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Board of Commissioners May 10, 1999
President Jerrel: I'd like to call the County Commissioners' meeting to order. At this time I would like to introduce the people at this...well, Tony Greubel, our Administrative Assistant, will be sitting in the far right seat; next to him is Joe Harrison, Jr., our County Attorney; Commissioner Pat Tuley; excuse me, we have a new...I started to say and there is Charlene. Unidentified: A new Charlene. President Jerrel: A new Charlene Timmons. That's not Charlene down there. Suzanne Crouch: B.J. Commissioner Mourdock: Say B.J. President Jerrel: Yeah, B.J. has been all over. She's, old... Commissioner Tuley: Are you saying B.J. has been around? President Jerrel: She's been... Suzanne Crouch: I'd just stop. President Jerrel: I better quit while I am ahead. Suzanne Crouch: Yeah. President Jerrel: The County Auditor, Suzanne Crouch;
Commissioner Richard Mourdock; and my name is Bettye Lou Jerrel and I would
like for you to join me now in the Pledge of Allegiance.
President Jerrel: The first action item is the approval of the minutes of the meeting of May 3rd. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the minutes of May 3rd. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered.
President Jerrel: The next item is the opening of bids. Is there a motion to approve opening bids? Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the opening of bids for solicitation VC9905-01 for the Old Henderson Road culvert installation. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. You want to give those to
him?
President Jerrel: Jerry. The next item on the agenda is Purchasing, the request to let bids for County Highway pick-up truck. Jerry Bryan: Okay, I'm Jerry Bryan, the City/County Purchasing Director. On Erik's behalf I am requesting permission to advertise and bid for a new dodge 4x4 pick-up. The Garage recently purchased two new rollers, one for the patch crew and one for the paving crew, and there is no way to pull one of the rollers for the paving crew because the pick-ups that we presently have in the fleet don't have the load capacity. Erik, do you want to add one thing to this? Do you want to add anything to this? Erik Bentle: Not to that, no. Jerry Bryan: Okay. Are there any questions from the Commissioners? President Jerrel: Is there a motion regarding this? Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move the acquisition as required. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Jerry Bryan: Thank you. President Jerrel: Uh-huh, thank you.
President Jerrel: Next on our agenda is Rose Zigenfus. Rose Zigenfus: Good afternoon. I'm Rose Zigenfus. The first cover sheet that you have is a project update that we put together monthly and it describes the projects that are in progress or that have made progress in the last month. This is not unfamiliar to your President because she has seen it at our policy committee meeting, but I thought you might be interested in knowing. Fulton Avenue, the preconstruction meeting was held on May 5th. According to the County Engineer it looks like that will be under construction and closed to traffic until about January 7th and I think you all are aware of that. St. Joe, State Road 66 and Diamond Avenue, the comment period for that project, the public hearing was held, and the comment period has been extended to May 7th so that if there are any comments they were due last Friday. State Road 662, public information meetings were held in September. Construction activities on that project are now under way and will be until the end of May and then the Weinbach Avenue intersection improvement, the city has received a proposal for the design of that project. That's a CMAQ project to relieve congestion. The next two stapled pieces of information if you'll recall in our Green River Road review from Morgan north we were going to try and get some data to demonstrate whether the affects of a median are worth the effort. What you have in front of you, and I would like to go over it briefly and then let you digest it for a while before I come back and ask for you thoughts and suggestions. The Green River Road area from Lloyd to Lincoln you know is a continuous turn lane section, multiple curb cuts, lots of traffic and according to just 1998 this data tells us that there were 13 right angle accidents, 48 rear end accidents, four accidents due to lane changes, both going along in the northbound lane and someone decides they're going to change or sideswipe you or move in front of you, 16 only parking lot accidents and then six others, a couple that happened at the ramps to the interstate or the interchange of Lloyd, for a total of 87 accidents in that stretch during 1998. For the section of Green River Road from Lincoln to Washington where there is a raised median, controlled traffic control, five traffic signals, one at Washington, Powell, Bayard Park, Bellemeade and Lincoln, there was a total of 93 accidents. Bad news. The good news is most of those accidents, 58 of them, happened on the parking lot. Commissioner Mourdock: When you say on the parking lot you mean clearly on private property that has nothing to do-- Rose Zigenfus: Private property. Commissioner Mourdock: How does it even get reported to the city or county? Rose Zigenfus: Well, the police have to do a report for any accident whether it is on private. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, sure. Rose Zigenfus: But they list it according to address so it is picked up in the database. President Jerrel: Do you know one thing that would help improve that? I was out there the other day and you know how you see a dangerous situation? They need to repaint the lines on that drive median that runs through. Not the one that runs up by the buildings. Rose Zigenfus: Right. President Jerrel: It's the one that runs north/south. It's, you know, about half way through it. Rose Zigenfus: Right. President Jerrel: And that is not clearly define, so you have people coming out of parking spaces and these other people think it's a street. You know...I know that would be up to them to do it, but that is a real problem that could pretty simply be avoided. Rose Zigenfus: I think based on what we found we are going to contact Lawndale because most of the accidents occurred there in Lawndale. Some of them were elsewhere, but 58 is an awful lot of accidents to occur in the parking area. So the good news is with the median you only have five right angle accidents as opposed to 13. You only have 18 rear ends as opposed to 48, so those are significant statistics that tell us that controlled traffic movement is really safer movement. As the property north of Morgan Avenue on Green River continues to develop, you've got a flush median there you can almost speculate that the same kinds of activities are going to happen there that are happening now south of Lloyd to Lincoln. Commissioner Mourdock: How do the traffic counts compare between these two? I mean, logic would say to me that Lincoln to Washington and Lincoln to Lloyd ought to be pretty close, but-- Rose Zigenfus: They are. Commissioner Mourdock: --logic doesn't always work. Rose Zigenfus: Yeah, they are. They're very similar in volumes. And north of Morgan are also continuing to grow. I think it was kind of an eye-opener for us. We are going to contact Lawndale to see if there is something that we can maybe help them with to see where those accidents are occurring. I thought it was just food for thought for you as you ponder North Green River Road's final acceptance. Commissioner Mourdock: I'm going to embarrass myself here, but as one who views window shopping as that time when you have to go out and buy a pane of glass with a frame around it which one is Lawndale? Rose Zigenfus: Lawndale is south of Bellemeade. Commissioner Mourdock: What is a store in Lawndale? Commissioner Tuley: Target. Rose Zigenfus: Target. President Jerrel: Eye-Mart. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, okay, I gotcha now. Alright, on the east side of Green River. Rose Zigenfus: On the east side, that is Lawndale. President Jerrel: That accident that occurred at Target and Bellemeade exit-- Rose Zigenfus: Uh-huh. President Jerrel: --that's the street I'm talking to you about that if they would just put some paint down the middle of it and on the two sides. Rose Zigenfus: It would help. President Jerrel: Yeah. Commissioner Tuley: What are they doing on 62 from St. Joe west out past USI? Are they just preparing it for paving? Rose Zigenfus: I think so. I think it is joint seal. I think they're sealing the joints, doing those kinds of things. Commissioner Mourdock: Do you know, Rose, what the historical perspective was why the median was done on the south section and not on the northern part? I mean, did it just evolve that way? Rose Zigenfus: I don't know. Yeah, I think it just evolved that way on the north side but the south side they came back and did a study in the early 70's, I believe, and installed the median because there wasn't any and there was a problem, accident problem, and then they came back and installed it. Commissioner Tuley: I think there was a disagreement on the design on this body that was in place at that time about that north end of it, too. Rose Zigenfus: Yes. President Jerrel: Another thing, Richard, there were homes and they had access. Rose Zigenfus: Is that what it was? Oh, north? President Jerrel: On north of Lincoln Avenue between Lincoln and the Lloyd there were several homes and they kept the entrances and exits sometimes too. Well, you know what...is it the Hacienda or what's the...no, Shyler's now. Rose Zigenfus: Shyler's. Commissioner Tuley: Yeah. President Jerrel: Yeah. I mean that is really bad to get in and out of, but that's part of it. People moved their homes and they had all those curb cuts and that's just the way it went. Rose Zigenfus: You know, through the change of use for a lot of those areas we have tried to minimize the access points, but it is still pretty free flow out there. Commissioner Tuley: Developers and merchants, they like that center turn lane because of accessibility to their properties and stuff. President Jerrel: On both sides, yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, but that's what I normally would think, but when I see this data as far as what the accidents are and I picture driving up and down there do you believe the merchants north of Washington have...no, I'm sorry, north of Lincoln to the Lloyd have more business than they do south? Commissioner Tuley: It's just different kinds of business. Rose Zigenfus: It's different, different types. President Jerrel: Different developments. Commissioner Mourdock: Exactly. I mean, the traffic counts may be different, but they are not different because of the median. It's different because it's a different kind of business. Commissioner Tuley: No, the nature of what they're attracting in. I'm not arguing. I'm just saying I think part of it was merchant's concerns expressed to this body in place and there was disagreement even amongst this body, if I remember correctly, as to what they were going to do. Either they were going to put a median down it or they weren't. Rose Zigenfus: Right. Commissioner Mourdock: But I would think the merchants who had the greater volume of traffic flow would be saying, oh, don't put the median in. Rose Zigenfus: Absolutely. Commissioner Tuley: Oh, yeah. That was their argument. Commissioner Mourdock: And they're the ones who got the safer-- Commissioner Tuley: Without the median. President Jerrel: No, with the median. Commissioner Mourdock: With the median they're safer now. Commissioner Tuley: Yeah, I agree, they are safer. Commissioner Mourdock: And they are still getting the business. It's very interesting. Rose Zigenfus: Yeah, it is. Commissioner Tuley: We took one out since I've been sitting on this Board at St. Joe north of Diamond. Rose Zigenfus: Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Commissioner Tuley: That was all median. Commissioner Mourdock: Oh, right yeah, but there isn't much business out there. Commissioner Tuley: Not near the traffic we're talking about out here on Green River Road. Rose Zigenfus: Right. Commissioner Mourdock: Interesting. Rose Zigenfus: So we're continuing to work on that Green River Road North project and I am hoping that we can get it back to you sometime either June or July for final acceptance. President Jerrel: And if you hear anything, I know John perhaps has or may hear about the CMAQ project at Morgan and Burkhardt. Rose Zigenfus: I talked to John about that this morning. We were discussing at Site Review and evidently it is in the right-of-way acquisition and I think that is where it is bogged down right now. President Jerrel: Is there anything anybody can do to help move that along? Rose Zigenfus: I don't know. Maybe John can answer that. John Stoll: Right now all the offers have been sent out except for one temporary right-of-way and the way...I guess what has happened is at this point everybody has got their offer but nobody has presented any counteroffers. They've not accepted their offers, but they've not provided counteroffers yet so we're playing a waiting game, I guess, right now. There is also issues regarding the railroad as far as what they ultimately want to see go in on that crossing out there, but those are the two holdups right now. President Jerrel: Thank you, Rose. Rose Zigenfus: You're welcome.
President Jerrel: The next item on the agenda is Mr. Hofmann with an update on the Petersburg Road...Old Petersburg Road property. Steve Fuchs: Hello, my name is Steve Fuchs, I'm the new Assistant Building Commissioner and Roger has asked me to come this evening about 11800 Petersburg Road. He has as of even this morning had another conservation with Mr. Hofmann and in that conversation Mr. Hofmann basically is still saying that he wants the time to raze the building himself. He would like 60 days to do that. Mr. Lehman is requesting that be put on some schedule so that things can be kept moving and that we respectfully request that the bids be placed and 15 days be given to accumulate those bids and then at the end of those 15 days those bids to be compared and then if it is your decision to allow Mr. Hofmann to raze it that the razing commence within the first 15 days after the decision is made and that it be completed within 30 days after the beginning of the razing and that there be some stipulation because this has been going on since September of last year that if work ceases for longer than seven days at a stretch that we be allowed to go in and finish the raze. President Jerrel: Unless weather is a mitigating factor. Steve Fuchs: Yes, unless there are circumstances that are above and beyond their control. Commissioner Mourdock: I have a couple of questions. I understand from Tony's note that Mr. Hofmann wants to take the property down himself, is that right? Steve Fuchs: Yes. His attorney is here. Jerry Fuchs: Members of the council, I am Jerry Fuchs and I represent Mr. Hofmann. He is present here and what the gentleman just said is primarily true. They have an agenda where they want to compare bids within, I believe the first week or week and half or 15 days. Mr. Hofmann is not against that. Both sides get prices to do this and thereafter, you know, he can decide on which one to do it, but he has to get it done because he has been dragging his feet. He has had this...he was born on that corner down there and I've known Carl for probably 100 years it seems like. He doesn't give up easy. He is the old German type. But the idea is that he would like until, however you want to describe it, until July the 1st to get it done. Now, the agenda is alright, comparing prices and so forth and getting it done, but he has got a bunch of personal property still in there, pieces of furniture and everything else that he was born with actually. He has a home further out on Green River Road where he is living now. He is not asking for much. Just until July 1 to complete it and whatever agenda in between that time is not too unagreeable to us. I talked to Roger today and I think we were eye to eye on it. President Jerrel: Do you have a question? Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I want to be sure I understand. Steve Fuchs said a minute ago...there are too many Fuchs here tonight. Steve Fuchs said we want to go out for bids or set this thing up to go out to bids and I hear Jerry Fuchs saying that, in fact, Mr. Hofmann wants to do this himself why would we be going out-- Jerry Fuchs: He wants to hire somebody, not himself. I mean, he can't-- Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, okay. Now I understand. President Jerrel: And now just so I am clear do you follow going for your bids through the...what Board do you do that? Steve Fuchs: I believe the bidding goes through the Safety Board. President Jerrel: Okay, the Safety Board and what kind of a timetable does that take you? Steve Fuchs: Well, they meet every two weeks, so that is why Roger said 15 days. Commissioner Mourdock: But why would, and, again, I'm missing something. Why would we have a county board bid it if, in fact-- Steve Fuchs: The only reason Roger is saying that is in case Mr. Hofmann does not get that done in 15 days. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, and let's just play it out for a minute. If, in fact, that happens we put a lien on the property for that amount, I presume? Commissioner Tuley: Yeah, if we tear it down. President Jerrel: Well, we have to pay it. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah. President Jerrel: Right. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I think those bids probably go through this...I think Roger would get the quotes. Either get quotes or bid it out and it would be submitted to this Board probably. President Jerrel: Now the ones that are in the paper, they're kind of generic almost. It's...there will be certain buildings razed and you submit what you charge for such and such. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right. President Jerrel: There were two in the paper today. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay. But the only thing is I think this Board would probably want to give him a specific date within which to have a decision yea or nay whether he is going to go with a contractor to demolish the building or raze the building. Commissioner Mourdock: And did I hear 15 days? Carl Hofmann: Can I ask one question? Commissioner Mourdock: Sure, I'll tell you what, you need to come to the microphone though, Mr. Hofmann, or otherwise we won't get your-- Carl Hofmann: I was just wondering, okay if these bids are bid and they are put in the paper, the addresses and names. President Jerrel: No, they don't. They're generic. They just say bids for-- Carl Hofmann: Two thousand square foot, 5,000. President Jerrel: Yeah, they're generic bids so they wouldn't have your name or the property there. Commissioner Mourdock: But the date that you're looking for, Mr. Hofmann. Jerry Fuchs: July 1. July 1, right Carl? Carl Hofmann: Right. Commissioner Mourdock: So you're looking to have it done by July 1? Jerry Fuchs: Done by then. Carl Hofmann: That is-- Jerry Fuchs: Actually, I think we are even closer than what they're talking about. What Roger is talking about. Commissioner Mourdock: But what would be by July 1? It would totally be done. Jerry Fuchs: Gone. Yeah, gone and done. Steve Fuchs: We also stress that the contractor, whether he gets it or we get it, has to be a licensed contractor in demolition in the county and the permits must be pulled so that we can inspect the demolition and make sure the proper fill is done and that the safety precautions are adhered to during the demolition time. President Jerrel: So really what we could do tonight is we could authorize you to bid for the demolition of that property. Jerry Fuchs: I think that is the agenda they're talking about in 15 days getting together and having a meeting, is what Roger told me, to see where we stand with the bids. Commissioner Mourdock: And what do you think you all would have done from your side in the next 15 days? Jerry Fuchs: Bids also and Mr. Hofmann could pick from probably. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. Jerry Fuchs: That would be my understanding. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. Jerry Fuchs: Either way from the county standpoint. Commissioner Mourdock: In that case let me just float this as a motion and tell me if it would be appropriate, I think it would. If in 15 days Mr. Hofmann has not selected a contractor to do this demolition work then we would authorize through Roger Lehman's office the bidding of the work. Jerry Fuchs: But in that time also the county is supposed to put the bids that they have up is my understanding. Commissioner Tuley: I think what they wanted to do was compare. Jerry Fuchs: Prepare bids and we can compare them. Commissioner Tuley: If we could get a better bid than they could or they could get a better bid then he wants the right to choose-- Jerry Fuchs: Then he can choose what he wants. Commissioner Tuley: --which one it is going to be as long as it meets the criteria established. Jerry Fuchs: That's what Roger told me now. Maybe I'm wrong. Commissioner Tuley: That's the way I understood it. Jerry Fuchs: That's the way...that was the agenda. Commissioner Tuley: They both want to go out and get their own separate and if he either doesn't act on his or doesn't like-- Jerry Fuchs: Get together and compare them and he can pick his bid. Commissioner Mourdock: I understand. I'm just a little concerned about having the county basically bid for a private individual which is what we're really saying. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, I'm concerned about that as well. I think what...the only way you can do it is the way you approached it and the county will know from Roger Lehman's office with past experience, I think, with similar projects roughly what the cost will be. I mean, I'm sure he is going to know within a couple of dollars, couple hundred dollars-- Commissioner Tuley: He already has an estimate. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, he already has an estimate. Jerry Fuchs: Would the idea be that they would tell us what they think they can get it done for? Joe Harrison, Jr.: No. I mean, he's got an estimate. I mean, it is listed here on a sheet that we have from Mr. Lehman. President Jerrel: Joe, may I ask you a question? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Uh-huh. President Jerrel: Don't we ordinarily bid any way if we're going to have to do it? It's done like this anyway and then the bill is sent to us and we approve it. Joe Harrison, Jr.: They're generic bids. Steve Fuchs: Right. President Jerrel: Yeah, right. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But I don't think...there is not going to be any separate bid for this project. President Jerrel: Uh-huh. Joe Harrison, Jr.: That's, I think, what Richard is concerned about. Jerry Fuchs: I don't think they were talking about bids. They were talking about getting quotes. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right, quotes. Commissioner Tuley: Quotes. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But, again, it's just a generic quote-- Jerry Fuchs: In 15 days. Joe Harrison, Jr.: --which they have a standard quote out there, but the thing is they're going to have to check within 15 days to see if he has secured whatever and then you're going to have to be comfortable with the contractor who has quoted him a price. Steve Fuchs: I would think that we would want to say that in the 15 days a contractor has been to the Building Commission and bought the permit. Commissioner Tuley: If not-- Steve Fuchs: That way we are sure that the contract has been signed and that he intends to act on it. President Jerrel: And I can see-- Jerry Fuchs: Well, now that was not my idea. Not in 15 days. We was supposed to get together, the agenda was. Now, you tell me if I'm wrong. Roger said we would get together and compare the bids or the quotes. Commissioner Tuley: Here is Roger's man standing here and he is not saying that. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I'm not sure-- Jerry Fuchs: Not have a building permit to tear it down by that time. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I'm not sure what the agenda was. I have not spoken to Roger at all. Jerry Fuchs: Well. Commissioner Mourdock: I have this request here and I've just heard Mr. Fuchs, the other Mr. Fuchs. Steve Fuchs: I did not understand that it was going to be that we were gathering the bids that also he could take. It was he was getting bids-- Commissioner Mourdock: I don't like the sound of that. Steve Fuchs: --and if he did not act in a period of time-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right. Steve Fuchs: --then we would act with our lowest bid. Joe Harrison, Jr.: That's the only way you can do it. Steve Fuchs: That's what I thought was the only legal procedure you could go through. Jerry Fuchs: Well, does that mean we have to have the deal closed by that time, 15 days? Joe Harrison, Jr.: What that means is that you have to have a contractor selected and ready to go in 15 days or they're going to do it on their own. President Jerrel: You may not get a contractor that can be ready to go in 15 days. Commissioner Tuley: But if they got a signed contract in 15 days. President Jerrel: A contract signed. Commissioner Tuley: Yeah, that would stop your action. President Jerrel: Yeah, you wouldn't do it and that would be up to him, but I...you know, they are all busy so you might not get something done. I don't think July 1 is out of reason because you couldn't-- Commissioner Tuley: Well, I think with the idea that within 15 days they have a signed contract under the stipulation of what they've said from the Building Commission. That contract may give them until July 1 to get the job completed if everybody agrees to that. If they don't have that signed contract and I don't think it is unreasonable to expect them to have a contract in 15 days given the fact that we started down this road March 1 or in September actually. Jerry Fuchs: I don't either. Commissioner Tuley: But to give you until July 1 to get it done-- Jerry Fuchs: I don't think that a contractor can get to it either, you know. Commissioner Mourdock: Again, that's not what we're saying. We're saying just have the contract signed. Jerry Fuchs: I understand, but so we...I think we probably agree. President Jerrel: Yeah, I think we're all saying the same thing that he has until July 1, but we have to see something-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: In 15 days. President Jerrel: --in 15 days. Jerry Fuchs: In 15 days. Commissioner Mourdock: Let me formalize it in a motion here. I would move then that we direct Roger Lehman to seek bids if within 15 days of today's date that office has not received an application for a permit for the demolition of the property in question and that the work be commenced out there before July 1st as part of that permit application. Commissioner Tuley: Commenced or completed? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Completed. Commissioner Mourdock: Completed, okay, completed by July 1st. Commissioner Tuley: Unforseen circumstances such as weather. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah. Commissioner Tuley: We can be reasonable. President Jerrel: We're not unreasonable on that. There is enough work days. Okay, you made the motion. Commissioner Mourdock: That was a motion. Commissioner Tuley: I'll second that motion. President Jerrel: And I'll say so ordered. Okay, you guys keep us posted. Thank you very much. Steve Fuchs: Thank you.
President Jerrel: Okay, the next item on the agenda is
any group or individual that wishes to address the Board?
President Jerrel: Seeing none, we'll move to the County Engineer. John Stoll: I've got a letter from B.M.B. Incorporated requesting a ten work day extension on the Ward Road project. It is recommended that this extension be granted on the basis of delays associated with utility relocations and weather. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the extension. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. John Stoll: Next I've got a request from Deig Brothers for a two day road closure extension on the No. 3 School Road culvert replacement. They had a substantial increase in patching required on this job and the placement of that necessitated the increased road closure time and it is recommended that this be approved. President Jerrel: Is there a motion? Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. John Stoll: I've also got a request for a two day extension on the Hepler Road project. This is from Southwest Engineering and here again we had a slight delay in utility relocations and weather delays. It is recommended this two day extension be approved. Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. John Stoll: Next I've got a set of street plans that I am requesting approval on. It's R.D. Patel Subdivision. This is located on North Highway 41 right there on the curve of the existing road the Denny's Diner is located. This will provide an extension of Elpers Road south to access three additional lots. We've reviewed the plans and would recommend that they be approved. President Jerrel: Are there any questions? Is there a motion? Commissioner Tuley: I'll so move. Commissioner Mourdock: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. John. Commissioner Tuley: Do you got another pen? Will a regular one work? John Stoll: It might. President Jerrel: Here, I've got mine. See if you guys can get it. John Stoll: Next I've got another street plan approval request. This is for the St. Joseph Avenue Industrial Park replat. This is an extension of St. Joe Industrial Park Drive. This runs east off of St. Joe Avenue just south of the bridge over Locust Creek. The street that they're providing will be a curb and gutter street even though the existing street that is out there is just asphalt with earth shoulders, so in effect it will be a better road that they are providing an extension on. When they extend it they're going to extend it about 300 feet east and then they're providing for possible future extensions both north and south. We've reviewed these plans and would recommend that they be approved also. Commissioner Mourdock: We have all the right-of-way on that already right? John Stoll: They are dedicating it as part of their subdivision. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. I'll move approval as requested. John Stoll: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Were you able to write with that? Commissioner Mourdock: Yes, barely. Commissioner Tuley: Not very well. John Stoll: And the final item I've got is that right-of-way dedication that I just handed to you, Bettye Lou, for Virginia Street. That's for the 400 feet of Virginia Street between the Gershman Brown property and Cross Pointe Subdivision. It just needs to be formally accepted by the Commissioners. There is a signature line for that acceptance on the deed. President Jerrel: Is that what you just handed me? John Stoll: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move acceptance as recommended. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Joe Harrison, Jr.: In connection with that I have a letter from the Commissioners to be signed by Bettye Lou to counsel for the grantor of that right-of-way thanking them and indicating to them that we anticipate construction of that portion to begin late June or early July. Is that still... John Stoll: Probably mid June would be the earliest. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay. President Jerrel: But it is going to be finished, isn't it, this year? John Stoll: Right, based on the last schedule that Morley's office and I were looking at it we figured the project would be completed by September 11th. Joe Harrison, Jr.: So I have a letter to that effect. Is there is an approval of that action that it will be on that timetable. President Jerrel: You want to put it in here? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. President Jerrel: Is that it? Thank you very much.
President Jerrel: County Garage. Erik Bentle: I got sort of behind where I wanted to be right now in paving because of the weather we've been having the last week. We've been real busy cleaning up a lot of tree mess so tomorrow we get back on our schedule and get up on Speaker Road and get it finished and then we can move our equipment west or northwest and start getting that area and we're going to hopefully stay on schedule now if the weather allows. President Jerrel: You've really had a busy week, too. Erik Bentle: Yes, ma'am. President Jerrel: I don't know. It just all hit out on the north side. Suzanne was knocked out of electricity. Erik Bentle: We've had a lot of huge trees down. President Jerrel: Yeah, that's what I heard. Erik Bentle: And we're still not done cleaning the mess up, but it won't take as many guys now to do what we've got left to do. President Jerrel: Is there a motion to accept the report? Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Thank you.
President Jerrel: County Attorney. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I have I guess just one item. The first
item was already brought up. Or I guess I have another item as well. The
bids for Old Henderson Road culvert installation. There were two bids that
came in on that project. It's VC9905-01.
I would ask that you take these under advisement. Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Joe Harrison, Jr.: The other item relates to the Old State Road Barrett Law project. The County Council passed the ordinance approving the bond ordinance for the issuance of bonds in connection with that project at their meeting on last Wednesday. I think it was May 5th. Although it was passed by the County Council the Commissioners also need to sign the ordinance, the bond ordinance, and I would ask that you approve the signing of this particular ordinance. It's just a formality. It's not you actually passing the ordinance, but signatures are needed in connection with the issuance of the bonds. So if there is a motion for that. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll so move. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Second? Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Joe Harrison, Jr.: There is a spot for each of you on
those two pages. That's it, thank you.
President Jerrel: Superintendent of County Buildings. Tony Greubel: I would like permission to start trying to find an auctioneer possibly to have a county surplus sale at the County Highway Garage maybe some Saturday in June or July. We haven't had a sale for about a year and a half and over the winter we've got enough stuff where it's worthwhile to get an auction company out there now. President Jerrel: Is there a motion to proceed? Commissioner Mourdock: Always get rid of the surplus. Yes, so moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Tony Greubel: That's...tomorrow we're having the county surplus property sale at 10:00 a.m. That's it. Erik Bentle: Is that for the city lots? Tony Greubel: Yeah. President Jerrel: We'll let you know just as soon as we...we may get rid of all of them. Commissioner Mourdock: You can go bid if you want to,
Erik!
President Jerrel: Okay, Burdette Park. And it isn't going to rain in June. Steve Craig: I hope not. I hope it's just like it has been the last few weeks. Commissioner Mourdock: Really. Steve Craig: Even though we had rain the contractor had worked on weekends to compensate for the days that they missed during the week so we're right on schedule. This should be finished May 15th which is this weekend. We should start filling it the 17th of May and on May 20th we're going to have the patrol boys out there and kind of let them come in and do a test run on them. I think it's the...well, it's the next week we're going to have several grade school picnics where we're going to be open for a couple of hours for the schools only and we're going to open to the public on May 27th which is a Thursday before the Memorial Day weekend and the reason we're doing that is because that's the first day we can get a full staff of lifeguards. We was going to try to do it this weekend after the patrol boys, but the kids are still in school and some of them aren't back in town so we will open to the public on May 27th, Thursday. If the weather stays with us for the rest of the week they should finish up. The only thing they had left today when I left out at the park was the diving wall. The rest of the pool was done, but that is tricky because every time it rains it fills up full of water and we have to pump it out, so if we go with the dry weather we'll be fine. One other thing, if you guys know of anyone that would need a job for this summer we need a couple of girls in our office and we're having an extremely hard time. President Jerrel: Do they have to be girls? Commissioner Mourdock: I'm glad you asked that question. Steve Craig: I do not have that down here. I don't know why I said it. I had someone for the office job. President Jerrel: That's alright, Steve. Well, let me suggest something. We're interviewing. We put an ad at USI and called U of E for some accounting students. You know we had part-time summer help last year that had an accounting background and it worked out wonderful. Good experience for the girl and good experience for us, but these happen to be guys. One girl, one guy. Steve Craig: That would be fine, but the problem that we had we had three people lined up and they all went to work at the new theater. They're paying $7 an hour and we weren't quite paying that much and the two girls that told us they were going to take the job went to work at the new theater out there plus two or three of our ground crew are going out there I think. President Jerrel: Yeah. Okay, well we'll get you some names. Steve Craig: Yeah, because we got...I think Joyce said the only thing she didn't put it in was the newspaper, but she did at the employment agency and she had called the substitute teachers and, you know, she went through several avenues but we just haven't had many bites on it. President Jerrel: Okay, is that all? Steve Craig: Yeah, if you got my report. President Jerrel: Is there a motion to approve the report? Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered. Steve Craig: Thank you.
President Jerrel: You do have Soil & Water and Ozone.
President Jerrel: At this time you have your consent items. I would make one correction under the County Assessor, Liv's name should not be listed. She is not a county employee. It would just be the County Assessor. She is paying for it out of her budget. She is under contract, too, to the city and the county now. She took over that one the fellow from Jasper had. Commissioner Mourdock: I'm sorry, which one is it? President Jerrel: County-- Commissioner Tuley: County Assessor. President Jerrel: --Assessor. Commissioner Mourdock: You mean a pink slip? President Jerrel: No, no, it's a request for travel. Commissioner Mourdock: Oh, oh, okay. President Jerrel: Her name will be taken off. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. With that one exception I'll move approval of the consent items as filed. Commissioner Tuley: Second. President Jerrel: So ordered.
President Jerrel: You have your meeting list.
President Jerrel: Is there any old business? Commissioner Mourdock: No, but going back to meetings for just a second. President Jerrel: Okay. Commissioner Mourdock: I will not be present next week. I have to go out of town on some Koester business. Commissioner Tuley: Next week is the-- Commissioner Mourdock: Seventeenth. Commissioner Tuley: Yeah, I'll be here. President Jerrel: Okay. Commissioner Tuley: I won't be here...actually I forgot. We canceled the 31st and I won't be here the 7th. Is that the Monday in June, the first Monday in June? President Jerrel: Right. Commissioner Tuley: I won't be here that week. I'll still be in Florida. President Jerrel: Okay. We've talked a little bit, we don't have all of our names ready for submission. You want to give those that we're going to talk to or just those that we talked to? Commissioner Tuley: I would think you would probably only want to give the ones that you've actually confirmed with. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I have a list of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I guess Tony is one that has volunteered or otherwise been appointed, so officially as far as our item number one, local government elected or appointed official did we not appoint-- President Jerrel: Tony, yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: We can make some calls and get those confirmed before next week. President Jerrel: Now have you confirmed all these? Commissioner Mourdock: No, I haven't. President Jerrel: Oh, you haven't. Commissioner Mourdock: I made that list Saturday and then left it here in the office. President Jerrel: Well, we do have two that have agreed. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, why don't we go ahead and appoint those two. President Jerrel: John Walker from Bristol-Myers has agreed and Tom Bernhardt, Kight Lumber, has agreed to serve. Commissioner Mourdock: Which slots are we putting them in? President Jerrel: Well, I don't know. Commissioner Tuley: Good question. President Jerrel: Maybe we ought to just send the names to Tony this week and just see if they'll serve. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay. President Jerrel: And then we'll fit them in where they need to go. Commissioner Tuley: Best fit. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, so we'll hold off on officially appointing those two until we get all of them. President Jerrel: Until we get them all this week and then we can. Commissioner Mourdock: Oh, man. I've got to leave tomorrow and I'm going to be out of town all this week, but I'll try to make those calls from out of town to get back to you before Monday. President Jerrel: Okay, that was under new business, so we just talked about it under old. Okay, well that's all. Is there anything either one of you want to bring up? Commissioner Mourdock: Motion for adjournment. Commissioner Tuley: So moved...or second, actually. I guess you motioned. President Jerrel: So ordered. Commissioner Tuley: I thought you were looking for a motion. The meeting was adjourned at 6:20 p.m. Those in attendance: Bettye Lou Jerrel Richard E. Mourdock Patrick Tuley Joe Harrison, Jr. Suzanne M. Crouch B.J. Farrell Tony Greubel Jerry Bryan Rose Zigenfus Steve Fuchs Jerry Fuchs John Stoll Erik Bentle Steve Craig Others unidentified Members of the media
Vanderburgh County
Bettye Lou Jerrel, President
Richard E. Mourdock, Vice President
Patrick Tuley, Member
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