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Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners June 7, 1999
Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the minutes of May 25th. President Jerrel: I'll second
and say so ordered.
President Jerrel: The next item on the agenda is the certification of the Executive Session and we discussed litigation and personnel matters. Commissioner Mourdock: And I'll move approval of the summary minutes of the Executive Session of today's date. President Jerrel: I'll second
and say so ordered.
President Jerrel: The third item on the agenda is the opening of bids for VC99-22. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the opening of bids for VC99-22 which is a new four by four pickup truck. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. And then there is another. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I had that on one-- Tony Greubel: Yeah, that's a bid opening for VC99-06-01. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, I'll move approval of the bid VC99-06-01 for culvert replacement. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. Did you have very many bids? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes. President Jerrel: You go
ahead and start opening them. We'll move on.
President Jerrel: The next item on the agenda is Community Corrections, Mr. Howerton. Harris Howerton: Thank you. I'm Harris Howerton, Executive Director of the Vanderburgh Correction Complex. As you know each year I come to you all and tell you about the Community Correction Advisory Board approving a grant. It's a little different this year. It's a two year grant as opposed to a one year for us. The question that was asked of me was there any way to get any more money on the second year if more monies become available through the Department of Corrections and the answer to that is yes. We can always go through the process of an amendment. So this year...you may have read in the newspaper we took a cut. In fact, we did not. Last year's grant...or the grant we're operating under now was $395,186 and as you can see fiscal year 1999 and 2000 we'll get $434,752 and on the second year $434,180. The difference there is that we're getting a one time monies for the purchase of a van in the first year and then we also for both years and for years on we will also have gained a new employee, a case worker for the Community Corrections program. I'd be glad to answer any questions. President Jerrel: For the second year? Harris Howerton: Yes, first and second year. President Jerrel: Okay, so the case worker you actually will be paying three, six, nine, twelve people out of the grant? Harris Howerton: Yes. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the grant request as submitted. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. And how are we coming along with the roof? Harris Howerton: Just the other day we were notified that the insurance company, our insurance company, will pay $7,200 towards fixing the roof. We have a bid from US Industries and it's about $10,000 and the Job's Program Board has decided to go ahead and pay the difference to have a better roof put on it. President Jerrel: Okay, so when you say our, who is it? Harris Howerton: Torian, I'm sorry. The Torian, the county's insurance. President Jerrel: Oh, so the county's insurance. Harris Howerton: And they have also...they'll notify the other insurance, Grange, that they will subrogate. President Jerrel: Okay, so the Thrifty Roofing will be held responsible? Harris Howerton: Yes. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Maybe. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, maybe. Harris Howerton: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: So it's basically getting the checks written, but the argument isn't necessarily over. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Pardon me? Commissioner Mourdock: I say essentially we're getting the checks written to get the work done, but the arguments aren't necessarily over. Joe Harrison, Jr.: That's...I'm sure that's true. Harris Howerton: They're just beginning. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, probably just beginning. President Jerrel: Okay, when will they start? Harris Howerton: I talked to them Friday and they said sometime this week. President Jerrel: Because regardless of what else is happening we need the roof repaired. Harris Howerton: We need a roof, yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: Harris, I am going to be out of town tomorrow, but would you give me a call on Wednesday, please, so I can talk to you? Harris Howerton: Sure. Did you get a call from the Sheriff today about the teleconference? Commissioner Mourdock: Yes, I did, on the 16th at 10:30. Harris Howerton: Right. Commissioner Mourdock: At USI. I hope to be there. I have a Board of Director's meeting that same morning that starts at 8:00. Usually they're over by about 10:30 so I may be a little bit late, but other than that I will be there. Harris Howerton: Okay, thank
you.
President Jerrel: Okay, the next item on the agenda is an amendment to the Brink's contract. Tony, is there somebody going to be here for that? Tony Greubel: No, they were just needing to raise it from $216 for each department to $229.15. That's for the County Treasurer and the County Clerk. Commissioner Mourdock: Do you know, Tony, what is their actual function here? I didn't know that we used Brink's until I saw this. Tony Greubel: Yeah, they collect...they've been doing this for...ever since I've been here. They go to the County Clerk's Office and to the County Treasurer for security. There was talk about one time having maybe the Sheriff do this, but for insurance reasons it was better to have this. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, I'll move approval of the amendment as submitted in the packet this evening. President Jerrel: I'll second
and say so ordered. It's a six percent increase.
President Jerrel: Next on the agenda is the County Auditor. Suzanne Crouch: Charlene is...this is for her, but she is in the other room. She indicated that the gentleman, Lee Mortensen is not here, is not present, but he was informed of the meeting on the vacation. Commissioner Mourdock: The vacation of 1301 Mortensen Lane. Joe Harrison, Jr.: No, we don't need him here other than it was my understanding that the Drainage Board is going to have to also act on the vacation of the drainage easement or easement because it does contain a drainage easement as well and it would be my recommendation that this Board could pass it on first reading tonight, have the matter considered by the Drainage Board when it meets in two weeks and then have the final reading after that to make sure it gets beyond Drainage Board, or gets Drainage Board approval. President Jerrel: Well, there are two of them here. There is the Mortensen and then the one above it was 5020 North Posey County Line Road. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay, I'm sorry. I was just talking about the Mortensen. Is he here? And the other one? Suzanne Crouch: No. President Jerrel: I don't think either one of them. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, that can be considered, but the first one ought to have first approval tonight and then the second approval will be following the Drainage Board meeting whereas we could consider the other one. President Jerrel: Now you're referring to 5020 North Posey County Line Road? Joe Harrison, Jr.: That is one that is not Mortensen, right? Commissioner Mourdock: That's correct, it is not. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, that can be considered tonight on first. Commissioner Mourdock: On first, yeah. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Both of them would be first. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, just to stick with the order on the agenda here, I'll move that on first reading we approve the vacation of the easement at 5020 North Posey County Line Road as submitted. President Jerrel: This is a 12 foot strip. And I will-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: Wait a minute. The one on-- Tony Greubel: North Posey County Line Road-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: Is just permission to advertise. So that's...go ahead and do that. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, thanks. I'll amend the motion. I'll move that we advertise the vacation of the easement at 5020 North Posey County Line Road. President Jerrel: And I'll
second and say so ordered and then we're reading for the vacation.
Commissioner Mourdock: Right. President Jerrel: Mr. Mortensen. Commissioner Mourdock: Mr. Mortensen. Are you Mr. Mortensen? Lee Mortensen: Yes. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, we're just at your item on the agenda here. Lee Mortensen: My name is Lee Mortensen, Castle Contracting. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Sir, did you have an opportunity to speak with Bill Jeffers from the Surveyor's Office? Lee Mortensen: Yeah, he would like me to go before the Drainage Board the 28th. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay. This body could consider the request this evening on a first reading and hold the second reading after the Drainage Board approval assuming they approve it. Lee Mortensen: Yeah. Joe Harrison, Jr.: We ought to probably put it in that order, so they could consider it on first reading tonight and have the second reading in July or...it would probably have to be July. Lee Mortensen: That's at the end of the month, the Drainage Board. President Jerrel: Is there a motion approving on first reading? Commissioner Mourdock: On first reading I'll move the approval of the vacation of the easement at 1301 Mortensen Lane. President Jerrel: I'll second and say so ordered and you'll be on the Drainage Board. Lee Mortensen: Yes. Joe Harrison, Jr.: You may want to be there on that particular evening if you need to be, but I'm sure you've had some discussions with Mr. Jeffers. Lee Mortensen: Yeah, I talked to Bill about it. He was going to try and swing by. I sent him a letter and then he just hadn't had a chance to get by yet, but he said he would take a look at it. He said he didn't really see any problem with it right off the bat. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Good, okay, thank you. Lee Mortensen: Thank you.
President Jerrel: Going back to Item F on the agenda, the Building Authority amended memorandum of understanding. This is...you have checked this, Joe? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes. This is essentially a revision to the original memorandum of understanding between the parties that was entered into a couple of years ago. This particular document sets forth depreciation reserves that will be required to be paid by the county to the Building Authority during the life of the bonds. President Jerrel: For The Centre? Joe Harrison, Jr.: For The Centre and also the energy savings contract that the Building Authority has entered into with a subsidiary of SIGECO with respect to the heating and air equipment in the facility and also there is a provision in there for coupon and bond expense and builder's risk insurance just for this year. Coupon and bond expense thereafter and appraisals thereafter. But, again, these are just obligations that the county will have to the Building Authority solely and the biggest number will be the depreciation reserves. The county will be required to pay depreciation reserves on The Centre up to 2011. There is a...what is intended by this agreement is to try to reach a $3 million fund of depreciation reserves by payments by the county and then interest will be made off the fund thereafter. Commissioner Mourdock: Assuming we reach the $3 million it's capped at $3 million? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes, that is the intent. Also, it's, you know, considered that probably in ten or 12 years or so when that cap is reached there may be a need for use of depreciations. Hopefully not, but this agreement sets forth the types of things that would be intended for use by the depreciation reserves. This agreement has been signed by the Building Authority at their last board meeting. President Jerrel: Would you look at item six on page two. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes, that's no different from what has been going on now. That talks about the payment of costs. The reason that's the case is because of the fact that the county received a portion of the funds in its name after the bonds were issued because of the small portion of the lot that is still owned by the county where the exhibition center is. President Jerrel: Okay, but it doesn't spell out what particular invoices these are. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, this relates to construction. I mean, this has been going on for the last year. President Jerrel: Right. Joe Harrison, Jr.: The construction money has just been paid...all the construction money is going to be used. It really doesn't matter, but they had to break it into three fourth/one-fourth breakdown from the original $35 million and things have been paid proportionately up to this point. But all the money is going to be spent in that construction fund. Hopefully there will be some contingency left over, but all the money is probably going to be spent. I wish it wasn't, but it probably will be. Also, with respect to The Centre I was going to contact Mr. Utley to see if we could get a report within the next couple of weeks from Industrial as to the progress. It was my original understanding that Section A was supposed to be completed in June of this year. I don't know where they are with that. B and C were down the road, but A was supposed to be done this month. Commissioner Mourdock: Well, I, yeah, would like to chase that too because I was thinking the same. Between either you or Tony, if you would, please give them a call and maybe two weeks or so from tonight or even...let's see the first Monday in July. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Maybe even next week. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, whenever. I would like to hear what the report is as well because it's-- President Jerrel: Could we ask that the project director come back and make a brief report? Commissioner Mourdock: Sure. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Sure, oh yeah, from Industrial? President Jerrel: Yes. Commissioner Mourdock: Industrial, I can't think of his name. President Jerrel: That would have more meaning for me if that would be alright with you? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Sure, and someone from Veazey. Commissioner Mourdock: That's right in line with what I thought. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But certainly-- Commissioner Mourdock: The fellow from Industrial whose name escapes me. Danny something. President Jerrel: Is that okay? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah, that's the person we want here. I think his name is Hoefling, Dan Hoefling. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah. President Jerrel: Is there a motion regarding this? Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the amended memorandum of understanding for our client number 8703.003 as submitted by the County Attorney. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. How are the bid openings going? Joe Harrison, Jr.: They're still coming. President Jerrel: Okay, alright
I'll keep moving then until you get ready.
President Jerrel: At this time is there anyone here that wishes to speak to the Commissioners? There is an item on the agenda. Yes, sir. Gary Bush: I'm Gary Bush, the president of the Audubon Estates Neighborhood Association. It's a subdivision that is in Vanderburgh out on the east side just before the Warrick County line. I don't know if you're familiar with that. Recently, Friday, I guess it was Friday, we found out that the Commissioners had approved the extension of Ridgeway from our subdivision into the neighboring subdivisions. We're here to...first of all, we didn't know about this. We feel like we were not given consideration to the impact on our neighborhood. Now maybe there was some kind of notice in those fine print in the newspaper, I don't know that, but certainly isn't something that somebody sits and reads. We're here to find out or to request that we suspend that particular process until something is discussed about it. We have, as late as Friday night when we found out, got together with our neighborhood and we brought petitions, etc., and what we're here for is to try to at least stop the process until we can discuss it and the impact on our neighborhood which I think will be great. Traffic through that subdivision will be unreal, I believe, plus the land behind us which is adjoining that is not developed yet, so my suspicion is when that's developed we'll even have a greater amount of traffic. The current time we already experience congestion in the entrance of our subdivision. It just seems like a bad deal to us. Tom Gregory is here. He's got the petitions and numbers and things like that and I would like to ask Tom to say something, please. Tom Gregory: Yes, my name is Tom Gregory. I'm a resident and one of the Board members and we went out and got the petitions. We had 84 residents out of 124 that is against it. That don't mean the other 40 is for it, we just didn't get around to getting the other 40. You can see they had a little rain on them, but they're still legible and there is 120 signatures. We didn't count that because under our bi-laws we have to have a majority before we can act as a neighborhood association and we have the majority, more than the majority. So as Gary said we're asking to put this on hold until we can talk about it because I think it would be a bad mistake and we'll say, oh, I wish we wouldn't have done it because when you look at the subdivision, the ones in Ridgeway that joins our subdivision, Audubon, Chickasaw, and you also have to look at Fuquay Road because they come off of Fuquay. I've been out around Fuquay between Pollack and Covert and that is kind of a bottleneck early in the morning. Well, you know which way they're going to shoot, they're going to shoot right down Ridgeway right into Audubon Estates, right down Plaza and Covert as a shortcut. As Gary said, we've got a problem, too, in the future we don't know how we can address, but hopefully we're going to have nice homes behind us. Of course, we've got the Area Plan Commission looking at that to make sure and we're on the mailing list and that is probably where we goofed. We didn't ask to be on the mailing list of the County Commissioners or we probably would have picked it up. We didn't think about traffic. We only thought about zoning, but these petitions here, I can give them to whoever wants them here. President Jerrel: I'd like to have them, please. Tom Gregory: Like I said, they've got a little rainwater on them. President Jerrel: Yeah, thank you. Tom Gregory: So does anybody else got anything they want to say? Thank you. President Jerrel: Mr. Gregory, I had a question. Tom Gregory: Sure. President Jerrel: I wasn't a member of this Board when the decision...or when the subdivision was built, so I don't really have a good background. I did go out there yesterday and drive around and I know Mr. Mourdock has also. I drove all around your subdivision and then the Ridgeway straight to Fuquay and the homes that are at the west end of Ridgeway. Why was that not finished originally? Tom Gregory: Ridgeway? President Jerrel: Uh-huh. Tom Gregory: I think the reason it wasn't finished is because...I'm not really sure about that. I've been out there since 1990. I think the land was Kattmann and Bussing was the one that had the land when they started building houses there. I understand that they didn't want to open it up because I don't think the residents wanted it opened up. I think that's the reason. That's the only thing I can figure out. We were so surprised when it opened up because we thought it was pretty well a dead issue, you know, that they saw that the traffic pattern was not right to bring one area into another area as a shortcut and that's what it is. It's like a shortcut. President Jerrel: It was...you know, when I went out there yesterday I could...you know, you can drive. It's straight though. It's a straight road that has about as much...it's about as wide as that table that's just green grass and it's a straight road here and a straight road here and a strip of green grass. Tom Gregory: See and then the barrier...the barrier was right up in the middle of it. President Jerrel: Yeah. Tom Gregory: I really can't answer it, you know, why they did it that way, but if you really look at the situation what you're going to do to Audubon Estates is you're going to have a shortcut for Fuquay Road and the residents over there to come through the subdivision and put it on Plaza because what you've got right there at the corner of Plaza and the short Ridgeway is a stop sign. They put a stop sign in. There is a stop sign there. Then Plaza goes all the way down into a dead-end. You're going to have a real traffic problem if you open that up. President Jerrel: This is a dumb question. Tom Gregory: No, there is no dumb questions. Isn't that what everybody says? President Jerrel: I want to know because I really and sincerely was trying to drive that area to see. You feel that the people up here at the north...this is my own scribbles, but the people up here at the top by Fuquay will drive down here and turn on Plaza? Tom Gregory: Yes, I feel that way only for one reason is because early in the morning when they're coming off Pollack they want to get to Covert. Okay, that is sometimes it is back to back traffic from Pollack to Covert. President Jerrel: On what road? Tom Gregory: On Fuquay. President Jerrel: On Fuquay, so they're over here on Pollack-- Tom Gregory: Right. President Jerrel: --and there is too much traffic. Tom Gregory: They will make a right and when they see that the traffic is too heavy, because it's only a two lane road. President Jerrel: Yes. Tom Gregory: It's only a two lane road. They will make a left on Ridgeway and come down Ridgeway and come right into Plaza, the only place they can. That's known as a shortcut. President Jerrel: John, excuse me just a minute. Our attorney...I mean our Engineer...excuse me, I just promoted you to a different position. Commissioner Mourdock: Some would argue whether that was a promotion! President Jerrel: This is John Stoll and he is our County Attorney. Tom Gregory: John, Tom Gregory. I talked to you many times on the phone. President Jerrel: We've been trying to put together...I mean, it really is an odd situation to have that little bitty strip out there on a straight stretch of ground and a barricade right in the middle of it. We asked that John research it a little bit and I know Commissioner Mourdock probably has some thoughts on it, but where are we? John Stoll: As far as why the connection was never made I'm not real sure either. Part of my guess would be when Audubon Estates was developed and this property east of Audubon Estates was a vacant field. There was no right-of-way to make the connection from Audubon east to the remainder of Ridgeway until the state came in and built I-164 because when 164 came through it split the subdivision that Chickasaw and Audubon, I don't know the name of the subdivision, but anyway it split that subdivision right in half and for the people on the north side of the interstate to have access the state had to build a road somewhere and what they did was they built the road...they built the segment of Ridgeway between Audubon and the old dead-end of Ridgeway heading east. Why the connection was never made on the remaining small 20 foot segment that we were going to do I don't know. We were ready to begin the project. The contractor was ready to go. The contract had been awarded and everything and then I got a phone call from Mr. Gregory and he had requested that we stop the project and I told him that we had initiated the project in response to a petition that we received last year and I told him that I hadn't gone out and verified where each individual address of the signers of the petition, but a lot of the names were on streets like Ridgeway, Chickasaw and Audubon so they were in the area, but I didn't verify whether they were in the subdivision or right next to the subdivision. Commissioner Mourdock: Did I understand, John, there was a barricade there until fairly recently? It was pulled out as you started this process? John Stoll: Right, there were guardrails out there blocking both ends of the road and there were also guardrails alongside where there was no road. Commissioner Mourdock: I noticed on Ridgeway it looks like it's just a base coat down there now, it's not the finished coat for paving, is that right? Maybe Erik can answer that. John Stoll: That's the paving that was done last year by the County Highway. Erik Bentle: That's surface on there. Commissioner Mourdock: That is surface, not just base? President Jerrel: Well, this is one of these testy problems. Erik Bentle: I did find out who took the guardrail down, too. It wasn't the contractor. The Bridge Crew actually took the guardrail down on the advice from the Engineer's Office so they could get started on that project. President Jerrel: Right, okay. Erik Bentle: Now we've got a situation out there where we've got a drop off and if a car goes off that we're going to be in trouble. President Jerrel: A drop off where? John Stoll: In the ditch. Erik Bentle: At Ridgeway there we've got about a three or four foot drop. John Stoll: It's the ditch that's off to the side. President Jerrel: I drove over that thing five times yesterday. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I drove over it three times. Erik Bentle: I went over it just today and it's got a drop off. President Jerrel: Oh, no. Commissioner Mourdock: I drove over it twice yesterday. President Jerrel: I went over it five...I went up and back five times until the neighbors got confused about who was out in their neighborhood. Commissioner Mourdock: I noticed there was some concrete, the old benchmark. John Stoll: The INDOT right-of-way markers? Commissioner Mourdock: My screen just went blank. Yeah, the old type highway markers there it looked like there might have been some right-of-way or something through there. I wondered if it wasn't delayed maybe originally because it was a utility easement or something through there. John Stoll: I don't really know about that. I mean, the right-of-way markers were, I'm going to guess, placed whenever the interstate project came through because the right-of-way to make the connection appears to have been purchased when the right-of-way was bought for the interstate. We plotted it up to make sure that there was no gap in right-of-way between Audubon Estates and Ridgeway over near Audubon Drive. President Jerrel: You know, you won't believe this, 21 people that live on Ridgeway west of it signed the petition to have it removed and 21 people on the east side of it signed the petition to have it moved. This is like playing Solomon. Gary Bush: (Inaudible comments made away from mike.) President Jerrel: Sure. I realize, Gary, you were referring to the traffic, but the fact that it is a street that heads straight through and just has a strip in the middle of it...or not in the middle, but down toward it it begs the question why in the first place. Commissioner Mourdock: But did I understand you that 21 people are on each side of the issue? President Jerrel: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: So some want it paved? President Jerrel: Well, the new petition has 21 Ridgeway people. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, right. President Jerrel: And the old one had 21 Ridgeway people. Tom Gregory: Was it equal, same amount? President Jerrel: Yeah. Tom Gregory: See, that was the interesting thing when I went out. You know when we went out with that petition we didn't have no way to sell it. All we said is what do you think about Ridgeway being opened to the subdivision and the people would come back and say, wait a minute I don't like it. That's the way we approached the people. It wasn't something we were going to sell. President Jerrel: Are the people on the east side of Ridgeway in your association? Tom Gregory: On the east side, they're in our association? Several members from audience: No. Tom Gregory: No, on the west. We're on the west. Commissioner Mourdock: I know, my question was about those on the east. President Jerrel: The ones that are down near Fuquay. Tom Gregory: We're on the west. The east is the other side. That was interesting. There was only...if you want to come down to it there was only four that said...that we contacted one couldn't speak English so we put them as a no. The other three had a reason. One was a fire chief, Emmett Tramill, I think it is. He is a fire chief and he said I couldn't sign that he says, you know, because I would be in trouble and the other two-- President Jerrel: Why would he be in trouble? Commissioner Mourdock: He fears because of public access in case there is a fire it needs to be-- President Jerrel: Oh, one of the reasons on theirs was it would improve the access. Tom Gregory: Yeah, we knew that. He said I couldn't sign it, so that's the only ones that we were able to contact. We'll get you probably about 110 or 120 when we get through. Commissioner Mourdock: But the question, just to clarify, the question isn't simply about how many are on this side of the line that say we should and how many are on this side of the line that say we shouldn't. The question is what is the best traffic plan for the area. That's where, again, John, I'm looking for help here as far as anything we might have from EUTS or otherwise and also what the total plan was. I guess the county has had that right-of-way-- John Stoll: It appears since about `87 I believe it was. Commissioner Mourdock: So even at the time that the whole subdivision on the west side of the line...even before that subdivision was put in the county had that right-of-way, is that right? John Stoll: Probably for certain phases of the subdivision, but not the entire subdivision. Commissioner Mourdock: Was that subdivision started on the west and moved east, is that right? John Stoll: It worked south. It started up at Covert and they platted south-- Commissioner Mourdock: And moved south. John Stoll: --sections of it as they headed south, so the right-of-way from the subdivision I don't know when exactly that phase was dedicated, but on the east side of that line outside the boundary of the subdivision came about through the interstate project based on the deeds that we saw so that came about in `87 so depending on when they platted that phase it could have been `87. It could have been a year or two later or it may have been a year two before, I'm not exactly sure. President Jerrel: Could we let this gentleman speak and then if you don't mind to wait I had a couple of questions to ask you. Jay Pack: My name is Jay Pack and I'm a resident of Audubon Estates. What I have to say is relatively minor, but I did attend the church with the lady that owns the field that is in question there. Commissioner Mourdock: The field that is on the north side of Ridgeway? Jay Pack: Yes, that is correct. She was involved in that. She told me, this has probably been five years ago and she is in poor health now, but she told that she had verbal conversations with the people that were selling the land and selling the plots in Audubon Estates and that she had...I think they were interested in her for possibly selling that land in the future and changing it from a farming area. She said that she wanted to have that lot there herself. She was on that strip there on Ridgeway and that she had concerns about the traffic congestion and because the Ridgeway street is straight and long that she had fears that there would be a lot of the fast traffic that we're seeing on Plaza Drive. It's hearsay, but I mean it's what she says that she was into some kind of a verbal agreement with them to at least for the time being have that blocked off in consideration of the traffic-- President Jerrel: Was it a verbal agreement with whom do you think? Jay Pack: I think it was with Bussing and Kattmann. President Jerrel: Okay, do they farm that land or do anything with it? Jay Pack: She and her daughter co-own that and they lease it out to someone or they have a farmer. They don't do it themselves. They are rather elderly. President Jerrel: Okay. Jay Pack: That's what I know about it and I know that was her original intent and the traffic congestion and the flow is our concern now. President Jerrel: Okay, thank you. Connie Vowells: I'm Connie Vowells and I live at 1828 Plaza just right of where the barrier was. My husband and I, our concern is if it is paved to pavement that you'll have a drag strip situation because children do congregate back there quite a lot. That's our concern. We have police out there constantly. President Jerrel: Do you call the Sheriff's Department? Connie Vowells: Yes, we do. Dennis Vowells: (Inaudible comments made away from the mike.) President Jerrel: That's alright, do you want to give us your name? Dennis Vowells: I'm Dennis Vowells. Connie Vowells: We maintain that ditch back in there and, yes, we have called the Sheriff's Department numerous times, you know, for kids out there congregating and if that were to be paved, you know, I think we would have a real drag strip situation on your hands due to the fact that there are homes not on the other lot. Maybe the other homes that maybe they back into Ridgeway, you know, I don't know that some of those homes over there on Arcadian Circle or whatever that street is back there that they wouldn't hear them not like we would. We would definitely be affected quite a bit. President Jerrel: Do you have something to add? Dennis Vowells: Well, another thing I'm looking at even if this barrier that has been taken down they're only saving four tenths of a mile, but as you know that when people go to a stop sign today now it's bump and go it's not stop. So like my wife said, you're going to create a drag strip there and I just look that somebody may get killed because there is already enough traffic down Plaza Drive also already. So I think it's just going to be hazardous. Right now families enjoy walking through there, but that's not going to happen any more because somebody is going to get killed. President Jerrel: I'm going to ask our engineer to initiate something and then Commissioner Mourdock and I haven't really talked about any of this. In fact, I didn't know he went out there either. We probably had that place under surveillance over the weekend. Dennis Vowells: I have had it under surveillance and I did the mileage thing I know they are only saving four tenths of a mile. Commissioner Mourdock: The green and silver Dodge truck that was going back and forth between about 9:30 and 10:30 yesterday morning was me. Dennis Vowells: That was you. Okay, I was monitoring everything. President Jerrel: And I was later in the afternoon and somebody came out and waved me down. Would it be possibly...we had talked about some things that we could do. I had talked about speed bumps and John indicated that he didn't know if Indiana statute permits those and he is shaking his head, so you're saying you cannot have speed strips? Why are you shaking your head? Suzanne Crouch: Not on county accepted roads. President Jerrel: On accepted roads. Suzanne Crouch: Not on county roads. John Stoll: Right. President Jerrel: Alright, well then so much for that idea. Then I asked you about doing a traffic count. John Stoll: That has been requested through EUTS. They were supposed to put the counters out today both on Plaza and on Ridgeway. They was supposed to get traffic volume counts as well as speed data. President Jerrel: Okay, and if you would or if it isn't convenient maybe Tony could do this chore, call the Sheriff's Department and find the number of calls that have been received in that area and then have them observe the speed of the drivers around the area. You know, I don't know. I think that information will be helpful. I don't know that it will be a big impact one way or the other, but it will give us some firm data to work with. Yes, sir. Commissioner Mourdock: You need to come to the microphone. Dennis Vowells: It is just a small thing, but there is exactly three stop signs there too. If you're coming at the intersection of Audubon and Ridgeway there is exactly three stop signs and anybody coming from that direction is only saving, like I said, four tenths of a mile so it's exactly three. I just thought I would add that in. President Jerrel: Okay. Commissioner Mourdock: And for the record that was Mr. Vowells. Okay, give your name. Gary Bush: One thing that could happen even without this whole process of the Ridgeway thing is that Plaza and all that area back there is 30 mile an hour speed limit and with a narrow street like that, I mean, if it is 30 mile an hour out on Covert surely it shouldn't be 30 mile an hour back in a winding subdivision. President Jerrel: Well, that was the other item that I mentioned to you that we would look at reducing the speed limit. Gary Bush: Well, even without that we tried. We worked on that but we really couldn't find a way of getting that done a couple years ago. Jay Pack: I have a ten year old daughter and she is a straight A student and she follows rules better than I ever did. President Jerrel: This is confession time. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, confession is good for the soul. Jay Pack: She is out there...I live at the corner of Plaza Drive and Covert and even there when they are coming down to a stop it's a tremendous speed and she has had to not dive off the road, but I mean really scoot to get off there and I'm thinking that once that is open and that's a shot through there and when it's known to be a shortcut I'm afraid for my daughter, a straight A student and who is very conscientious. President Jerrel: Thank you. Beth Fields: Can I? President Jerrel: Sure. Beth Fields: A couple of different things. My name is Beth Fields. I'm a resident and I live on the curve and the neighbor that came over and talked to me after he spoke to you yesterday. President Jerrel: Right. Would you want to give us your name again? Beth Fields: Beth Fields. President Jerrel: Okay. Beth Fields: A couple of things that I think I just really strongly believe that one subdivision shouldn't be advantaged over the other and by opening that area that allows Chickasaw residents to come through that area and turn left into our subdivision and use Plaza Drive as an exit onto Covert I just think that is unfair to us as neighbors because it will put undo and extra traffic in our neighbor which is a safety issue as far as I am concerned for children and people like Dennis mentioned. We have a tremendous amount of people who do walk and get out and visit their neighbors and stand in the streets. The speed limit is 30 and I just feel like to put that excessive traffic on our road for us to maintain and keep clean is not fair to our neighbors when, like Dennis says, you're saving four tenths of a mile. I know that change is good, but I just don't really see that putting that excessive amount of traffic into our neighborhood benefits anyone. And it's a safety issue as far as fire, like they had mentioned, I think, on their petition about an ambulance call. I can't really see that an ambulance driver would understand the directions of going east on Covert turning right on Fuquay would be hard as compared to going east on Covert turning left into Audubon Estates and then turning left on Ridgeway and then turning right on Chickasaw would be easier. I just don't see that for them would be a good issue. Commissioner Mourdock: I don't think that's their point though. I think their point in that one is if the traffic is otherwise blocked out there and it means either they get there or they don't they would have that route as a secondary route. I think that's what the argument is. Beth Fields: I know one of the persons who signed the petition, you know, they lead us to believe that was the issue and I can understand more than the one access. I can understand that, but not that being the pusher for the access. President Jerrel: Well, I think what...I think if we go ahead and do some of this basic groundwork just to see what kind of traffic you've got out there- Beth Fields: I think that's an excellent idea. President Jerrel: And then take a look at the speed limit. Beth Fields: Because there are other areas like north of Covert Avenue that that subdivision is so chopped up that if you really had to make an ambulance call to any of the areas in those subdivisions you have to go and turn...go east on Covert turn left on Fuquay and then hit the first street to your left and do a zigzag and go around just to get to Plaza Drive where you can walk over that from Covert Avenue much faster. So I mean there are several issues around town similar to this. President Jerrel: Your whole subdivision is full of...I mean, it's very circuitous all over the whole subdivision. We do have an issue here that we did in good faith enter into an agreement and we did enter into a contract. So we've got to do something to bring this to closure one way or the other and I think we want to go through this for your sake we want to do the evaluation of these other issues. Commissioner Mourdock: Maybe you said it while I was otherwise trying to get my computer back on which for the record my computer seemed to die because you unplugged it with your foot there. President Jerrel: Well, I think by tapping my feet, so I probably unplugged you. I use the old fashioned one. Commissioner Mourdock: You may have mentioned this but we need...if there is any input that Rose Zigenfus and EUTS can get us that would be helpful and the second thing, I don't believe you mentioned this, but I would like to see John going back into the history of when that whole subdivision when that area was platted if, in fact, the intention then was to show Ridgeway all the way through there. In other words, if the easement was given at that time with the intention that from day one that was going to be through there that's important in my decision making, so if you could dig that up that would be helpful, too. John Stoll: The only place that might be is in the Plan Commission minutes. Commissioner Mourdock: Right. John Stoll: My gut reaction would be that was the intent simply because the subdivision did have the right-of-way dedicated to the east boundary at the subdivision. What the plan was from there over to where Ridgeway used to dead-end prior to the state doing their work, that I don't know. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, well if you could pull that together I would like to see it. If I had bought a lot back off in Audubon...I can't think of the other road back there. President Jerrel: Chickasaw. Commissioner Mourdock: Chickasaw, yeah. If I purchased a lot back there at that time I certainly would have seen a plat for the entire subdivision and I would like to see what that would have looked like at that time. President Jerrel: Somebody could look that up for you if you would call them I think that they would do the research. John Stoll: Chickasaw and all that was cut up by the interstate so their original plat is substantially different then what is out there right now. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, well just get me a bit of history to review. John Stoll: One thing you had asked too about the Plan Commission and EUTS concerns and situations like this the one thing EUTS has always been asking for on subdivisions as of late is to provide multiple access points to subdivisions so this falls in line with the things that they've been asking for. I can't speak for Rose, but this is a pretty common request that they've been making. President Jerrel: What kind of turnaround do you think we can expect to find? John Stoll: It shouldn't be too long. I should get the minutes for the Area Plan Commission meeting and the-- President Jerrel: Next Monday or the Monday after? John Stoll: I won't be here next Monday. President Jerrel: So the Monday after, okay. John Stoll: That would be fine. President Jerrel: Okay, so you all will know we'll have the information by then. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. Dennis Vowells: I just had one more comment. For the last four years I've been maintaining that strip and mowing it and making it look pretty, so I wanted to put that in there. Also, the ditch started to erode. Well, you know, I guess the county has easement, but it was starting some erosion and I just asked for some, you know, riprap and I never got that from the county so I physically went out there and dug it myself. My money, my truck, my gas, my effort and I did all that, so I wanted to put that in consideration. President Jerrel: Do you want to explain the ditch part that we can't maintain it? Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, but I don't know that matters. What Mr. Vowells is saying is if, in fact, that was county easement, which clearly it is. President Jerrel: Yes. Then he shouldn't have been-- Commissioner Mourdock: Then he was working on county easement, yeah, and he has put an investment in it. Dennis Vowells: Because they would not do it, so I just wanted to put that in there. President Jerrel: How long ago was that? Commissioner Mourdock: Four years. Dennis Vowells: Two years ago. Commissioner Mourdock: Which side do you live on of Ridgeway? North or south? Dennis Vowells: South. Commissioner Mourdock: So you live right on the corner there? Dennis Vowells: We live right next to it. President Jerrel: Yeah, okay. Dennis Vowells: So it's going to really impact us. Right across the street there is an 80 year old lady so I thought I would throw that in there, too. But anyway, so that's what I wanted. President Jerrel: We'll get all of this and come up with something two weeks from tonight. Tom Gregory: Bettye, I've only got one question. In that petition that's on the other side of Ridgeway, was Meridian in there and all those new houses back through there? President Jerrel: No, let me read to you where they got them. The majority are Ridgeway, Ridgeway, Ridgeway, Chickasaw, Chickasaw, Audubon, Pollack, Audubon, Audubon, Audubon, Audubon, Chickasaw, Chickasaw, Chickasaw, Chickasaw, Audubon. No, it's right in that part. Tom Gregory: You know they've got a new subdivision called Meridian, Meridian Drive. President Jerrel: No, there aren't any of those. Tom Gregory: All that traffic, that's how that Fuquay gets so bottlenecked because they are all coming out of there and heading to Covert. President Jerrel: No, their petition was just, you know, Ridgeway, Chickasaw and Audubon people. Tom Gregory: Thank you. President Jerrel: Okay, and thank you for coming down, we appreciate it. We'll look for somebody or however many of you want to come. Tony, I'm going to ask you to contact a couple of the people on the other petition and this goes to Charlene for the record. Okay, we're going to move on. You're welcome to stay. You don't have to leave if you don't want to. Gary Bush: Thanks. President Jerrel: Okay, are we ready for the bids? Uh-huh. Tom Gregory: Can we get on the agenda mailing list to be mailed to-- President Jerrel: Well, that would be the Area Plan. We don't...the only people that we mail agendas to are the news media. Tom Gregory: How would we get on the list? President Jerrel: Just pick up-- Commissioner Mourdock: No, he just wants to get on the agenda. President Jerrel: Just call. Commissioner Mourdock: Call Tony at the County Commissioners' Office. Tom Gregory: No, a copy of the agenda. Commissioner Mourdock: Those don't come out really until the day of the meeting, but if you want to be on the agenda listed as one of the action items as you heard us go through them tonight just call Tony, 435-5241, and just tell him you want to be on the agenda and we'll put you on. President Jerrel: Tom, I think-- Tom Gregory: What is his number? Commissioner Mourdock: 435-- President Jerrel: 5241. Tom, what you're asking is you want...here is how the agenda works. By noon on Friday all items that are going to be on the agenda are submitted, so they usually come in some time and then Tony puts the agenda together, a draft agenda, a mails a copy to the media, but the final agenda is distributed on Monday, like today. Tom Gregory: And I can call Tony and he'll tell me what's on it? President Jerrel: Yeah, and he'll tell you. Tom Gregory: That's what I want. President Jerrel: Okay. Tom Gregory: So it don't happen again, something like this. President Jerrel: Right. Tom Gregory: Thanks. President Jerrel: I'm sorry to continue that. Commissioner Mourdock: That's alright. President Jerrel: But I didn't
think he under...he wanted to know how.
President Jerrel: Okay, County Engineer. Your allergies aren't doing very well. Joe Harrison, Jr.: It's bronchitis. President Jerrel: Oh, okay. John Stoll: First I've got a special waste verification notice for the disposal of the paint chips for the Heckel Road bridge. Joe has reviewed these documents and they're okay to be signed by the Commissioners. It's basically just paperwork we need to submit to the landfill to get rid of the paint chips that were taken off that bridge prior to it being painted, so it is recommended that the Commissioners approve this. Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. President Jerrel: I'll second and say so ordered. John Stoll: The second thing is the easement for Williamsburg Apartments out in front of...out at the corner of Burkhardt and Lloyd. It needs to be transferred to INDOT since that will be their drainage structures to maintain. This is copies of the paperwork that we need to submit to INDOT, the deed and everything, to transfer this easement from the county to INDOT. Here again I worked with Joe to get this in a format that is acceptable and it is recommended that this be approved. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the deed to...is it a deed, I presume? John Stoll: Correct. Commissioner Mourdock: The deed to INDOT as requested. President Jerrel: Second and so ordered. John Stoll: The third item I've got is a request from the residents of Brookview Subdivision. In that request they are asking for permission to install a new subdivision name sign out in front of their subdivision. The old one was damaged and Mr. Jon Hubers had requested procedures to get this new sign installed. This is similar to what we did a couple of years ago in Green River Estates Section 3, I believe it was. I have worked with Joe again to make sure that all the right paperwork has been submitted and everything is there just like what we had done in Green River Estates so it is recommended that they be given approval to put this sign in. They'll be responsible for maintenance and they've got a hold harmless provision in their letter there. Commissioner Mourdock: The question here isn't about the type of sign or sign code it's about our easement? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. John Stoll: Right, it is going to be in the county right-of-way Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the sign request as recommended. President Jerrel: I'll second and say so ordered. John Stoll: Next I've got a street acceptance request for Riverwind Pointe Subdivision. This is for 962 feet of Fickas Road. This is a subdivision down at I-164 and Green River Road on the east side of the road. Commissioner Mourdock: Im sorry, I heard Fickas Road and I know Fickas Road, but I can't imagine much on there. What is this? John Stoll: They platted a new commercial subdivision on the east side of Green River and this is an extension of Fickas Road on the east side of Green River. Commissioner Mourdock: The east side of Green River. Okay, I didn't know Fickas Road came up out of the floodway there, but obviously it must. I hope. I'll move approval as requested. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. John Stoll: Next I've got a request from BMB, Inc. requesting a five day extension on the Old Henderson culvert installation due to weather delays and a back order shipping delay associated with materials needed for the project. It's recommended that this be approved. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the five day extension. President Jerrel: Second, so ordered. John Stoll: The final item I've got is a Notice to Bidders for contract number VC99-06-03, the frontage road at Baseline Road phase two. This will be the work we need to do out in front of the new Replas site plus the construction of the connector between Replas and Azteca. We're working on getting all of the right-of-way documents finalized and the agreement finalized with Southern Indiana Properties. In order to try and expedite the project and get it finished prior to the expiration of the Department of Commerce grant we really need to get moving on it. Commissioner Mourdock: And I left a message again today on Kirk Wright's voice mail. Have you heard anything from them on that deed? John Stoll: They did submit a deed. It had some provisions in there that needed to be changed. Joe has been working with their attorney to get those changes made. We don't have a final copy as of yet that we can record though. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay, when did that come in? Just last week, I guess? John Stoll: I think so. I don't remember the exact date. Commissioner Mourdock: We didn't meet last week-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right, it's probably been ten days ago. Commissioner Mourdock: --so it might have been in the last two weeks, okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I'm working with their attorney plus I am working with SIGECO's attorney as well, or SIPI, Southern Indiana Properties. Their office called me again today. The one attorney I was working with is out of town so I'm working with somebody else now. Commissioner Mourdock: Absolutely positively we need to keep this one moving, so keep pushing on this. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, I told them we needed it today and that's why they were, you know, wanting to...why they were calling me today. Commissioner Mourdock: That's why it's only next week! Joe Harrison, Jr.: I said we have to have it next week, so hopefully we'll have it. President Jerrel: And we really do because our-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: No, we have to have it. President Jerrel: --time is going to be up soon and I don't want to lose the Department of Commerce money. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Right, I told them that. John Stoll: I set this contract to have a completion date for September 10th which is the Friday after Labor Day, so that should give some time to get the final claims submitted and paid plus the audits done, so it's going to be on a tight time frame. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah. I'll move the approval to give notice to bidders as requested by the County Engineer. President Jerrel: I'll second and say so ordered. John Stoll: That's all I have unless you've got any questions. President Jerrel: John is helping to get the budget ready for me. We want to make sure we spend everything that we've got to spend on roads and encumber anything that isn't spent and get you a new road list of projects. Do you think another week? John Stoll: Yeah. President Jerrel: Okay, alright.
President Jerrel: County Garage. Erik Bentle: You've got our packet that I brought up here today for you. President Jerrel: Yes. Erik Bentle: It's got our weekly schedule in it and the attendance sheets in it. Right now we're a little behind on our paving schedule as to where I would like to be. The weather is sort of-- Commissioner Mourdock: We're 52 percent behind where we were last year. Funny you should mention it. Erik Bentle: Yeah, it doesn't look good, but we'll get back up there as best we can. Commissioner Mourdock: What's the main reason we've been behind, Erik? Erik Bentle: The storms we've been having. We've had a lot of tree damage and stuff we've had to clean up so we're still...from this last one Friday it just bombarded us. Commissioner Mourdock: Is it primarily just that the crews are doing that as opposed to doing the paving? Erik Bentle: We're having to make larger crews to get the trees picked up off the right-of-ways and out of roads. We've really had a mess this last time and the one before that really put us behind, too. Commissioner Mourdock: I noticed when I saw your report over the weekend and I was looking at it and I don't have that one right in front of me, but what are we, just seven percent? Erik Bentle: Seven or eight percent. Commissioner Mourdock: Seven percent done and last year...in fact it was more than that. Last year we were over 20 percent done at this point, so we're running way behind. Erik Bentle: So the weather has really put a damper on things. President Jerrel: Well, we don't know. We may have this one storm a week. Erik Bentle: Yeah, I mean, we anticipated a little bit of bad weather holding us up a little bit, but it's really bombarded us here. Commissioner Mourdock: And in fairness the ditching is still ahead of where you were even last year. President Jerrel: And if we're going to get hit then we may have to put smaller cleanup crews and let the paving people go on and get started. You know, you could probably get them out if you can get enough of them there that they can do the pickup. Erik Bentle: Yeah, the problem we've been having so far is that the trees that fell have been very large trees. They've blocked the entire roads and stuff and they've had a lot of trouble getting them cleaned up and stuff. President Jerrel: Right. Do the guys see the paving-- Erik Bentle: Yeah, they see it every-- President Jerrel: Okay, so they know it's important that we stay on schedule. Okay, thank you. Commissioner Mourdock: Since
it relates to the garage do you have the bid yet on that truck, Joe?
Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: Do you want to do those, Bettye Lou? President Jerrel: Yeah. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I think I'm next anyway. The first item I have is the bid, it's VC99-22, new four by four pickup and is this for the County Garage? President Jerrel: The Garage. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Okay.
There were two bids or letters that came in and they did not submit bids.
One was from Evansville Truck Center and the other is from Sternberg Chrysler
International. They didn't submit bids.
I would ask that you take these under advisement. Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. Joe Harrison, Jr.: The next
set of bids that came in are on VC99-06-01. That's the culvert replacement.
I'm not too sure which. Boonville-New Harmony Road. There were six bids
submitted.
I would ask that you take these under advisement. Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. President Jerrel: Second, so ordered. Then what will you do with those? Who is going to look at them? Joe Harrison, Jr.: We will let John look at these and/or Erik or both and make a recommendation. President Jerrel: Yeah, okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: As far as the truck, the same thing. President Jerrel: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: And any of the other Commissioners and then there will be a recommendation made at the next meeting. President Jerrel: Okay, what about...do you have anything else to report? Joe Harrison, Jr.: That's
all I have this evening.
President Jerrel: Alright, Superintendent of County Buildings. Tony Greubel: I have two items. I gave you a copy of a contract that Carl Hofmann signed himself with Ray Stradtner Excavating, so he is making progress on meeting his deadline for early July to raze the structure at 11800 Old Petersburg Road, that's a good sign. Ray Stradtner did talk with the Building Commissioner regarding this so he knows that this is a priority to have this structure razed by that certain deadline. President Jerrel: And will Charlene get that for her records? Tony Greubel: Yeah, she has a copy of the contract, too. This contract has nothing to do with the county. President Jerrel: Right. Tony Greubel: This is just for our information. Some of our Quitclaim deeds are ready for the county surplus properties that were sold on May 11th. About 14 out of about 39 so instead of signing them all at once I thought as soon as I get them it will save a little bit of time and I can record them a little bit quicker. President Jerrel: Okay. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move the execution of the 14 Quitclaim deeds. President Jerrel: I'll second and say so ordered. Tony Greubel: That's all
I have.
President Jerrel: Okay, Burdette. Boy, it's been nice and hot. Steve Craig: Yes, it has. Commissioner Mourdock: Things are hopping at the pool! Steve Craig: We've been extremely busy. I think we did as much yesterday as we did the whole month of June last year. President Jerrel: Is that right? Steve Craig: We had a very good day yesterday. President Jerrel: Good, good. Steve Craig: What we ended up...we repaired a four inch water main under the pool deck and we ended up repairing eight two inch return lines under the pool deck and replacing the concrete. We rebuilt the slide surge pit which somehow cracked over the winter. I don't know. I'm almost thinking that we had some kind of underground movement up there to break nine pipes and a surge pit, you know, and they're all in different areas of the pool, but that was our emergency work we did this spring. I got them all done and we were open. I would like to thank Deig Brothers for their quick action and good work that they did on it. We got our new water fountain in our lake, it was installed. President Jerrel: Good. Steve Craig: I wanted to say thanks to Marion and Sandie Deig for their generous donation to help us get our waterfall...our water fountain. It looks really good at night. It's got lights on it and stuff. If you get time you ought to come out and take a look at it. President Jerrel: I'd like to have an opportunity for us to go out there sometime before the season is over and maybe even depending on what kind of meeting we have we might even have one out there. Commissioner Mourdock: That's a great idea. President Jerrel: So it would be an opportunity. Have you been contacted yet by the people that are working on that big book that we're doing, the city and county and Chamber and all the people? Steve Craig: No. President Jerrel: She is going to contact you. I gave her basic information, but I told...and I can't think of her name right now, but I've got her card. She is writing the script, so to speak, for the projects that we thought we would like to have in that book. I told her you could give them a good historical background and she is going to try to take some...there is a Mr. Whitehead is the one doing the photographs. Steve Craig: I think I did. I can't remember her name, but she was on vacation. President Jerrel: Uh-huh. Okay, well she'll get back with you-- Steve Craig: Yeah, from the Chamber of Commerce and she is going to do-- President Jerrel: The Evansville book and it will be-- Steve Craig: Yeah, I think she said a study or something. President Jerrel: We thought you would be a nice one to feature, the facility. So, you know, that Mr. Whitehead, I think he has been out there. Steve Craig: Yeah. He worked on our brochure with us. President Jerrel: Yeah. Steve Craig: Yeah, he has done some work with us. President Jerrel: But I want your input when they get the final pictures done you can take a look and see what you like, too. Steve Craig: Yeah, I remember now. I can't remember her name, but when I had called her back she was on vacation. President Jerrel: Yeah, and she'll be back from that probably next week and get with you. Steve Craig: Do we intend on meeting with Barbara Cunningham this week still? President Jerrel: Yes, she called me and I called her and we've been playing phone tag. Steve Craig: Okay. President Jerrel: So I'll get her tomorrow and we'll nail down a time when it's convenient for you. Steve Craig: Okay, well Thursday I won't be available. President Jerrel: Okay, so you're okay on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday? Steve Craig: Yes, ma'am. President Jerrel: Okay. Suzanne Crouch: Steve, we had our family reunion out at Burdette this past weekend. Steve Craig: Uh-huh. Suzanne Crouch: And your staff and yourself should be complimented. It was just a wonderful event. The park was great. It was the first family reunion in 22 years and people couldn't believe because we always had them there before, they just could not believe the facility. We stayed in the chalet. Those are wonderful. Steve Craig: Well, thank you. Suzanne Crouch: The fee is almost too cheap. That's kind of a hidden jewel that you have. Steve Craig: Well, it's not real hidden. I think the next opening is in September. Suzanne Crouch: Is that right? Okay. Steve Craig: We probably turn away more people than get rented. Suzanne Crouch: Is that right? Well, you're to be complimented and please pass my compliments on to your staff. Steve Craig: Was the fountain in? Suzanne Crouch: The fountain? Steve Craig: Out in the lake. President Jerrel: You know where the lake is when you come in? Suzanne Crouch: Yes, it was. Steve Craig: Okay, because we just got it put in Friday afternoon. We had wanted it in for Memorial Day, but it was supposed to be in April 1st. President Jerrel: Well, I can tell you she has a lot of things on her mind, but the very first thing she told me this morning was about the weekend. Steve Craig: Well thank you. Suzanne Crouch: I didn't tell you everything about the weekend! President Jerrel: Well, I know, but I got the picture. Steve Craig: Thank you. Suzanne Crouch: You're welcome. Steve Craig: Did you get
our packet?
President Jerrel: Yes. Would you like to make a motion concerning Burdette, and Soil & Water, and Ozone, and the garage. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, I'll get them all. I'll move approval of the...or acceptance of the reports from the County Engineer, County Garage, Superintendent of County Buildings, Burdette Park, Soil & Water Conservation and the Ozone Officer. President Jerrel: And I'll second and say so ordered. Steve Craig: Thank you.
President Jerrel: Okay, under the consent items are there any questions or is there a motion? Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move approval of the consent items. President Jerrel: And I'll
second and say so ordered.
President Jerrel: Old business? Just the comment and Rose will come next week and we did get the $400,000 grant and we need to put our plans together so that we can begin that and I gave you copies of everything. We'll get together and talk about it next week. Commissioner Mourdock: Okay.
President Jerrel: New business? Commissioner Mourdock: The only bit-- Suzanne Crouch: I have just one little item. President Jerrel: Okay. Suzanne Crouch: I would like to speak with the County Attorney if at all possible about establishing two small petty cash funds in our office. We take in money through our exemption department and we also take in money through our transfer department and from time to time we have to make up change out of our own pocket. And I'm only talking about maybe a $20 petty cash fund for each, but I know that has to be approved by the County Commissioners and it has to be-- Joe Harrison, Jr.: I can help you with it, but it will have to be approved by the Council, I believe. Suzanne Crouch: Oh, is it by the Council? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yeah. Suzanne Crouch: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But I can help you. Suzanne Crouch: Alright, thank you. President Jerrel: And we do have one other item. Commissioner Mourdock: This? President Jerrel: Yeah. Commissioner Mourdock: Yeah, just I guess for discussion here maybe I should...fourth of July this year is on a Monday. President Jerrel: Uh-huh. Sunday and the Monday is the holiday, so we were going to-- Commissioner Mourdock: With Monday being the holiday do we in fact need to meet on the sixth? With that being the first meeting of the month that's a relatively easy one to forego if we wish to do that. President Jerrel: I think we wish to do it. Do you agree. Commissioner Mourdock: I was just waiting for someone-- Suzanne Crouch: So moved. Charlene Timmons: Second. Commissioner Mourdock: I'll move that we issue an advertisement that we will not be meeting on July 6, 1999. President Jerrel: I'll second and so order. Commissioner Mourdock: We'll try to take care of Pat's tears when he is here. President Jerrel: Yeah, he'll really hate that won't he! If there is no further business is there a motion to adjourn? Commissioner Mourdock: So moved. President Jerrel: Second and so ordered. The meeting was adjourned at 6:50 p.m. Those in attendance:
Vanderburgh County
Bettye Lou Jerrel, President Richard E. Mourdock, Vice President Recorded and transcribed by Charlene Timmons.
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