were getting mud into a certain area and we finally found it so we're going to patch it but we should be open the 27th. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Are you confident of your chlorination system and all this year?

Steve Craig: Yeah, it was new last year and, you know, we cleaned it up and everything and got it ready. That's the game we play. I mean, by the time we get everything done we've got to start all of our pumps and our filtration system and our chlorinators and if they don't run properly then we have to fix them before next Thursday, but I think, you know, the way they ran last year and being new that they should be in fine shape and we have changed the filter sand, redid our filters this winter. We did that in-house and they've been done for a month or so, so everything should be okay.

President Jerrel: Joe, you sent me an e-mail regarding Burdette's money. We think they really did get the $145,000 instead of the $90,000 or $95,000. However, how can we find out for sure?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, we're going to have to...the message I got was from Jonathan Weinzapfel.

President Jerrel: I mean, who...would we call...

Commissioner Mourdock: Frank O'Bannon.

President Jerrel: Well, but would we call Legislative Services and ask to speak to the people that represent and work with the Build Indiana Fund?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: You think the Build Indiana Fund people who--

President Jerrel: We don't know where...who gave what. We don't know who...once those bills are signed and they're signed then it goes to the budget--

Suzanne Crouch: Yeah, I would start with the Governor's Office. Is that something you want us to do?

President Jerrel: Well, I would like for you to.

Suzanne Crouch: Okay.

President Jerrel: We need to know and Steve would like to know. I've got two or three different numbers.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: The State Auditor at some point is going to get some sort of request for payment.

President Jerrel: But if you could help us on that we would appreciate it.

Suzanne Crouch: Okay.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: We've got the amount though.

President Jerrel: It's $145,000.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah.

Steve Craig: Yeah, that's what I was...had originally been told, too, by Dennis Avery but then when I talked to Larry Lutz he said it was only $95,000.

President Jerrel: So we need to find out for sure.

Suzanne Crouch: From the Build Indiana Fund, is that it?

President Jerrel: Yes.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: I've got a copy of my thing.

Steve Craig: Supposedly it is coming from two different directions.

President Jerrel: I may have--

Suzanne Crouch: Okay.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: I can send it to you.

Steve Craig: Okay, did you get our packet?

President Jerrel: We got...we need a motion to approve.

Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move acceptance of the Burdette Park report.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered. When does your Board have their next meeting?

Steve Craig: Next Wednesday. 

President Jerrel: Next Wednesday. I had a request and we aren't...you know, we don't do any of those. We give them to your Board so we'll get it out there to you.

Steve Craig: Right, okay.

President Jerrel: Tony, do you still have that request?

Tony Greubel: Yeah.

Steve Craig: Will you fax it out tomorrow?

Tony Greubel: I already did.

Steve Craig: Is that the one from Lynn?

Tony Greubel: From Lynn.

Steve Craig: Yeah, we got it.

President Jerrel: Okay, alright. 
 
Weekly reports

President Jerrel: Okay, and you have a report from the Ozone Officer and Soil & Water Conservation District.

Commissioner Mourdock: And I'll move acceptance of those reports.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Commissioner Mourdock: Let me add one quick word on the ozone thing.

President Jerrel: Okay.

Commissioner Mourdock: As you probably know the court, federal court, overturned a bunch of that or basically put a stay on it and it doesn't mean anything other than delay at this point so we'll see where the numbers go. I would guess there is another two and a half years of litigation.

President Jerrel: Right.

Commissioner Mourdock: I think EPA means endless parade of attorneys.

President Jerrel: Gotcha. 
 
Vacation of easement - 1301 Mortensen Lane

President Jerrel: Okay, let's go...do we have?

Commissioner Tuley: Yeah.

Charlene Timmons: Yes.

President Jerrel: Okay, we're going back up to the public hearing for the vacation of the easement at 1301 Mortensen Lane.

Commissioner Mourdock: On first reading I will move--

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Hang on a second.

Commissioner Mourdock: Oh, okay. I didn't know you were here. 

President Jerrel: Would you want to give us your name?

Lee Mortensen: Yes, my name is Lee Mortensen. 

President Jerrel: This is a public hearing and at this time is there anything you would like to say, Mr. Mortensen, or is there...I don't think anybody in the audience is here to speak. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: John.

President Jerrel: You're here to speak?

Lee Mortensen: I am not quite ready. I don't have my green cards back yet so I am going to have to try to reschedule it I guess if possible. 

Charlene Timmons: Okay, he did not mail out his abutting property notices to his abutting property owners.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right.

Charlene Timmons: So my question is do we need to readvertise because we advertised for the hearing to be held tonight, but the abutting property owners were not notified by certified mail.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right, we would have to readvertise, unfortunately. And, John...the County Engineer, John Stoll, may not believe that this is even a road to be vacated, is that correct?

John Stoll: Well, I went out and looked at this Friday evening and then took a look at the recorded plat today and the plat shows this as a drainage and public utility easement so if it would be...I didn't know how that would affect the petition as it was submitted, whether or not the petition would need to be revised as far as to state that it is a drainage and utility easement and likewise then if it is a drainage easement Drainage Board approval would probably be required as well. I was going to call you or send you letter stating that because I got your request for response from us.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Do you think the two of you could double check on that?

John Stoll: Sure.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: And whatever needs to be done, if it has to go before the Drainage Board and the Commissioners then that is fine, but still the notices will have to go out and maybe you can get this done in the next couple of weeks.

Lee Mortensen: Right.

Commissioner Mourdock: It's good that we didn't rush forward.

President Jerrel: Yeah, okay thank you very much.

Charlene Timmons: Okay, but before he sends those out tomorrow do you want John to check that because we'll have to set a whole new hearing date?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right, you all can check to make sure if you're going to change the language.

John Stoll: I was going to say if it's a drainage easement it just needs to state in the petition that it's a drainage and public utility easement, correct?

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, both.

John Stoll: Okay.

Charlene Timmons: And then we'll have to go through the whole permission to advertise again. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, we can probably at least get permission to advertise this evening.

Charlene Timmons: Okay, do you want me to go ahead and set a hearing date? 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, why don't we do that?

Charlene Timmons: Normally the Commissioners set the hearing date, but, I mean, I can do that.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Why don't we set it some time in June. I mean, we're not going to have a meeting on the 31st, is that correct?

Charlene Timmons: Correct.

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Today is the 17th. Maybe we could do it the first or second week in June. On the first Monday or second Monday in June which would give you more time.

Lee Mortensen: June 7th is the first Monday, I believe, in June. 

Charlene Timmons: Okay. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: That would be enough time wouldn't it? 

President Jerrel: Would that give you enough?

Charlene Timmons: It gives me enough time as long as he can get his green cards back in time.

Lee Mortensen: Yeah, most everybody involved is somehow part of it. 

Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay, well if there is a motion to that effect to approve advertising and have a hearing on June 7th.

Commissioner Mourdock: So moved.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

Charlene Timmons: And then I'll need another check for the advertising.

Lee Mortensen: Right, for the advertising. Okay.

Charlene Timmons: Okay.
 
Petition regarding Eickhoff/Koressel road design

President Jerrel: Alright, we have one other item on the agenda and most of you received a petition on Friday and I did make some phone calls regarding that and we have asked our County Engineer to review what...I mean, you've made a lot of requests in here Susie. 

Unidentified: Right.

President Jerrel: You want to come up to the microphone. 

Unidentified: Sure.

Commissioner Mourdock: You need to state your name, too, please.

Susan Wolf: My name is Susan Wolf. Actually, we are...I tried to state as well as I could that this is not an uprising or anything like that, but we hear so many things from year to year about the road is here, the road is there, the road is going to do this, the road is going to do that, that many of us from one end of the county to the other on the west side who would be affected in one way or the other, and I really haven't prepared anything to say tonight, to speak, but are concerned about what is going to happen where there have been some changes in plans since that public hearing--

President Jerrel: Well, here is--

Susan Wolf: --as far as we understand.

President Jerrel: Here is what I thought. I wanted to see if you thought this was reasonable. I can't find John's...it was right on my desk here.

Commissioner Mourdock: A letter? Do you have the letter you showed me?

President Jerrel: Well, I have to find it first. I asked John to do a draft because I'm not sure that there have been any changes and I wanted him to do a draft. He had a good idea, he said could you get together the four or five people that you had referenced in your letter--

Susan Wolf: Yes, there is a steering committee.

President Jerrel: --and set up a meeting with him and then let's go over all of the issues that you had concerns about and then he can at that time tell you the number of things that are going on that he is aware of, what we've done, we've entered into some contracts and let you know all of that. Does that make sense to you?

Susan Wolf: Yes, it does make sense. The only question we have here is that in addition to the questions there are honestly some criticisms of some of the designs as well and, you know, as you can see by the number of people who have shown an interest in this we would like to open as far as possible some of the design for discussion and questioning.

President Jerrel: But would it help if the five of you met with the designer and looked and made sure that we're all talking about the same thing?

Susan Wolf: Sure, why not start there?

President Jerrel: Yeah, would that be okay with you?

Susan Wolf: In the spirit which my letter, I hope, conveys to you.

President Jerrel: Sure.

Susan Wolf: That's a good place to start.

President Jerrel: Okay, and John...he had written a number of things to me and he may want to revise this or just send you a copy of this letter. This is what he sent to us and then let you guys, you know, set up a time. 

Susan Wolf: Sure.

Commissioner Mourdock: Is that letter, is it dated today because I have not seen the letter either? I just know it exists.

President Jerrel: No, it just got over. I asked John to do something with historical perspective for us.

Commissioner Mourdock: But I meant did he write the letter today?

President Jerrel: Yes. 

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. Yeah, I have not even seen it other than know that it exists there and, John, maybe as you put together the meeting with Ms. Wolf and the group let me know. You know, I may be able to just come and listen at that point rather than have the full blown hearing or whatever just to better understand what everybody's concern is.

Susan Wolf: Yeah, as this...I...there are quite a few people in the group, but I would say that as a starting point I don't see any problem. It's the logical way to begin, so that's good. So we're all talking apples and apples.

President Jerrel: Yeah, if you two guys could pick a time we'd be more than happy to set up something.

Susan Wolf: Sure.

President Jerrel: Because Pat was the only member of the Commission that was--

Commissioner Tuley: I wasn't here in `89, but I was in `93.

Susan Wolf: In `93, right.

President Jerrel: So we felt this was the appropriate way to go--

Susan Wolf: Good.

President Jerrel: --so that we could have some background.

Susan Wolf: Okay.

Commissioner Mourdock: And, John, once you get the final draft if I am understanding this is a preliminary draft--

President Jerrel: Right.

Commissioner Mourdock: --be sure to fax one to me or e-mail it to me.

Susan Wolf: Okay.

President Jerrel: Okay?

Susan Wolf: Thank you. I appreciate your time.

President Jerrel: Thank you, Susie. 
 
Old business

President Jerrel: Okay, moving on to old business we do have--

Commissioner Mourdock: Consent items.

President Jerrel: That's right, but I wanted to just make up...Pat and I, we would like to wait and get those names next Monday. Is that okay with you?

Commissioner Mourdock: Sure.

President Jerrel: Tony, could you...I've got mine at home, but I could put together those names of people that have called in to serve. Now we do have a yes from John Walker and from Tom Bernhardt, but those are the only two definite yes so we need ten names so we could kind of let Tony coordinate that. 

Commissioner Tuley: Yeah, he said he would e-mail them over to me tomorrow.

President Jerrel: Okay. I have a copy of it at home and I'll be down here in the morning anyway so we're all on the same wavelength. Is that okay?

Commissioner Mourdock: Uh-huh.
 
Consent items

President Jerrel: Okay. Alright, back to the consent items. 

Commissioner Mourdock: There is nothing added right?

President Jerrel: There is a letter added to Curt Wiley thanking him for his service and the way he has worked well with us in Vanderburgh County. He is resigning as the INDOT Director.

Commissioner Mourdock: With the addition of that letter then I would move approval of the consent items as filed.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered. Is there any other business to come before the Board?

Commissioner Mourdock: Just a question regarding scheduling. Pat, you will not be here next week, is that right?

Commissioner Tuley: No, I will be here the next week. I will be here next week.

Commissioner Mourdock: Oh, okay.

President Jerrel: It's the week after that.

Commissioner Tuley: It's the holiday week which none of us will be here and then the following week, the 7th I believe it is, I will not be here.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay.

President Jerrel: Do you have to go back to--

Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I have to go to Denver, but I am not sure when that will be. I'm hoping it won't be over a Monday, but I'll just have to see.

President Jerrel: Okay.

Commissioner Tuley: It will be the first scheduled meeting in June. The first one is the one I'll be missing.

Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. 

President Jerrel: Okay, is there any other business?

Commissioner Mourdock: Motion for adjournment.

Commissioner Tuley: Second.

President Jerrel: So ordered.

The meeting was adjourned at 6:05 p.m.

Those in attendance:

Bettye Lou Jerrel

Richard E. Mourdock

Patrick Tuley

Joe Harrison, Jr.

Suzanne M. Crouch

Charlene Timmons

Tony Greubel

Lee Mortensen

Susan Wolf

John Stoll

Erik Bentle

Steve Craig

Others unidentified

Members of the media
 

Vanderburgh County
Board of Commissioners

Bettye Lou Jerrel, President

Richard E. Mourdock, Vice President

Patrick Tuley, Member

Recorded and transcribed by Charlene Timmons.