VANDERBURGH COUNTY

BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

JUNE 3, 2008

The Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners met in session this 3^rd day of June, 2008 at 5:00 p.m. in room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Jeff Korb presiding.

President Korb: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We have 5:00 on my watch, so, let’s go ahead and get started. Call to order, if we possibly can, the June 3, 2008 meeting of the Vanderburgh County Commissioners, in room 301. I would like to ask for introductions, if I could please, going from my right, television’s left.

Marissa Nichoalds: Marissa Nichoalds, Superintendent of County Buildings.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Ted Ziemer, County Attorney.

President Korb: Jeff Korb, County Commissioner.

Commissioner Tornatta: Troy Tornatta, County Commissioner.

Madelyn Grayson: Madelyn Grayson, Recording Secretary.

Bill Fluty: Bill Fluty, County Auditor.

President Korb: Join with me please in the Pledge of Allegiance.

(The Pledge of Allegiance was given.)

President Korb: Action items, the first action item we have is CO.R-05-08-006, abandoned vehicles resolution. The resolution that we’re asking for, we’ve had some interest in this, will waive interest in seven abandoned vehicles at Wolfe’s Auto Auction.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. Discussion? All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed? The motion passes.

President Korb: The next action item is the County Highway 2008 paving list. We have Mr. Duckworth with us tonight. Michael?

Mike Duckworth: Good afternoon, President Korb, Commissioner Tornatta, and ladies and gentlemen. Mike Duckworth, Superintendent of the County Highway Department. As you’ll recall, back in, and we tried to get them all in, I think, in February, but we ended up in March and April, conducting three district road hearings, where residents had the opportunity to come forward in each district and tell us of their concerns about local roads and streets. From that, from those meetings we compiled a list and had our supervisors travel, measure, and assess those particular roadways. From that, I’m here today to ask you, and I believe you’ve received them electronically, as well as in written form, a request for us to proceed with approximately 21.885 miles of resurfacing, at a cost of $955,304. That, in effect, would leave approximately $158,000 in resources for us to complete some other road work. We are currently at this time assessing several areas to see what exactly would be best practices and the most efficient way to utilize those funds. We’re looking at areas in Evergreen Acres, and some other areas that really have some problems. I’ve been meeting with the County Engineer, John Stoll, and his staff regarding the potential cost of those areas. So, I would like to reserve that amount to come back to you at a later time to give you a plan as to what we would do with the remaining resources. I would tell you that in your report you will see that that is quite a bit down from the 29 miles that we resurfaced last year. That is due to a number of factors. Number one, asphalt prices have risen, bituminous budget has been decreased, product prices of tac oil and Delimomene, which is what we clean our equipment with, has rised tremendously. So, all that information is there, but, at this time, I would like to request your consideration for the approval of the paving list that I’ve provided to you.

Commissioner Tornatta: Mike, before I make my motion. Every year we do this, and it seems like the process of getting everybody out and looking at what their streets, different streets, roads and what have you has been seamless. I would like to thank your staff at the Highway Garage, the Engineer’s staff, Computer Services, the Commissioners staff, because I know it takes a lot of people to get that going. Just make a plea to these people that feel like they have a place that they would like to see upgraded, a street, a road, as long as it’s on public property, we would like to know about it and to pay attention. About what date are we normally looking for these people to start coming up with these projects?

Mike Duckworth: Usually the first part of February we start advertising about the particular hearings in the districts. They usually take place in the second, third and fourth week of February. Sometimes, because of scheduling problems, they may go into the first or second week of March. Last year we had some problems with weather, and we had to cancel, I think, once or twice, and that extended it a little bit. You’re exactly right, it takes a group effort of the Engineer’s office, my staff, who goes out and actually assesses these roadways. We do a pot hole blitz to take care of some of the smaller repairs. We’ve had everything from requests to do new paving of gravel roads, to having to do some immediate repairs of damage that the flooding has caused. So, it’s really been one thing after another with our storms, our freezing and thawing, and a number of different conditions that have caused the deterioration of the roadways. So, I would say to you, I think this is an affordable plan that keeps us within our budget, which helps us kind of put some money back for the end of this season, which would be July or August, when we can take another look at what we’ve got left and what we can do for the rest of the year.

Commissioner Tornatta: If someone does have a project that they would like to submit, obviously, they can do that throughout the year–

Mike Duckworth: Sure.

Commissioner Tornatta: –at the Highway Garage, or through the Commissioners office. At that point, we’ll pile some of those issues up either to the end of the paving year, or bring it into next year’s road hearings.

Mike Duckworth: That’s right. We get down in the fall to the end of the season, and there may be just a section of a roadway that’s bad, and we may have just enough money to do that certain section. So, I would continue to ask them to forward us that information. We might be able to do some patching and that kind of thing. For those that came to the hearing that their roadways were not included, there are just a very few, they will either be at the end of this year’s list that we bring back to you, or we’ll elevate those to the beginning of the list next year. So, within a two year period we try to get to all the concerns. The folks at Evergreen have really got a problem, and some of the other subdivisions, because of the way the roads were constructed there’s springs and caverns and everything underneath, and it causes the roadways to cave in, and we’ll just deal with those as our money allows.

Commissioner Tornatta: Well, anyway, thank you very much for all the work you do.

Mike Duckworth: Thank you.

President Korb: Motion?

Commissioner Tornatta: I make a motion to approve the paving list.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign.

President Korb: You’ve got something else for us, don’t you, Mike?

Mike Duckworth: Yes, sir. As the seasons change here and we go from snow removal to paving, another big part of our responsibility is picking up the pieces and doing the repairs and the public works projects that our storms and our flooding leave us. A big part of our operation has to do with maintaining the ditches and the run off of our fields in the county. We have three pieces of equipment, they are called gradalls, they are rather large, expensive pieces of equipment that assist us in doing that work. Like I said, we have three of those pieces of equipment. One is designated to the bridge crew, the culverts, and to do bridge repairs and abutments near bridges. It’s a 2004 model and is doing fine. We have another model that is actually a 1997 model that has been a hardworking piece of machinery and is still going strong. But, in 2000 they purchased a model that was a little different in design and the engineering, and to be very frank with you, we’ve had a lot of problems with it, we’ve put a lot of money in it for repair. Today, after meeting with the consultants from Southeastern Equipment and talking to Marsha Abell, the President of the County Council, I am bringing to you a proposal to ask you to give me permission to seek entering into some type of a lease to purchase agreement with Southeastern Equipment. Mr. Ziemer has been heavily involved in looking over the documentation that they’ve provided to him in regards to the lease purchase agreement. We still have some information that we’re still gathering, but because of the proximity of the meetings, I am asking for you to give me that permission to go ahead and go forward to meet with the County Council tomorrow. I have at an earlier date described to them what I had foreseen to be the problem and that I would probably be back. I know Ted has some things that he needs to work out with their financing people. I am just going to go in tomorrow and lay it out for them and see if they can agree for a direction for me to go in regards to either purchasing outright, or entering into a lease agreement, or to, you know, try to figure out what it’s going to take to get that third piece of equipment out there working on these ditches.

President Korb: How far behind are you?

Mike Duckworth: I will tell you....I’m sorry?

President Korb: How far behind are you on those ditches?

Mike Duckworth: I will tell you that we have, we have back work orders of 110 ditch work orders that we are behind on. Part of that is because of the overwhelming amount of silt that builds up in these ditches, as well as the heavy rains that brings things into the ditches, which causes pipes and ditches to clog and then run over, spill overs on the roadway. It has just really been a mess for us this year to deal with, after the bad winter that we’ve had, and now with the flooding. So, with that regards, I would ask that you give me permission to go forward with the County Council to investigate the possibility of that lease to purchase agreement on a gradall. The value is right at about $250,000. After discount and a trade-in value on the piece of equipment that we would be turning into them, it looks like we’re looking at about $205,000. So, I would look for your permission to go to them, and their guidance as to how we might be able to do that, to get that other piece of equipment on the road.

President Korb: Mike, how long has this piece of equipment been down?

Mike Duckworth: It has off and on been down since I’ve been there, for three and a half years. It’s been a constant battle. I think, we went back and checked the bills, in the last five years we’ve spent over $50,000 in repairs.

President Korb: And your guesstimated cost to repair it this time is?

Mike Duckworth: Gosh, I would have no idea. They’re talking about a major component of this needing repair. I don’t know that it would be worth the value of what it would take to fix it. That’s kind of the, the way it’s been explained to me, I am going to get more information in regards to a possible number of what it would take to repair it, but I’m thinking that it is not going to be an effective way of remedying this situation.

President Korb: So, essentially, it would just be pouring good money after bad?

Mike Duckworth: That’s what we’ve, every time it comes to us we think–

President Korb: Sure.

Mike Duckworth: –that this is going to be last thing that we’re going to have to–

President Korb: You’ve got to make that decision to fix it or update.

Mike Duckworth: –fix, and then two weeks later it’s back in the shop.

President Korb: Right. Any other options? Because you know the Council will ask you for that. I just want to prepare you so you don’t get scaled.

Mike Duckworth: Well, we’ve discussed it. I’ve discussed it with Mr. Ziemer, and I know they are normally, for a piece of equipment this big there’s a bidding process. This, as talking to Debbie Spalding and Mr. Ziemer, I believe, by statute would, and I think Ted’s opinion was the same, would constitute a special purchase, which means that we could go into an agreement without bidding, because of the circumstances. The fact that it’s close in proximity, the availability of the equipment, they’re the only company within a certain mile radius. We really don’t want to purchase from anyone outside the community for tax purposes, but also because of the fact of the repair and parts and those kinds of things that you have to deal with. So, I would tell you that I have looked at all those possibilities, and I really believe this is the best attack that we can have on the problem. We’ll see what the Council says, if you’ll grant me the ability to go forward with it.

Commissioner Tornatta: I make a motion to go to Council for this gradall, with funding approval.

President Korb: I second that. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes. Good luck tomorrow.

Mike Duckworth: Thanks, gentlemen.

President Korb: You’re welcome.

President Korb: I’m going to suspend the normal function of our meeting tonight. I understand we have a special guest, Joe DeVoy in our audience. Joe, if you don’t mind, would you come up and address the Commissioners as to what you’ve been doing down at the Old Courthouse for us please?

Joe DeVoy: I would be pleased to. Thank you.

President Korb: You’re welcome. There’s no reason to make you sit through this entire meeting.

Joe DeVoy: Thank you. This is my daughter, Olivia DeVoy.

Olivia DeVoy: Hi.

President Korb: Olivia, it’s nice to meet you.

Joe DeVoy: She’s my helper.

President Korb: Good. If you would just state your name for the record.

Joe DeVoy: Okay, my name is Joe DeVoy, and this is–

Olivia DeVoy: Olivia DeVoy.

Joe DeVoy: Okay, our purpose here today is to give you an update on the current state of the Old Courthouse clock, and also to introduce myself to the new Commissioners. I haven’t been to one of these meetings in a year or two or three, and some new faces. So, I just wanted to put your faces with your names, and familiarize myself with you folks. I am the person that takes care of the clock, and repairs it when it breaks, and chases parts and things like that. But, I am nothing without my helper here. She is the official power up, power down person. She has a special tool that she does that with. Please show them your special tool.

(Olivia held up her finger.)

President Korb: Wow!

Joe DeVoy: Very important. I will not turn the clock off or on without her. She’s been going with me several years. So, I wanted to bring her here today to familiarize her with this process and everything. I also wanted to commend the County Commissioners and all those involved for the recent work and repairs done at the Old Courthouse. Very pleased with the condition of the utilities and the upgrades to the rooms, and I want to encourage you to keep improving that building. I know it’s a big expense. It’s a huge issue. I just want to touch on it, but it’s worth doing. I thank you for what you’ve done, and I want to encourage you to go on to the next phase.

President Korb: Joe, how old is that clock?

Joe DeVoy: The clock was activated in 1891. So, the math, who has a calculator?

President Korb: It’s old.

Joe DeVoy: 116, very old.

President Korb: How do you find parts for it?

Joe DeVoy: Actually, there are no parts. It’s in excellent condition, so, when something breaks it is rare. We recently had a part wear out, so, what we have to do is take it apart, and take it to a machine shop. Then, they have to either fabricate it, or repair it.

President Korb: My understanding is you don’t charge us to do that.

Joe DeVoy: That’s true.

President Korb: How come?

Joe DeVoy: I don’t, I’m not looking for recognition of any kind. It’s our service to the community. We’re just, we’re happy to be involved with it. It’s something that, we have a bit of family history with the building from my grandmother on.

President Korb: Okay.

Joe DeVoy: Taking the duties of the clock from the former keeper, Mr. Bill Harrison, and his father, they had it for many years. It’s my understanding since the ‘30's, so it’s a bit of an honor to do it. I can charge you though, if that’s what you’re asking.

President Korb: No, I was not asking for that, but that’s a great place for you to try to go down. Now, is it working? Did you get it fixed?

Joe DeVoy: The last guy got $200,000. So–

President Korb: Oh, my. Did you get it fixed?

Joe DeVoy: The guy with the gradall. Anyway, yes.

President Korb: Okay.

Joe DeVoy: That’s one thing that I wanted to say. It’s been down for several months.

President Korb: Right.

Joe DeVoy: It was a repair done by a local machine shop, that I understand we do, that the County does work with quite a bit. So, yeah, it’s back up and going, and in good condition.

President Korb: Great.

Joe DeVoy: I wanted to give here–

President Korb: Hey, Joe, real quick, would you mind, before you leave, can you fix our clock in the back of the room? Because we can’t get that to work like ever.

Joe DeVoy: It’s too new.

President Korb: Oh, thanks a lot. Okay.

Joe DeVoy: Would you give them all a card?

Commissioner Tornatta: Too small.

President Korb: There you go.

Joe DeVoy: This is my contact information.

President Korb: Great.

Joe DeVoy: In case there are questions with the clock, or if it goes down.

President Korb: Thanks, Olivia.

Commissioner Tornatta: Thank you.

Joe DeVoy: Those are my numbers where we can be reached.

President Korb: Super.

Joe DeVoy: As I’ve told you, this is my helper, and–

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: Does she have a card?

Joe DeVoy: She doesn’t yet.

President Korb: Now, Olivia, where do you go to school?

Olivia DeVoy: Helfrich Park.

President Korb: Really? What year are you there?

Olivia DeVoy: I’ll be in 7^th grade.

President Korb: 7^th grade? Good for you. So, tell me what the special tool does? You turn the button on and off to do what, while your dad’s up on the clock?

Olivia DeVoy: Yeah, it’s just all one thing. It’s just like a light switch. You just turn it off and it turns everything off, and you turn it back on when you want it to turn on.

President Korb: Good.

Joe DeVoy: Highly trained.

President Korb: That’s, hey. Is that it?

Joe DeVoy: That’s all we have today. So, thank you for having us here, and we look forward to seeing you again.

President Korb: On behalf of all the Commissioners, and really the folks that live in Vanderburgh County, thank you for loving that clock and taking care of it, because I know that’s kind of a tricky deal sometimes. So, we appreciate all that you do on behalf of the County.

Joe DeVoy: Thank you so much.

President Korb: I know you don’t want the recognition, but, Joe DeVoy, works at Alcoa, his delightful daughter, Olivia, and she’ll be in 7^th grade at Helfrich Park. Great. Thank you all very much. Have a great night.

Joe DeVoy: Thank you very much.

Commissioner Tornatta: Thank you.

President Korb: Thank you.

President Korb: Okay, we’re going to go back to our regular order of business, if we can. We’re going to go through our contracts, agreements and leases. The first one is with the County Sheriff and debt collection agreement for the county, for the Community Corrections. The second one is also with the County Sheriff on the DOC grant agreement amendment. The third one is with Burdette Park, preventative maintenance agreement with Evapar for the Discovery Lodge generator. The next one we have is with Superior Court, agreements for professional services in teaching “Thinking for Change” classes for the Day Reporting Drug Court, with Larry Paul, Deborah Mowbray, and Todd Wilson. I need a motion please.

Commissioner Tornatta: So moved.

President Korb: I second that. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

President Korb: Now, department head reports. Mr. Ziemer?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: I have one additional agreement, which is, it’s not an agreement, it’s a resolution which will approve an interlocal agreement between Vanderburgh County and the City of Evansville for the operation and funding of the City-County Building Department. The terms of the interlocal agreement were based on an initial form prepared by the Building Commissioner, and then reviewed by attorneys for the city, and by me on behalf of the county. We made certain recommendations for changes, which were made and agreed to by the city. So, the agreement is now in a form that’s satisfactory to the attorneys, and also to the Building Commissioner. So, if you adopt this resolution today, you will, on behalf of the county, be agreeing to this interlocal agreement. The City Council has yet to vote on this, but they will be doing the same thing at a meeting in the near future.

President Korb: Great, thank you. I see Roger Lehman here. Roger, is there anything you would like to say about this?

Roger Lehman: If anybody has any questions, I would be glad to answer them.

President Korb: Mr. Ziemer? Mr. Tornatta?

Commissioner Tornatta: Yeah, Roger, I had a question this morning, and business got away from me. What’s the revenue structure for the city and the county? I mean, how is that divided now?

Roger Lehman: Right now?

Commissioner Tornatta: I know now it’s split, is that correct?

Roger Lehman: Correct.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay, and what’s the new revenue stream?

Roger Lehman: Rather than taking money in from the county and giving the county money back during the process of the year, we’re going to keep all of the money until the end of the year, take the excess above a $50,000 cushion, if you would to prevent from having a loss in the following year, and split that 50-50 between the city and the county. Now, with the exception of that $50,000 cushion, I kind of in my heart think that’s what was intended when this thing was first done in 1985. What has occurred since then is that when more work is done in the county, we issue more permits, that money goes back to the county. So, actually, the place that we’re working the most, even though the county pays half of our budget, more money goes back to them than they are giving us. Well, than you’re giving us. The city has to make up the difference then. So, what this does, it just splits it 50-50 at the end of the year, which I think was the original intent. In the original agreement there was no revenue information. It was strictly the county pays half, the city pays half of our budget, and that was about it. How it evolved to where it’s at now, is, I know, before Auditor Fluty’s time, and, frankly, before my time. It really didn’t come to a head until last year when we were seeking to do some funding issues, and because we are actually a city department that’s jointly funded by the county, the city has certain mandates for revenue and funding of positions and that type of thing, that if we can’t meet, we can’t do. By doing it this way it won’t change the control, because we still will go before the joint Councils for our budget hearing. We’ll have to justify all of our capital programs, just as we do now. There won’t be any significant change there, the only change is that we won’t be trading money back and forth monthly, or bi-monthly, or sometimes semi-annually. It’s supposed to be monthly. We will just take care of it all at the end of the year, and it will be a 50-50 split, versus the county getting all the permit money back, half of the license revenue and all the citations, because, like I said, that’s in fact put the city in a loss position in operating the department for many years, About the last seven or eight years.

Commissioner Tornatta: Mr. Fluty, what is our, what will we recognize as a loss for the county?

Bill Fluty: A loss for the county?

Commissioner Tornatta: What does the county lose in signing this document? Revenue-wise?

Bill Fluty: I’m not sure we’re going to lose anything by signing that document. I think we’re making some clarification in this document of how that money should be–

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay.

Bill Fluty: –moved.

Commissioner Tornatta: I mean, I guess, and I remembered this, and, like I said, would have gladly made that phone call prior to the meeting, but if that amount of work, if there’s a lot of work that’s being done in the county, is that, I mean, are we going to lose those types of revenues coming in?

Roger Lehman: Well, the irony is, if there’s a lot of work going on in the county, that’s where our guys spend most of their time, and we’ve been giving you all that money back, from the revenue from the county, under the current conditions. So, it’s almost lopsided in logic, because where the most revenue comes is where we’re spending most of our time. The way that it’s been set up for these last twenty however many years has been that all that money would come back to the county. I agree with Auditor Fluty, I don’t think there’s going to be a loss in, it’s just a reorganization of the way it’s done. It will also provide a level of protection for the county in the future that they won’t ever get less than 50 percent of any leftovers. Right now, if things changed, and actually they have changed, this year we reduced our revenue projection in the county by $75,000 for this year, and next year by about the same amount. So, even though we’ve been paying the county more than 50 percent over the last six or seven years, from this year forward it’s probably going to go down to where you’re going to be getting less than 50 percent back. So, you actually could be in a loss position trying to....but, by doing it this way, at the end of the year we split it 50-50. It doesn’t matter where all the work’s done, or not done, everything’s kind of equal. As a joint department we think that’s fair.

President Korb: So, essentially, we’ve been getting a pretty sweet deal over the past twenty plus years?

Roger Lehman: Well, not twenty, but at least seven or eight.

President Korb: Okay. Alright.

Bill Fluty: I think this discussion has been going on for almost a year. Is that correct? Maybe a little longer. It went back to the original contract to actually look at, if 50-50 meant 50-50,was it? I think the conclusion between Roger, with the Commissioners, with Council, with City Council actually believed that it really wasn’t. They talked about how they could get there. If you want to say there is a loss to the county, to some degree yes. We’re not going to be splitting those funds, but we are getting back to a 50-50.

Roger Lehman: Right, we’re going back to what the original agreement kind of implicated but didn’t really define how it was going to be done.

Commissioner Tornatta: But, at that time, obviously, there was a different dynamic. We have more work out in the county now than was in the city.

Roger Lehman: Over the past seven years in particular.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right, when it was agreed to, there was more work in the city than there was in the county.

Roger Lehman: Well, it actually had moved, originally the agreement was in 1972 and was redone in ‘85. In ‘72 it was 60-40, where the city paid 60 percent and the county only paid 40, back in the 70's.

Commissioner Tornatta: But, they got the revenues in that capacity?

Roger Lehman: Right, right. But, there wasn’t much work going on in the county then.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right.

Roger Lehman: In the ‘80's, then, it kind of got balanced out a little bit more. I was involved in the discussions then, but I wasn’t the head of the department at that time. It looked like from a revenue and expense standpoint, it was pretty well 50-50. Then over the last seven to ten years it’s gone pretty far the other way, because of all the residential development in the county, and the commercial development on the far east side and the far west side. So, it’s been a significant change. This way it will kind of provide a guarantee in the future that neither the county nor the city will get hamstrung. It will be equal, an equal splitting of what’s left, or an equal payment of what’s not, hasn’t come in, in revenue.

Bill Fluty: I guess, we could say we were benefitting, to a larger degree than the city was, with the previous contract. Then again, if you, I mean, if you wanted to look at those numbers, or if you haven’t looked at those numbers and are not comfortable with them, we surely can provide those to you.

Roger Lehman: I kind of gave you a breakdown in that stuff I gave you at your place there some time ago.

Commissioner Tornatta: Yeah. Well, I guess, yeah, I was expecting a little bit more dialogue with the, kind of the stakeholders before this would come about, just to talk about what we were potentially giving up, as far as revenue wise to the city. If we’re providing most of the revenues, I mean, I’m on the county board–

Roger Lehman: Right.

Commissioner Tornatta: –I work for the county.

Roger Lehman: No, I understand.

Commissioner Tornatta: So, I’m going to protect the county revenues.

Roger Lehman: I understand. Absolutely.

Commissioner Tornatta: How does that go over to subsidizing a city office? I don’t know if that’s–

Roger Lehman: Well, actually the city’s been subsidizing the county.

Commissioner Tornatta: I mean if there was....pardon?

Roger Lehman: The city’s been subsidizing the county for about the last seven years. In fact, because, even though the county’s paying half of our expenses, we’ve been giving you back more than that in revenue. The city has subsidized half our expenses, and they are getting less than half the revenue.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right, because we’re providing the revenue.

Roger Lehman: Correct.

Commissioner Tornatta: That’s–

Roger Lehman: And we’re also doing the work in the county.

Commissioner Tornatta: But, if the city had the revenue, you would be doing it in the city as well. I mean, if the city had the permitting and what not, you would be doing that in the city.

Roger Lehman: Well, we do the same thing in the city.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right.

Roger Lehman: They keep what we don’t give back to you, which is everything inside the city. But, the, as I said, this year and next year, my estimation is that the county will lose money, if we keep the current one in place. Whereas, if we have this agreement in place, it won’t matter, as much, whether it’s the city or the county, because both will get half of either the benefit or the loss. I think the, you could be experiencing, this year, a loss, in other words you would be getting back less than you’re paying for 50 percent of my operation, because our revenue is more leaning toward the city side this year than it was in the county, because housing pretty much shut down, and commercial, the commercial operations with American General and some other big projects in the city, the University of Evansville, has created a fairly substantial revenue from construction there. The other factor is licensing, which always has been 50-50. So, it’s not been favoring either side really.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay.

President Korb: So, are you wanting more documentation? Is that what you’re asking for?

Commissioner Tornatta: What is the push to get this interlocal agreement done today versus two weeks?

Roger Lehman: There, it’s not–

Commissioner Tornatta: I mean, when would it start?

Roger Lehman: Well, when it would start based on conversation between, my assumption is after the city passes it, which I think would occur in the next two to three weeks, then the Controller and the Auditor would get together and decide how this funding thing is going to work. It’s going to be primarily on the city side, because we’re going to collect all of the revenue. We’ll still document what the county brings in for record purposes, but, at the end of the year it’s just going to be adding everything up, taking away the expenses, whatever is left we split up.

Commissioner Tornatta: Alright. I apologize for hitting you with this, Roger, because I know we talked about it.

Roger Lehman: It’s not a problem.

Commissioner Tornatta: But, it would be my recommendation to this board that we do make sure that our numbers are in favor of this process.

President Korb: So, you’re wanting to table it until the next meeting?

Commissioner Tornatta: I would appreciate to table this.

Roger Lehman: Roger, can you supply Commissioner Tornatta with the numbers he’s looking for, between you and Mr. Fluty?

Roger Lehman: I’m sure we can.

President Korb: Okay, we’ll just have you come back at the next meeting.

Roger Lehman: Sure.

President Korb: Great. Thank you. Sorry for the inconvenience, Roger.

Roger Lehman: Not a problem.

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: You should have a motion and a second to table.

President Korb: Okay, need a motion.

Commissioner Tornatta: I make a motion to table.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes. Thank you, Roger. Appreciate it.

Roger Lehman: Thank you.

President Korb: John Stoll, the County Engineer? How are you, John?

John Stoll: Pretty good. How are you?

President Korb: Good.

John Stoll: I’ve got a few things here. First, is a request for your signatures on the right-of-way certification letter for the Green River Road-Millersburg Road intersection project. This is just one of the items that has to be submitted to INDOT to certify that the right-of-way has been secured for that project.

Commissioner Tornatta: I make a motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

John Stoll: For your information, we’re probably looking right now at a September or October bid letting on that project.

President Korb: Great.

John Stoll: Once I get something confirmed, I’ll let you know.

Commissioner Tornatta: Alright.

John Stoll: The next item that I have is the Mylar cover sheet for the Cross Pointe Boulevard plans. I just forgot to bring that to you prior to bidding, but a cover sheet needs your signatures.

President Korb: Okay.

John Stoll: Then, the next item, I would like to request approval to go to County Council to transfer $14,000 from account number 2030-4420, which was the Hogue Road culvert repairs at Vanness, and transfer that money to 2030-3930, our contractual account. This would be to cover the cost of a replacement of a large culvert up on Old State Road.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

John Stoll: Then, next, I have a street plan approval request for Hunter Chase Subdivision. This is located on the east side of Green River Road, a little bit north of the Goebel Soccer Complex. It consists of a short extension of an asphalt road off of Green River Road. It’s only a few hundred feet. It will be asphalt with curb and gutter, and I would request your approval of those plans.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

John Stoll: Then, on that same subdivision, I would like to request approval of a sidewalk waiver for Hunter Chase Subdivision. There are no other sidewalks in the vicinity of that, and it’s, the front part of it’s commercial, so, on that basis, I would recommend approval of the sidewalk waiver.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

John Stoll: The last item that I have is an amended right-of-way purchase offer for Green River Road. This is for the Schnepper parcel. It was just a couple of weeks ago when I brought you an offer amount of $29,600, however, we’ve had to add a temporary right-of-way, which revises the offer to $29,800. So, I would like your approval to make that offer.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes.

John Stoll: That’s all I have.

President Korb: Great. Thanks, John.

John Stoll: Thanks.

President Korb: Any other department heads in the audience this evening to address the Commissioners? Seeing none.

President Korb: Under new business, we have talked about having a blood drive on June the 13^th, starting at 9:00 a.m. here in the Civic Center. It will be in the conference room right next door to the Commissioners office. We have a need for 16 volunteers to donate their time and blood. It starts at 9:00, and each session is an hour at a time. So, at 9:00 we’ll have room for two, at 10:00 we’ll have room for two, etcetera down the road. So, to make this a Commissioner sponsored event, we’ve talked with Commissioner Nix and also with Commissioner Tornatta, and, Troy, I need that in the form of a motion, if that’s okay?

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve.

President Korb: Great. So, and I second that. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. So, for those of you that are watching and feel like being philanthropic with your blood, just call the Commissioners office at 435-5241, and we will be more than happy to schedule an appointment. But, the other reason why we’re having it here in the Civic Center is to make it convenient for employees, both city and county alike. This is a compliment to what Debbie Titzer does on the city side once a year. So, what we’re going to wind up doing is we’ll wind up donating blood from the city-county building four times a year, instead of just one time a year. We’ve talked to Debbie about that, and she’s going to help us with lining people up for that. So, thank you, Commissioner Tornatta for that. Any old business to appear before the Commissioners this evening?

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.: I would like to volunteer to do that, because I always think the Commissioners want my blood.

President Korb: Do not let him get away until he has signed the dotted line, Marissa. You know how attorneys can be sometimes.

President Korb: Old business? Any old business? Seeing none.

President Korb: Moving on to public comment. Anybody in the audience that wishes to publicly comment? Seeing none.

Commissioner Tornatta: I did forget one thing.

President Korb: Sure.

Commissioner Tornatta: There has been one or two calls about some debris or what not that’s around the BFI, the old BFI site down at, help me out, Laubscher Yards, which is now, it’s still Laubscher Yards.

President Korb: Motoux Park?

Commissioner Tornatta: No, no, no, Laubscher Yards, where the dump is.

President Korb: Okay.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay?

President Korb: Laubscher Meadows.

Commissioner Tornatta: Right, and, essentially, there’s been some comment about the excess debris. I talked to Todd Chamberlain, he is going to go out there and try and remedy that. They do have truck washers, they wash the tires of the trucks, and if there is an excess of debris, then they get, the trucks will actually get fined $25. But, he’s right now working to try to remedy that by cleaning up the outside of that yard. So, for those of you who travel north or south down St. Joe, we hope that that will be remedied here in the next couple of weeks.

President Korb: Great. Anything else?

Commissioner Tornatta: That’s it.

President Korb: Mr. Ziemer, got anything for us? Alrighty.

President Korb: We’ve got consent items. I need an approval, a motion for that please.

Commissioner Tornatta: So moved.

President Korb: Second. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign.

Madelyn Grayson: There’s an additional–

President Korb: The motion passes.

Madelyn Grayson: For the travel requests. It should be on your notes there as an additional consent item.

President Korb: I’m seeing none.

Madelyn Grayson: There were five travel requests for County Council.

President Korb: Okay.

Madelyn Grayson: That needs to be added.

President Korb: Alright. Marissa, you’re looking at me.

Commissioner Tornatta: Okay.

President Korb: We just need to go ahead and add that.

Commissioner Tornatta: Motion to approve travel requests for five of the County Councilmembers.

President Korb: I’ll second that. All those in favor say aye.

Commissioner Tornatta: Aye.

President Korb: Aye. Opposed same sign. The motion passes. Seeing no other department heads here in the room. We’re going to go ahead, I need a motion for adjournment.

Commissioner Tornatta: So moved.

President Korb: Second. (Gavel) This meeting is adjourned.

(The meeting was adjourned at 5:40 p.m.)

CONSENT ITEMS:

Commissioners:

Approval of the May 20, 2008 Commission Meeting Minutes.

County Highway Annual Operational Report: 2007.

Request for Burdette pool passes for World Changers Youth Ministry.

Evansville ARC: May 16, 2008 Meeting Minutes.

Key Government Finance: Pay Req. No. 11: Telephone System.

Settlement Agreement: Mychael Collins.

Department Head Meeting Notes: May 20, 2008.

Employment Changes:

Treasurer (1)                            Circuit Court (2)                        Prosecutor (2)

Weights & Measures (2)           VCCC (3)                                  County Clerk (2)

Health Department (1)              Sheriff Office (1)                       Co-Op Ext. (1)

Burdette Park (3)

Travel Requests:

Health Department (2)              County Assessor (1)                 SWCD (1)

Center Assessor (1)                 County Engineer (2)                 County Council (5)

County Engineer: Pay Request No. 53: Green River-Burkhardt TIF Projects.

County Clerk: Monthly Report: April 2008.

County Treasurer: Monthly Report: April 2008.

Weights & Measures: Monthly Report: May 2008.

Department Head Reports:

Burdette Park                           County Engineer                       County Highway

Ozone Officer

Those in Attendance:

Jeff Korb                                   Troy Tornatta                            Bill Fluty

Ted C. Ziemer, Jr.          Marissa Nichoalds                    Madelyn Grayson

Mike Duckworth                        Roger Lehman                          John Stoll

Joe DeVoy                                Olivia DeVoy                             Others Unidentified

Members of Media

VANDERBURGH COUNTY

BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

Jeff Korb, President

Troy Tornatta, Member

(Recorded and transcribed by Madelyn Grayson.)